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Posted: 3/29/2012 5:30:58 PM EDT

[#1]

Man fuck grenades

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:31:30 PM EDT

[#2]

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I wonder if anybody would fess up if they fumbled a grenade during basic/boot or on deployment.

When I was at Basic, I saw a guy who never should have been allowed near a live grenade (he never successfully threw a practice one) throw a real M67 in to the wall immediately in front of him during the live fire exercise. He bent to pick it up when the SGT who was with him grabbed him, threw him out of the pit and dove for cover himself. No one was hurt, thank God.

Saw this one too, it was a female throwing the grenade. Instructor threw her out of the pit and landed on top of her. She was pissed that she got a few bruised ribs from him landing on top of her.

WTF? I bet the SGT was pissed about having to save her life too.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:31:47 PM EDT

[#3]

Spoon on or off?

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:32:32 PM EDT

[#4]

I want in on this

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:33:06 PM EDT

[#5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-AMa8GfDs

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:33:20 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Need answer fast!!

Pin? Sure. Unless the spoon came off. If the spoon pops off, better throw that fucker or...

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:33:45 PM EDT

[#7]

Even I know you can!

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:34:18 PM EDT

[#8]

Military Grenade Prank, Youtube

ETA: Wow 501st beat me to it by a matter of seconds. It's kinda funny. Not really laugh out loud funny, but it made me smirk.

P.S. I'm still alive. Thank you all.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:36:31 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-AMa8GfDs

http://funny-videos.eu/wp-content/image/img_152305_soldier-drops-fake-grenade-in-humvee-as-a-prank.jpg

I'm really amazed he didn't get the shit kicked out of him for that. Thats... bad.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:38:07 PM EDT

[#10]

Who gives a shit as long as the clip is still on?
Oh, yea, nobody ever mentions the poor, unsung, saftey clip. Fucking pull ring get ALL the god damn spotlight!

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:39:28 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
True story.

I had a ring catch on a hand railing and the loudest sound in the world is that thing landing on concrete. I had had the forethought to position the spoons against my mag pouches. It never moved.

It was pretty tense as the guy re-inserted the pin.

I was an M203 gunner at the time, and had about 10 HEDP in my vest along with the 4 frags. I am pretty sure that not many of them would have sympathetically detonated. Pretty sure.

Wouldn't have mattered to me anyway, except for getting my cherry ass kicked in St. Peter's presence.

I'm glad you are back.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:40:53 PM EDT

[#12]

Good grenade pouches have slots for the spoon in them and wrap the frag tight to avoid just that situation!

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:41:44 PM EDT

[#13]

Better off to just throw it away.

Duct tape the spoon and send it to me for proper disposal.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:43:31 PM EDT

[#14]

I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:44:04 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Good grenade pouches have slots for the spoon in them and wrap the frag tight to avoid just that situation!

And keep the pins to the INSIDE.

As for the OP, the pin doesn't make the grenade go off, the pin just keeps the spoon attached. Release the spoon and it's fo time.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:47:45 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
True story.

I had a ring catch on a hand railing and the loudest sound in the world is that thing landing on concrete. I had had the forethought to position the spoons against my mag pouches. It never moved.

It was pretty tense as the guy re-inserted the pin.

I was an M203 gunner at the time, and had about 10 HEDP in my vest along with the 4 frags. I am pretty sure that not many of them would have sympathetically detonated. Pretty sure.

Wouldn't have mattered to me anyway, except for getting my cherry ass kicked in St. Peter's presence.

I'm glad you are back.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:49:03 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I dont know can you

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/images/striker-right.jpg

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:49:24 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:50:22 PM EDT

[#19]

I think they did just that on an episode of Dragnet once.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:51:53 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

Wonder if you could just load your own? It would appear you could. I should write a letter to the ATF and see what they say.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:54:55 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

Fuses are controlled as the could be used as an IED. The bodies? Only by idiots since they look like grenades and fools think they were grenades, only "drilled out".

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:56:59 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

99% of training grenades I used where just that! We'd get 5 training fuses for the practice range, then run shit tons of MOUT tossing around fuseless trainers!

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:57:45 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

Wonder if you could just load your own? It would appear you could. I should write a letter to the ATF and see what they say.

You could, if you wanted. The primers are a bit different, less bang and more flame. The fuse train is smokeless, you could substitute green visco fuse. Then you would have to make your own closed end tube for the report.

The problem is finding the fuse body with spoon.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:59:22 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

99% of training grenades I used where just that! We'd get 5 training fuses for the practice range, then run shit tons of MOUT tossing around fuseless trainers!

Yeah, I really don't see the point in the sim fuses. All you really need are some pins to pull out and then throw the damn thing.

Posted: 3/29/2012 5:59:43 PM EDT

[#25]

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Yep

What if you let the handle or what ever it is called go?

Its called a SPOON!!! NO if the spoon goes, you go BOOOMMM!!!

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:05:48 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Who gives a shit as long as the clip is still on?

Oh, yea, nobody ever mentions the poor, unsung, saftey clip. Fucking pull ring get ALL the god damn spotlight!

That safety clip is a joke. It pops off if you look at it wrong.

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:07:16 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

99% of training grenades I used where just that! We'd get 5 training fuses for the practice range, then run shit tons of MOUT tossing around fuseless trainers!

Yeah, I really don't see the point in the sim fuses. All you really need are some pins to pull out and then throw the damn thing.

Eh, the pop would be fun. Unless I hit the mega millions I'll never have a case of grenades, legal trainers would be as close as I could get.

Sort of like having a 9mm LAW trainer, that would be fun. Or a mortar that shot dummy rounds. Or an RPG that shot dummy rounds.

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:07:32 PM EDT

[#28]

fukd that up

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:08:11 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
True story.

I had a ring catch on a hand railing and the loudest sound in the world is that thing landing on concrete. I had had the forethought to position the spoons against my mag pouches. It never moved.

It was pretty tense as the guy re-inserted the pin.

I was an M203 gunner at the time, and had about 10 HEDP in my vest along with the 4 frags. I am pretty sure that not many of them would have sympathetically detonated. Pretty sure.

Wouldn't have mattered to me anyway, except for getting my cherry ass kicked in St. Peter's presence.

I'm glad you are back.

Should Lo&Lbi

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:17:09 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
Best prank ever:

Friend of mine walks up to his squad leader in Afghanistan holding a grenade in one hand and a pin from a previously used smoke grenade in the other.

He says, "Segeant, how do you put this back in?"

Sergeant gives him the most serious look and says, "Very carefully you need to walk to the hescos and throw it over."

Friend says ok, turns around, drops grenade and screams "OH SHIT!"

He was not amused.

I'd be laughing my ass off if he did that to me. I'd be crying from laughing so hard. He'd be spending the rest of his tour on latrine shit removal. Possibly using a soup spoon to remove it. My gut would be sore from laughing so hard though.

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:18:41 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yep

What if you let the handle or what ever it is called go?

It's the spoon and if he has let go of that and didn't heave it, he wouldn't be posting.

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:19:59 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yep

What if you let the handle or what ever it is called go?

Put down beer, run.

Posted: 3/29/2012 6:20:26 PM EDT

[#33]

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Quoted:
There should be a post count limit that you have to reach before you can rock the BFL on your ride.

He has a gold star, you have bronze.

Bang! That just happened!

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:05:12 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who gives a shit as long as the clip is still on?

Oh, yea, nobody ever mentions the poor, unsung, saftey clip. Fucking pull ring get ALL the god damn spotlight!

That safety clip is a joke. It pops off if you look at it wrong.

Was on the frag range when we had a "dud".

Range shut down.

EOD comes out. Looks at it with binos. Walks out and picks up frag, replaces pin. Walks back.

Safety clip wasn't removed before Joe tossed it.

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:10:12 PM EDT

[#35]

NO, RUN!!!!!!!!

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:11:18 PM EDT

[#36]

Is OP still here, or did he learn a hard and unforgiving lesson?

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:36:21 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who gives a shit as long as the clip is still on?

Oh, yea, nobody ever mentions the poor, unsung, saftey clip. Fucking pull ring get ALL the god damn spotlight!

That safety clip is a joke. It pops off if you look at it wrong.

Was on the frag range when we had a "dud".

Range shut down.

EOD comes out. Looks at it with binos. Walks out and picks up frag, replaces pin. Walks back.

Safety clip wasn't removed before Joe tossed it.

Talk about big balls!!!

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:39:07 PM EDT

[#38]

Clip!
Chest,pull pin!
Throw grenade!
Hell, I think the biggest Army urban legend is the one where "just last week ,at the grenade range", private pyle, tucks the frag into the Sgts vest, and the Sgt gives him a bear hug.

Posted: 3/29/2012 9:20:23 PM EDT

[#39]

I see a lot of misconceptions here, so here's the skinny...

A grenade has TWO safeties. The pull pin is well known by most peolpe. But there's also a thumb safety that wraps around the back of the spoon.

Both safeties can be removed with one hand. The first finger pulls the pin, and the thumb pops the thumb safety off. If the pin is pulled while the thumb safety is on, nothing happens. If the thumb safety is removed while the pin stays in place nothing happens.

When both safeties are removed, the grenade is armed. If you throw it, it will go BOOM. At this point, only the "spoon" is keeping the grenade from detonating. If the safeties are put back in, the grenade will be safe once again (well, as safe as grenades ever really get). This is totally okay, and it does happen in combat situations.

The spoon is the last thing that keeps the greande from arming itself. It basically holds a small hammer in place, much like the hammer on a gun. When the spoon is released, the hammer swings around, pops the primer (just like the primer on a cartidge), and ignites the fuse. The spoon does not have to come completely off the grenade, and it is possible to allow the spoon to relax enough that the hammer ignites the grenade, and then squeeze the spoon back down again. The grenade WILL blow up at this point, even though the spoon has been pressed down again.

So when you're handling a grenade, make damned sure you hold that spoon down in a death grip. If you ever let the spoon pop up enough for the hammer to release, throw that sucker downrang ASAP.

BTW...

Somebody mentioned that the safeties can sometimes be released accidentally. The pins can catch on things, and the thumb safeties can pop off. The solution is to carry spares. Whenever I went to the grenade range, I kept a few pins and a few clips just in case. In a pinch, a big safety pin can also replace the pin.

And if you think grenades are fun, you should try a claymore. It'll rock your world.

Posted: 3/29/2012 9:44:21 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Yep

What if you let the handle or what ever it is called go?

Its called a SPOON!!! NO if the spoon goes, you go BOOOMMM!!!

Posted: 3/29/2012 9:54:05 PM EDT

[#41]

Depends on what kind of grenade.

M67, yes.

Posted: 3/29/2012 10:28:42 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would love to have some hand grenades and a range to use them on. Even the M69 trainers would be fun.

Are the trainers DD's?

I don't see how they would be, but getting the training fuses would probably not be any easy task. They are basically one time use unless you just want to throw around grenade shaped metal ball.

Wonder if you could just load your own? It would appear you could. I should write a letter to the ATF and see what they say.

Pretty certain the ATF considers any modification to grenades that are intended to make them "active" is bad juju. I would assume they would frown on "reloading" trainer fuses.

Posted: 3/29/2012 10:31:24 PM EDT

[#43]

Is this related to your thread asking about how to tell your woman that she's fat?

Posted: 3/29/2012 10:36:13 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

True story.

I had a ring catch on a hand railing and the loudest sound in the world is that thing landing on concrete. I had had the forethought to position the spoons against my mag pouches. It never moved.

It was pretty tense as the guy re-inserted the pin.

I was an M203 gunner at the time, and had about 10 HEDP in my vest along with the 4 frags. I am pretty sure that not many of them would have sympathetically detonated. Pretty sure.

Wouldn't have mattered to me anyway, except for getting my cherry ass kicked in St. Peter's presence.

Holy. Shit. My pants would've needed to be changed.