Hatebree wrote:

"If my cat kills your chicken come ask me for some bucks to pay for your chicken that you planned on killing anyway, but DO NOT shoot my pet or you may find yourself in peril of your well being. "

Good point, although it doesn't address ferel animals.  I agree.

Anybody who has worked a ranch or farmed knows about pest control..their numbers have to kept in checked..to prevent diesese transference to the rest of their own population..when the state took the bounty off of racoons...they had an epidemic of rabies and dystemper...they infected peoples pets with their bites ..their numbers were epidemic they have to be killed off...the same goes for mice and rats...gophers
woodtics and numerous amounts of animals...Coyotes in my area travel and hunt in packs..they have been known to attack and kill children ..female coyotes in heat move into suburban neighborhoods and lure dogs out into the woods where her pack waits to kill and eat them..coyotes have interbred with domestic dogs to produce coydog hybrids which are even more cunning unafraid of man..when we quit hunting and killing them they lose their fear of us and begin to hunt us...our pets..and our kids
coyotes are not domestic pets or what some money grubbing whorlywood liberal movie maker makes them out to be..my neighbor had coyotes pull calves out their mothers during birthing...tear them to pieces and run off with those pieces...rather expensive when you depend on the raising of  calves to replace your milk cows..the femanisation of america has made a nation of "feeling critters" rather than those with common sense and a will to do what is right and then eat breakfast..and thanking God for that breakfast and the will to do what what is right..killing pests is just one of those distastfull jobs like cleaning the barn..so if you can make work fun..why not?
but to go over board with the glory of killing animals for the sake of killing is wrong
Critters belong to the Almighty that made them and a man should honor God and when possible take care of animals when they have to be killed so be it..if not so be that

What the hell is with the people saying "if you touch my cat I'll shoot your ass" You guys are the ones with real issues Anyone who would kill a human being because their stupid cat was killed is in need of serious help. If you are that unstable you probably don't deserve to have guns. Wait up Bill, I'm starting to think about leaving with you.

As I've said before, I've been here a while.  In all that time, I have learned some things about people.  You called me a fake libertarian.  How dare I?

Yet here on this board, some on this very topic are supposed Libertarians who believe:

1.  Everyone should be forced to serve time in the military

2.  Liberals should be shot for expressing their views

3.  The government should tell rape victims less than two months pregnant that they have to wait for the clump of cells in their bodies to turn into babies, then carry those babies to term

4.  Police checkpoints are just dandy

5.  Driving is a priveledge granted by the state

6.  The government should be able to toss us in jail for choosing to use drugs or for selling them to consenting adults

7.  The government should tell people that they cannot have sex with each other for money

These are just the beginning.  I bet everyone who has labelled me an elitist commie agrees with at least one of the 7.

There are not very many true libertarians out there.  Most people just want to protect their way of life without giving a damn about anyone else's.

The truth is, give the power to write law and a fresh pen to most people here and a lot of our lives would indeed be very miserable.

Gun owners are against gun control, boaters are against anti-boating legislation, fishermen are against jet skiers, nature lovers are against varmint shooters, varmint shooters are against nature lovers, motorcyclists are against helmet laws, paramedics are against motorcyclists, the list goes on and on and on.

What is all boils down to is that most people are looking after their own asses.  

I strongly believe in personal freedom, but with personal freedom must come some level of responsibility.

If ranchers in one part of the country decided to eradicate all prarie dogs, do they have the right to take a part of nature, a part of some people's heritage, away from the entire world?

There are some serious lines that have to be drawn.  The hard questions are where and how.

I don't have the answers, but at least I know to ask the questions.  That, to me, is a pretty good start.

Bill Wallace

That is utter nonsense. Go back and reread Bill's [b]FIRST[/b] response to the thread. In fact, here, I repost it for you. You tell me who drew first blood:



PS Bill, it sounds as if you DO have your answer. Everyone who differs from your opinion on this issue should be shot in the head. Read your own words. It's starting to sound like you have a lot in common with Stalin.

What you've just shown is that I too can get angry and post without thinking.

I am not ashamed of it.  Read oubeta's post and those that follow it, and you may understand why I was angered to such an extent.

There was, later on in the topic, an apology, followed by more bashing of cat killing assholes.

Bill Wallace

Hey Willy.

Weren't you planning on LEAVING?

"clump of cells", my A$$.

Well darn, now I am not so sure:), I think I will keep blowing up PDs. Cats, well I kind of like cats but if your cat kills my chicken you better be damn good with that AR, cause it gets buried in the back yard, and I really don't care much how you feel about it. We Really don't want to get into abortion, I think, it is murder pure and simple. I have never been bothered buy killing, I grew up in a very rural setting and killing feral animals was a chore I had to preform. I have two dogs and they are very well trained and contained, however if one of them got into another yard and killed a pet of anyones I would shoot it myself.

Rew

WAKE UP!  Most of us are responsible pet owners, and I for sure am.  Anyone who Indiscriminately shoots an animal that looks domesticated should have to answer to the owner, unless the animal was causing harm to property (thats a different story).  

People who are blatantly cruel to animals are the ones myself and others are talking about.

Use your head.  

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Bill, I started to feel sorry for ya.  You said you wanted to move on, let it lie, go on with a new topic.  Great! Lets move on, we dissagree, no problem!  Then, You go and post more on this topic.  What gives?  If you are tired of people flaming you, let it alone.  No one really wants to drive away AR-15 enthusiasts.  So leave it alone.  Unless you are here to troll?  
guns762

The BS topid that started the do-do fest wasn't called "Great Coyote Kills" or "Great feral vermin with rabies kills".  

It was "Great Cat Kills", clearly intented to provoke A) folks with cats and B) folks who don't think any animal should be killed so some sick fuck can get his jollies.  

Apparently, there are a lot of sick fucks on this board.

I just wonder why none of the sick fucks posted they they wish they could have killed that dog with the sledge hammer.

Darn now I'm a sick fuck, well don't that just suck. Well I kind of like me and plane on teaching the daughter to never touch a PD, and please use the shevel to put that cat in the hole.

Rew

Or maybe people say they are leaving because they are really fed up with the quality of people here, but then some decent folks come out and say "hey, don't leave, you're not alone here, we may not agree on all things but don't let the idiots get you down".  And then maybe these people change their minds.  Or at least stick around a little longer to say "see ya in a while" properly.  

i cant belive all this BS, but i must say Frank the spank RULES!!!!!!   [uzi]

I havent read any other peoples posts, so this has probably already been said.


You're a hypocrit, ROSIE!

Hey Mods:

Will someone please edit FranktheSpank's post?  Those pictures are abit much to come upon without warning.  If Frank wants a link to his porno pictures, that's fine but we should have the ability to refuse to look at it.  (Of course, what ever Frank wants to do in the privacy of his bedroom between consenting adults (or dummies) is fine.)

Thank you very much.

Come back, Bill.
You never are going to agree wtih everyone. The cat and dog killers are a small percentage of us, and half of those are lying.
For example, I am a proud union Democrat, but after Bill & Al let more of our jobs go overseas with NAFTA than the worse Republican, I had to join up with Nader.
I still am a member of the Democratic party, I just won't vote for Bill or Al anymore.