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Posted: 3/28/2009 9:10:52 AM EDT

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History teacher, insurance salesman, professional political hack.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/John_Larson.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Larson <<< He married one of his students!

Larson married Leslie Best, one of his former students from his high school teaching days at George J. Penney High School.

http://www.larsonforcongress.org/

http://uconnmagazine.uconn.edu/fwin2006/images/larson_fuelcell.jpg

http://www.the40yearplan.com/img/022608_Larson.jpg

Aha!!!! I knew it!!!! Blue-eyed white devil!!!!!!

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:12:28 AM EDT

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Democrats are really a piece of work.

Especially the CT variety. First Dodd now this Moon Bat.

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:18:22 AM EDT

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First of all, since when is CO2 a pollutant?

Since Obama took over.

E.P.A. Expected to Regulate Carbon Dioxide

Published: February 18, 2009

WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency is expected to act for the first time to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that scientists blame for the warming of the planet, according to top Obama administration officials.
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The environmental agency is under order from the Supreme Court to make a determination whether carbon dioxide is a pollutant that endangers public health and welfare, an order that the Bush administration essentially ignored despite near-unanimous belief among agency experts that research points inexorably to such a finding.
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Posted: 3/28/2009 9:32:09 AM EDT

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First of all, since when is CO2 a pollutant?

Since Obama took over.

E.P.A. Expected to Regulate Carbon Dioxide

Published: February 18, 2009

WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency is expected to act for the first time to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that scientists blame for the warming of the planet, according to top Obama administration officials.
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The environmental agency is under order from the Supreme Court to make a determination whether carbon dioxide is a pollutant that endangers public health and welfare, an order that the Bush administration essentially ignored despite near-unanimous belief among agency experts that research points inexorably to such a finding.
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They are going to turn our very own breath into a taxable item. It can be done under this administration. Don't breath too much or you'll pollute and have to pay a tax just to be alive.

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:49:15 AM EDT

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Next stop nationalization of utilities industry through public furor over cost of energy?

This.
Even though he is on record during his campaign saying "Under my plan, the cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."
He will rely on the uninformed, and this will be exactly what happens.

google the quote, it is not a dupe

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:53:55 AM EDT

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They're getting pretty damn cocky, in my considered opinion.

Yep. I like these assholes that want to cram this crap down my throat and at the same time decide that the Aptera doesn't meet the standards for their stimulus package.

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:55:33 AM EDT

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fuck this shit.

capitol hill really ought to be tried and convicted for treason, and then drug into the street and publicly executed.

I like piano wire and ice blocks for this, personally.

Posted: 3/28/2009 9:58:26 AM EDT

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The other day during one of his press conferences Obama stated that he was in favor of backing an attempt to pass legislation for the purpose of installing devices in each home to regulate the use of electricity. You will have your energy uses rationed by government. Electricians from utilities companies may be made responsible for installing the devices at no cost to you-isn't that nice.

That isn't what that item does. It may allow the utility to control some items in your house, but that is to level the load. The end result of a smart meter is 6% reduced consumption and 27% reduced peaking. Which means cheper power in a lot of ways.

It allows less power to be consumed and flattens out peaks which are the most expensive sources of power, like natural gas, and it integrates wind and solar more effectively.

Italy already switched over, and others are working on it.

sounds good but sounds expensive how long do you think it will take to realize any substantial savings ? how long for the payoff ?

And how long will it be before having the wrong political sign in your yard means 18-hour rolling blackouts?

Posted: 3/28/2009 10:14:27 AM EDT

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Just wait and see what happens to milk prices if cap and trade goes into effect. Can you say $10 a gallon. Five dollars or more for a loaf of bread. These democrats need to be thrown out of congress on their back sides. The 2010 elections are just around the corner. That is our chance to remake the US House and the US Senate as all members of the House are up for re election and 1/3 of the Senate is up for re election. If we fail in 2010 kiss your guns goodbye..

Add to that $7 a gallon gas, $1,500-$2,000 a month electric bills for the typical suburban house, MASSIVE job losses, people dying of heat stroke during the summer and freezing to death during the winter due to unaffordable power and all around discontent as the typical way of life is set on it's ear.

THIS might be what gets the sheeple fired up. We always like to joke that a revolution will not happen until American Idol is interrupted. Well, when the typical homeowner can't afford to turn on the tv because it costs $1 a minute to power it, it may be pitchforks and torches time..

Posted: 3/28/2009 10:26:40 AM EDT

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I'm compelled to tell the congressman to go fuck himself.

Posted: 3/28/2009 11:28:35 AM EDT

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I'd like to hear from the good people of West Virginia, and folks who live in parts of Pennsylvania and Illinois, don't they have Dumb-o-crats for reps? I think some people are going to get "sold up the river" and not even realize it. This is what has my wife and I scared to death, we live in Michigan, heat with oil (the heating bill has already doubled) I deliver marine supplies to marinas etc. so it's a given that pleasure boating will die as well as my job, yeah! we've got a "glorious" Americka to look forward to!

Posted: 3/28/2009 11:30:09 AM EDT

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Well, they'll certainly force people into alternatives, alright... alternatives to grid-supplied electricity, that is.

Posted: 3/28/2009 11:39:17 AM EDT

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Why did we let the traitors take over?

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:17:33 PM EDT

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Why did we let the traitors take over?

WE didn't. Ask the 52% of ASSFUCKS who voted for that douchebag.

(notice how I used the red and blue colors?

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Posted: 3/28/2009 12:37:45 PM EDT

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I wish them just enough success in turning this into a third world country. Just enough that nature takes its course.

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:45:06 PM EDT

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Depending on who you ask, they cost 100-500 dollars more than a standard meter. Combined with energy savings, fuel savings, cheaper baseload fuel and reduced capital costs for generation and transmission they probably pay for themselves in a few months.

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:45:32 PM EDT

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And, as always, the "non-contributors" in our society will not suffer the cost increases like the rest of us. Granny, Shanequa, and Jose oughta get the price increase too, and when they freeze to death or suffer heat stroke THEN the outcry will be thunderous. If it's just you and me shelling out for it there won't be a peep. Of course keeping it painless for the "non-contributors" keeps them hitting the "D" lever.

Oh, and a fucking BRILLIANT move for an ailing economy......

Shanequa and Jose won't feel it. They'll just get an increase in food stamp benefits and chances are, having their utilities paid, too. It will be your Grannies, trying to survive on SS, eating egg noodles and beans, that will be impacted.

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:48:13 PM EDT

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Does this mean that if, for instance, you would use your kitchen oven at 5:30 pm the device would prevent it from working, or would it cut back the energy supplied to another appliance such as a central air unit?

It would cycle HVAC systems so that yours would run, then your neighbors would run, so that they weren't all working at once. That way they need less generation for peak power and can use cheaper methods. Around here thaat means hydroelectric. Elsewhere it would mean coal... so that part I'm not sure about...

But you would still have an air conditioned house, it would just time it to reduce overall load.

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:51:42 PM EDT

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Next stop nationalization of utilities industry through public furor over cost of energy?

yep

Posted: 3/28/2009 12:54:48 PM EDT

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to me all this makes no sesnse.

what allowable alternatives are there to what currently available? i mean they wont accept nuclear.. that leaves mostly coal for expansion..

so they increase the cost.. which destroys the economy.. raise the taxes all you want, you cant get blood outta a stone. high energy costs fuck everyone, from the rich guy running the manufacturing plant , to the low income worker who cant get a job cause the plant cant afford to pay him cause their energy costs are high, he cant pay his electric bills, his ole momma is freezing to death, and he cant afford gas to get down to the local stop-n-rob to buy 10 buck cigs and a bottle of maddog 20/20..

you think ANYONE will vote for the folks that create tis environment?

i dont...

it just flat doesnt make much sense to me.. mark my words,.. they re cutting their own throat..

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:05:14 PM EDT

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They want to increase efficiency. And large amounts of energy used is wasted in some way, whether it be turned into heat or noise or lost in transmission.

The downside is that buildings last so damn long that even if new buildings were 90% more efficient (and many are) it would take 100 years to get complete market penetration. Meaning that in the mean time there will be plenty of people who suffer until the move into nicer digs.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:07:25 PM EDT

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to me all this makes no sesnse.

That's because you think it is about energy and the environment.

It's not.

It's another facet of marxism.

Just like political correctness is cultural marxism this shit is the result marxist takeover of the environmental movement.

What they are shooting for is massive wealth transfer from the 1st world to the 3rd.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:13:18 PM EDT

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It won't work. The Dems will all be pitchforked by the masses who can't pay their bills.

It would be a completely incompetent move on Ubama's part. So it will probably be attempted. It will fail. The Repubs will be back in power pronto.

Another great Ubama idea like:

Closing GITMO and putting them on our streets
Biggest deficit spending ever
Socialist programs

Ubama and his cronies are completely incompetent and it shows.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:14:12 PM EDT

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Ok he is saying: Americans are stupid and they have to be duped to switch, even alternatives are nil; build the fucking nuclear plants you dipshiets libtards!

Yes. Build them nukes. I have stock in CCJ.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:14:36 PM EDT

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Anymore all this just compells me to buy ammo

Let me know when you find some.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:23:18 PM EDT

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“We ought to do it in a way that both enhances our economy and our economic opportunity and also preserves the universe and the earth,” said Larson.

Now global warming threatens the existence of the entire fucking universe?

Entropy: the heat death of the universe. It is approaching with every minute of every day so we must do ANYTHING NECESSARY to slow it.

Posted: 3/28/2009 1:39:57 PM EDT

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How about we cap & trade politicians?

How about leaving off the "& trade" part and make them all wear caps that say "I am an overpaid Moron".

Posted: 3/28/2009 2:10:16 PM EDT

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Didn't they estimate the additional cost in electricity bills would be $ 3100 a year per household? Madness.

Posted: 3/28/2009 4:02:31 PM EDT

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And, as always, the "non-contributors" in our society will not suffer the cost increases like the rest of us. Granny, Shanequa, and Jose oughta get the price increase too, and when they freeze to death or suffer heat stroke THEN the outcry will be thunderous. If it's just you and me shelling out for it there won't be a peep. Of course keeping it painless for the "non-contributors" keeps them hitting the "D" lever.

Oh, and a fucking BRILLIANT move for an ailing economy......

Shanequa and Jose won't feel it. They'll just get an increase in food stamp benefits and chances are, having their utilities paid, too. It will be your Grannies, trying to survive on SS, eating egg noodles and beans, that will be impacted.

I said Shanequa and Jose SHOULD feel it too, i.e. pay or freeze/roast.

My empathy meter is on zero. I don't fucking care anymore. Even the *least* among us oughta be forced to take a bite out of the shit sandwich too, otherwise it will never matter. Those of us who could pay don't matter (and that is a close one 'cause I'm not sure my monthly budget could handle a 2 or 3 fold increase in electric bills; that would begin to equal my mortgage).

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