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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:49:17 PM EDT
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Inverter fail. One battery with an internal short would bring down the entire. Yeah I didnt see any fuses in that hookup.. plus no mention of how big that inverter is. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:49:54 PM EDT
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are all of those batteries sitting directly on concrete? idiots.... Do tell. Discharging when placed on concrete USED to be an issue, no longer with polypropylene battery housings. Still, its an old lesson passed down from fathers that's hard to put to rest. My Dad taught me the same thing many a time.. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:50:05 PM EDT
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Inverter fail. One battery with an internal short would bring down the entire. What would be the best way to link them? (electrical noob) |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:50:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: did he just say 144 gallons a day per american? A bit much but considering industrial, horticultural and other irrigation with the domestic use, yeah, that is a fact. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:50:43 PM EDT
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did he just say 144 gallons a day per american? yeah that figure seemed pretty high to me too. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:51:07 PM EDT
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Is there a stream on the net?
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:51:58 PM EDT
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are all of those batteries sitting directly on concrete? idiots.... Do tell. Discharging when placed on concrete USED to be an issue, no longer with polypropylene battery housings. Still, its an old lesson passed down from fathers that's hard to put to rest. My Dad taught me the same thing many a time.. those batteries look old to me. I know that up to year 2005 definitively that discharging was an issue in car batteries. This from first hand experience working on a car lot. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:53:02 PM EDT
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Is there a stream on the net? Yep Click on the ESPN icon. You'll have to scroll down the page some. I'm watching it as I type this. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:54:51 PM EDT
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"I ahhhhhI I gotta help tha boys. Cofffee breaks over..." Michael quote
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:55:08 PM EDT
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ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:56:14 PM EDT
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Blond chick is kinda hot. Good breeding stock for re-population  I would prefer the marine biologist. Hotter in the sack. Plus ER nurses get that bubble butt by age 30 which means you would only have 2 years of fun. I don't mind a little bubble butt. I see it as being more durable and able to take a hit 
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:56:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: According to size. And capacity. They only had the voltmeter on the unit to measure each one. Full charge in a flooded cell is about 12.9-13 volts. Flat discharged is 12.0. These are no-load, stabilized voltage measured with the cells resting for 4 hours. The charge is based on the density of the electrolyte since discharge at both the cathode and anode absorbs the sulfate. PbSO4 batteries use plates of lead and lead oxide.Quoted: Inverter fail. One battery with an internal short would bring down the entire. What would be the best way to link them? (electrical noob) You need to think about a cascade system, otherwise you will be in a hurt when all go down. They need to look into getting an alternator driven by wind. Most have built in regulation. It needs to spin at 4000 RPM, meaning gearing. Figure on a 10:1 with 10 foot diameter blades, if you can find an old water pumping windmill. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:57:34 PM EDT
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At least the wimmenz know their place and are doing laundry.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:57:43 PM EDT
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did he just say 144 gallons a day per american in water consumption? we r pigs...  I think that stat is bullshit. Activity Water used Shower 15-30 gallons (57-114 liters) Brushing teeth (water running) 1-2 gallons (3.75-7.51 liters) Shaving (water running) 10-15 gallons (38-57 liters) Washing dishes by hand 20 gallons (75 liters) Washing dishes in dishwasher 9-12 gallons (34-45 liters) Flushing toilet 5-7 gallons (19-26 liters) No one does all that every day. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:58:11 PM EDT
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Go time is go time is go time is go time is go time is go time is go time.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:59:12 PM EDT
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Thanks Keith_J.....heading over to google now....
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Posted: 7/21/2009 6:59:20 PM EDT
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Blonde: "It might be the end of the world as we know it..."
And there it is.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:00:04 PM EDT
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wimmins doing laundry....= win...
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:00:08 PM EDT
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DUDE: I WOULD BE KING OF A GRAVEYARD.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:00:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks Keith_J.....heading over to google now.... Why? Just ask. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:01:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: wimmins doing laundry....= win... How did that happen? Them are MARRYING type of wimmens. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:01:36 PM EDT
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looks like i saw a flamethrower in that little montage. I am intrigued.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:02:01 PM EDT
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are all of those batteries sitting directly on concrete? idiots.... Do tell. Discharging when placed on concrete USED to be an issue, no longer with polypropylene battery housings. Still, its an old lesson passed down from fathers that's hard to put to rest. My Dad taught me the same thing many a time.. those batteries look old to me. I know that up to year 2005 definitively that discharging was an issue in car batteries. This from first hand experience working on a car lot. All batteries discharge over time, more so if greasy/dirty. From http://www.trojan-battery.com/Tech-Support/FAQ.aspx Battery Myth: Storing a battery on concrete will discharge it quicker- Long ago, when battery cases were made out of natural rubber, this was true. Now, however, battery cases are made of polypropylene or other modern materials that allow a battery to be stored anywhere. A battery's rate of discharge is affected by its construction, its age, and the ambient temperature. The main issue with storing on concrete is that if the battery leaks, the concrete will be damaged. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:02:04 PM EDT
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Is there a stream on the net? Yep Click on the ESPN icon. You'll have to scroll down the page some. I'm watching it as I type this. Stream is no more, it got switched back to ESPN |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:02:13 PM EDT
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wimmins doing laundry....= win... After watching the first episode, its pretty obvious who that fat bitch voted for. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:03:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: This Michael guy needs to get voted out of the warehouse NOW. What a douche bag. I guess I would be on the street then too...he's a realist. Everyone else is turning this into the Warehouse Hilton and he's thinking of priority #1...F the rest of the herd. M |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:04:40 PM EDT
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did he just say 144 gallons a day per american in water consumption? we r pigs... I think that stat is bullshit. Activity Water used Shower 15-30 gallons (57-114 liters) Brushing teeth (water running) 1-2 gallons (3.75-7.51 liters) Shaving (water running) 10-15 gallons (38-57 liters) Washing dishes by hand 20 gallons (75 liters) Washing dishes in dishwasher 9-12 gallons (34-45 liters) Flushing toilet 5-7 gallons (19-26 liters) No one does all that every day. Add in the amount of water used in growing your food. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:06:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This Michael guy needs to get voted out of the warehouse NOW. What a douche bag. I guess I would be on the street then too...he's a realist. Everyone else is turning this into the Warehouse Hilton and he's thinking of priority #1...F the rest of the herd. M No, he's a fucking drama queen. Guy might have some useful skills, but he doesn't know dick about small group leadership. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:08:47 PM EDT
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They need to trade for a fat man and some mini nukes pronto!
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:09:03 PM EDT
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i like it..
normal folk dont hang out in the SF here. normal folk are nice,, they dont know any better ., reality will come when shit is stolen and thier wimminez are rapped, if it started out with them making pipe bombs i would call BS ,. i like it so far ,, |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:11:24 PM EDT
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This Michael guy needs to get voted out of the warehouse NOW. What a douche bag. I guess I would be on the street then too...he's a realist. Everyone else is turning this into the Warehouse Hilton and he's thinking of priority #1...F the rest of the herd. M No, he's a fucking drama queen. Guy might have some useful skills, but he doesn't know dick about small group leadership. thats the point isnt it? random non prepared people. i wanna see them develop. at the end they will not be the same people anymore. for MANY this would be thier first taste of the real world and the uglyness they hide from every normal day edit.. i know its only 10 weeks,, but i bet someone ends up pregnant 
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:17:50 PM EDT
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They're making tons of mistakes and I like Mike. He's got the wolf mentality. He's not talking about being "rude," like that has any relevance when your life is in danger. He and the small guy understand you don't give strangers your food out of your kindness, you let them find their own food or starve.
The guy who went to jail is obviously an actor and I'd imagine will steal something and run or get kicked out soon enough. They don't interview some of the people, maybe for a reason. They're plants. If anything, this show should be an insight on how stupid people will act during the SHTF, and how to stay away from that. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:26:43 PM EDT
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was i just me or did i se some old DOT type trailer signs with solar panels??
if so they already have the beginings of an electrical supply - now to find the wire for some fencing and voltage across certian doors ( BROOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - go ahead hit this with a metal pipe i dare you. BROOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:27:48 PM EDT
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ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol That was fake as shit. The producers totally built that BS PVC pipe. How convenient! So far I'm kinda meh on the whole thing...they sure are going through the days fast. I'd like more minutia. Oh, and I'm glad I got my guns.
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:34:45 PM EDT
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It reminded me of that old british show 'scrapheap' (aka 'junkyard wars' in the US), where they would have teams go out and find things in a 'junkyard' to make projects...
They nearly always seemed to luck out and find what they needed to make their projects...Need 30 yards of mylar to make the project, look in the trunk of that old jaguar... |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:53:40 PM EDT
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Ditto on the GTFO of the city pronto. Especially around LA, you'll be overrun by gangs by day two. Same with no guns. And I think there's at least one "mole" in the colony just to stir the shit for drama. But we'll see how it goes. Could be good at least for making good GD discussions here.  |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 7:58:13 PM EDT
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ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol That was fake as shit. The producers totally built that BS PVC pipe. How convenient! So far I'm kinda meh on the whole thing...they sure are going through the days fast. I'd like more minutia. Oh, and I'm glad I got my guns. bingo. that was so obviously put in recently, what a joke. oh, well |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 8:46:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol That was fake as shit. The producers totally built that BS PVC pipe. How convenient! So far I'm kinda meh on the whole thing...they sure are going through the days fast. I'd like more minutia. Oh, and I'm glad I got my guns. Looked like ABS to me. Yes, it is used for DVW and could be used for storm drains. I didn't see how the roof was laid out. Looked to be some nasty water but isn't this LA? |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:04:38 PM EDT
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ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol That was fake as shit. The producers totally built that BS PVC pipe. How convenient! So far I'm kinda meh on the whole thing...they sure are going through the days fast. I'd like more minutia. Oh, and I'm glad I got my guns. Looked like ABS to me. Yes, it is used for DVW and could be used for storm drains. I didn't see how the roof was laid out. Looked to be some nasty water but isn't this LA? Damn you and your cornucopia of knowledge! You know what I meant. 
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:18:01 PM EDT
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Their water filtration system sucked donkey balls. Why? It allowed the filter to completely drain. That won't do much in filtering. You need to keep a constant depth over the filter beds, otherwise velocity profile isn't consistent.
This is best done with a broken loop higher than the desired water level. Also, the charcoal they used? Worthless. Activated carbon isn't hard to make, especially for water purification. It can be done in an auto-retort. Just shovel glowing coals into a steel drum, then cap it off and wait for it to cool. Wash with water to remove ash and voila, great purification charcoal. I missed the first 30 minutes...viewing it on the encore. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:19:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ok so they found the rain water drain.. great.. NOW it has to rain.. lol That was fake as shit. The producers totally built that BS PVC pipe. How convenient! So far I'm kinda meh on the whole thing...they sure are going through the days fast. I'd like more minutia. Oh, and I'm glad I got my guns. Looked like ABS to me. Yes, it is used for DVW and could be used for storm drains. I didn't see how the roof was laid out. Looked to be some nasty water but isn't this LA? Damn you and your cornucopia of knowledge! You know what I meant. Factory roof had that "sawtooth" profile with vertical windows for maximum sun light collection. That would need such a roof drain. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:30:15 PM EDT
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Does Mike kind of look like Sarg? I wonder if he likes action figures too. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 9:56:51 PM EDT
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Their water filtration system sucked donkey balls. Why? It allowed the filter to completely drain. That won't do much in filtering. You need to keep a constant depth over the filter beds, otherwise velocity profile isn't consistent. This is best done with a broken loop higher than the desired water level. Also, the charcoal they used? Worthless. Activated carbon isn't hard to make, especially for water purification. It can be done in an auto-retort. Just shovel glowing coals into a steel drum, then cap it off and wait for it to cool. Wash with water to remove ash and voila, great purification charcoal. I missed the first 30 minutes...viewing it on the encore. That little tidbit is good to know, thanks. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 10:40:46 PM EDT
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Like others have mentioned, the show pretty much loses all credibility as a SHTF scenario due to the lack of firearms. Some random weapons loaded with Simmunition would have been cool.
I don't like the machinist or the handyman. The contractor said he did 6 years for trafficking, but didn't say what he was trafficking. Drugs? Exotic birds? People? Either way, surviving in prison for six years is no easy task, and I bet his survival instincts are the sharpest of the group. I set a season pass and will continue to watch. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 10:51:21 PM EDT
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They need to look into getting an alternator driven by wind. Most have built in regulation. It needs to spin at 4000 RPM, meaning gearing. Figure on a 10:1 with 10 foot diameter blades, if you can find an old water pumping windmill. Next episode, I think. Except they use a car alternator initially driven by an auto engine using gasoline, but they then devise a wood gas generator to run it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2009 10:53:11 PM EDT
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Typical reality show.
It isn't based on anything real. The water filtration was a grand idea. Too bad in a real situation sand and charcoal won't be readily handy on your site unless you put it there like the film crew did. Waste of an hour of your life every week from what I saw. |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 12:09:41 AM EDT
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did he just say 144 gallons a day per american in water consumption? we r pigs... I think that stat is bullshit. Activity Water used Shower 15-30 gallons (57-114 liters) Brushing teeth (water running) 1-2 gallons (3.75-7.51 liters) Shaving (water running) 10-15 gallons (38-57 liters) Washing dishes by hand 20 gallons (75 liters) Washing dishes in dishwasher 9-12 gallons (34-45 liters) Flushing toilet 5-7 gallons (19-26 liters) No one does all that every day. I think the number included industrial use, irrigation, livestock, etc. |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 12:20:06 AM EDT
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Typical reality show. It isn't based on anything real. The water filtration was a grand idea. Too bad in a real situation sand and charcoal won't be readily handy on your site unless you put it there like the film crew did. Waste of an hour of your life every week from what I saw. I agree. I don't plam on watching anymore. No guns, no weapons except for pipes is idiotic. That fat naked hippy dude is irritating as hell. But I have been trying to get the rest of the family into the idea of preparing for the shtf and this dumb show helps them wrap their brains around it then it is worth it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2009 12:34:59 AM EDT
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Tag
Me and a few close friends with our AR's would take their food, water and women and kill the guys with the pipes.
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Posted: 7/22/2009 4:05:24 AM EDT
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did he just say 144 gallons a day per american in water consumption? we r pigs... I think that stat is bullshit. Activity Water used Shower 15-30 gallons (57-114 liters) Brushing teeth (water running) 1-2 gallons (3.75-7.51 liters) Shaving (water running) 10-15 gallons (38-57 liters) Washing dishes by hand 20 gallons (75 liters) Washing dishes in dishwasher 9-12 gallons (34-45 liters) Flushing toilet 5-7 gallons (19-26 liters) No one does all that every day. I think the number included industrial use, irrigation, livestock, etc. If they are counting water you don't use yourself, I guess it's possible. |
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