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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:25:35 PM EDT
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. In this context it really has no significant impact on the environment. Wildlife and people are not harmed due to lead from hunting. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:26:19 PM EDT
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Suppressors are legal in MN on July 1. It's a step! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Awesome, now you get to pay to ask permission to use them! |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:27:47 PM EDT
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. If that was the true goal, they would be banning lead fishing gear too. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lead bullets do not break down and the hype about this has been proven to be wrong over and over. Get away from the koolaid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Lead bullets do not break down and the hype about this has been proven to be wrong over and over. Get away from the koolaid. Why don't you swallow some lead pellets and show the egg head scientists how much they don't know? There was a thread years ago from an ARFcom member talking about how doctors found elevated levels of lead in his blood. Once he wore gloves it went down a lot. The fact is, lead gets into your and my food supply. Endangering YOUR health as welol as everyone else's. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:35:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1435544096n4v03mhfwfy Starting July 1, 2015, nonlead ammunition will be required when hunting on all California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) lands and for all Nelson bighorn sheep hunts anywhere in the state. Further phase-out of lead ammunition for hunting in California will continue on July 1, 2016, when nonlead ammunition will be required when hunting with shotguns for upland game birds (except for dove, quail and snipe), small game mammals, fur-bearing mammals and nongame birds except for when hunting at licensed game bird clubs. Nonlead ammunition will also be required when taking wildlife with shotguns for depredation purposes anywhere in the state. Starting July 1, 2019, hunters must use nonlead ammunition when taking any animal anywhere in the state for any purpose. Oh, for the love of pete....  [tool] "Learn to swim. I'll see you down in Arizona Bay." [/tool]  I realize there are good people in California but it's also filled with idiotic political leaders who are so out of touch with reality that it's embarrassing. Really, California. Really.  |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:37:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't you swallow some lead pellets and show the egg head scientists how much they don't know? There was a thread years ago from an ARFcom member talking about how doctors found elevated levels of lead in his blood. Once he wore gloves it went down a lot. The fact is, lead gets into your and my food supply. Endangering YOUR health as welol as everyone else's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Lead bullets do not break down and the hype about this has been proven to be wrong over and over. Get away from the koolaid. Why don't you swallow some lead pellets and show the egg head scientists how much they don't know? There was a thread years ago from an ARFcom member talking about how doctors found elevated levels of lead in his blood. Once he wore gloves it went down a lot. The fact is, lead gets into your and my food supply. Endangering YOUR health as welol as everyone else's. Bull shit. Do you even hunt? Do you know how few shots are fired hunting? How about fishing. Far more lead is lost while fishing than have ever been fired while hunting. Lead from hunting does not get into the food supply. this has been proven over and over. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:39:44 PM EDT
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I was in San Jose last week for business. I found it highly amusing all of the "This product contains elements known to cause cancer in the state of California." signs in random places. Like the elevator at the airport garage for the rental cars.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:41:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bull shit. Do you even hunt? Do you know how few shots are fired hunting? How about fishing. Far more lead is lost while fishing than have ever been fired while hunting. Lead from hunting does not get into the food supply. this has been proven over and over. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Lead bullets do not break down and the hype about this has been proven to be wrong over and over. Get away from the koolaid. Why don't you swallow some lead pellets and show the egg head scientists how much they don't know? There was a thread years ago from an ARFcom member talking about how doctors found elevated levels of lead in his blood. Once he wore gloves it went down a lot. The fact is, lead gets into your and my food supply. Endangering YOUR health as welol as everyone else's. Bull shit. Do you even hunt? Do you know how few shots are fired hunting? How about fishing. Far more lead is lost while fishing than have ever been fired while hunting. Lead from hunting does not get into the food supply. this has been proven over and over. Not bullshit. Produce one peer review study that says lead is harmless in woodland areas I can post a ton of these. I doubt you can post many at all favoring lead for hunting. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:41:39 PM EDT
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And i see some of the gomers from CA are buying this line of shit.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not bullshit. Produce one peer review study that says lead is harmless in woodland areas I can post a ton of these. I doubt you can post many at all favoring lead for hunting. http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/campaigns/wildlife_abuse/toxic-lead-ammunition-poisoning-wildlife.html Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Lead bullets do not break down and the hype about this has been proven to be wrong over and over. Get away from the koolaid. Why don't you swallow some lead pellets and show the egg head scientists how much they don't know? There was a thread years ago from an ARFcom member talking about how doctors found elevated levels of lead in his blood. Once he wore gloves it went down a lot. The fact is, lead gets into your and my food supply. Endangering YOUR health as welol as everyone else's. Bull shit. Do you even hunt? Do you know how few shots are fired hunting? How about fishing. Far more lead is lost while fishing than have ever been fired while hunting. Lead from hunting does not get into the food supply. this has been proven over and over. Not bullshit. Produce one peer review study that says lead is harmless in woodland areas I can post a ton of these. I doubt you can post many at all favoring lead for hunting. http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/campaigns/wildlife_abuse/toxic-lead-ammunition-poisoning-wildlife.html You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:45:06 PM EDT
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July 1st Georgia gets the cool fireworks.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:47:11 PM EDT
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Do you have any idea how much lead it would take to have any significant effect? One bullet isn't going to do it, 10 isn't going to do it, 100 isn't going to do it, a 1,000 isn't't going to do it, even if you took 10,000 rounds and fired them all into the same place the effect will be virtually zero beyond a few feet of it. Even if you dumped an entire tractor trailer of ammo into the source of the LA River it would have zero effect. Their has never been any scientific evidence of even a single bird being harmed by lead ammunition, hippie windmills on the other hand have killed thousands. What about lead fishing wieghts? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:47:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Lead does not breakdown and get into anything. It is is almost insolvable. I never said lead is harmless, I said lead bullets do not breakdown and get into the food chain. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:48:07 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, Kansas' Constitutional Carry goes into effect July 1st.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:49:45 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, Kansas' Constitutional Carry goes into effect July 1st. We've got that in PA. Welcome to our rights Yeah but......it's PA. 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lead does not breakdown and get into anything. It is is almost insolvable. I never said lead is harmless, I said lead bullets do not breakdown and get into the food chain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Lead does not breakdown and get into anything. It is is almost insolvable. I never said lead is harmless, I said lead bullets do not breakdown and get into the food chain. Years ago, people thought lead in gasoline was harmless. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:52:42 PM EDT
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What are you going to use for .22's? Reloaded .22 Hornets and .223 w/ lead free bullets. It sure as hell won't be rimfire ammo, as things stand. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:54:17 PM EDT
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and it has already been proven that lead bullets do not cause harm the the environment. Who said this has anything to do with protecting the environment? Be grateful they haven't mandated gold core, platinum jacket ammo. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:55:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Years ago, people thought lead in gasoline was harmless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Lead does not breakdown and get into anything. It is is almost insolvable. I never said lead is harmless, I said lead bullets do not breakdown and get into the food chain. Years ago, people thought lead in gasoline was harmless. Years ago people would admit when they were wrong and not play straw-man arguments. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Years ago people would admit when they were wrong and not play straw-man arguments. You've proved that lead is harmless and can't possibly contaminate wildlife? Where is this proof? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:57:07 PM EDT
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Yup. Not quite sure how they check the bullet without cutting it open though. No different than federal regs about carrying any lead shot on you when hunting waterfowl. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one will pay attention to this, its not enforceable this is true, toss it, carry on The authority of the game wardens, puts police to shame. They will do spot checks, and they have the ability to confiscate anything used to violate hunting and fishing regulations. This includes guns, boats, and vehicles; if they choose to be an asshole. Yup. Not quite sure how they check the bullet without cutting it open though. No different than federal regs about carrying any lead shot on you when hunting waterfowl. Warden can squint and guess, or there is a high tech contraption he can employ, like a metal detector wand. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:57:20 PM EDT
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Years ago, people thought lead in gasoline was harmless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Lead does not breakdown and get into anything. It is is almost insolvable. I never said lead is harmless, I said lead bullets do not breakdown and get into the food chain. Years ago, people thought lead in gasoline was harmless. Are you seriously comparing lead bromide vapor to metallic/elemental lead? I have a degree in chemistry and an MD and you're wrong. Stop it already. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:00:02 PM EDT
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Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:07:45 PM EDT
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The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
That same gov and those same people banned hi-cap mags "for the children". Hows that workin out? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:08:28 PM EDT
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. YOU, my friend, are MASSIVELY uninformed. Metallic lead is NOT an issue to the food and water supply ANYWHERE. It would take tens of THOUSANDS of years for lead projectiles to affect the water quality in ANY water table in the US. This lead issue is WAY overblown, and preys upon the ignorance of those who confuse NON-METALLIC lead with the metallic stuff. Non-metallic lead (like lead salts from leaded gasoline exhaust residue) is QUITE soluble in water, and easily ingested by organisms. The metallic stuff is quite the opposite!!! 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:10:02 PM EDT
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Pellet rifles too. So no more shooting rats with lead pellets I guess. Stoopid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are you going to use for .22's? Pellet rifles too. So no more shooting rats with lead pellets I guess. Stoopid. Air guns are not firearms, and so are specifically NOT covered by lead bans. They will "discover" this "loophole" at a later date. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:11:36 PM EDT
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And thank god for those bullet buttons! Cali.gov and it's people got it all figured out. So if they say lead bullets kill babies, then they must kill the fuck out of some babies.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:11:40 PM EDT
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If that was the true goal, they would be banning lead fishing gear too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. If that was the true goal, they would be banning lead fishing gear too. This is coming. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:13:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:13:20 PM EDT
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The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
This is why we can't have nice things. Please stay in MI. We don't need another one of you out here. We have enough problems. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:13:38 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, Kansas' Constitutional Carry goes into effect July 1st.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:15:02 PM EDT
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Ha Ha. Fuck Kommiefornia.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We've got that in PA. Welcome to our rights Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meanwhile, Kansas' Constitutional Carry goes into effect July 1st. We've got that in PA. Welcome to our rights |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:38:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:41:43 PM EDT
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Why, it's just a way for the Southern democrats to control all us Negros citizens.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:47:45 PM EDT
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Ha Ha. Fuck Kommiefornia. What a class act you are. If you think this isn't coming for everyone you're a fool. Scratch that your response was proof enough. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:53:28 PM EDT
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and it has already been proven that lead bullets do not cause harm the the environment. I know what you posted was a tongue and cheek statement...but I don't think this is about the environment. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:54:04 PM EDT
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I can find 50 year old, blackish/purple spent lead bullets in the desert. Once the surface oxidizes, it becomes passive and inert.
People crying about bullets poisoning the environment are simply making stuff up. Here's your song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0&feature=player_detailpage |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:54:09 PM EDT
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So where the hell do you find "nonlead" 22 ammo for hunting small game? I'm thinking rabbits, squirrels, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1435544096n4v03mhfwfy Starting July 1, 2015, nonlead ammunition will be required when hunting on all California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) lands and for all Nelson bighorn sheep hunts anywhere in the state.
Further phase-out of lead ammunition for hunting in California will continue on July 1, 2016, when nonlead ammunition will be required when hunting with shotguns for upland game birds (except for dove, quail and snipe), small game mammals, fur-bearing mammals and nongame birds except for when hunting at licensed game bird clubs. Nonlead ammunition will also be required when taking wildlife with shotguns for depredation purposes anywhere in the state. Starting July 1, 2019, hunters must use nonlead ammunition when taking any animal anywhere in the state for any purpose. So where the hell do you find "nonlead" 22 ammo for hunting small game? I'm thinking rabbits, squirrels, etc. You dont. Thats the idea. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:55:13 PM EDT
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Just for the record I grew up chewing on lead shot when we hunted as children. My dad who is pushing 80 also grew up chewing on lead shot and taught us this. No one in my family ever got sick from it and we are all healthy. I don't think lead is poison at all and is just something that EPA and the government want to say just to help Ban it and help ban ammo. Also for the record I have perfect teeth with zero cavities and so does my dad. We also no longer chew on lead!
Lead comes from the environment and absolutely is no danger to the environment in anyway shape or form and any scientist that says it is, is a fucking MORAN! Lol |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 10:55:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryStuff has been tried and reported to be inaccurate, short range junk. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:00:32 PM EDT
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You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." I use those pipes to make bullets. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:12:29 PM EDT
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Lead is a toxic and trying to avoid it from getting in the water and food supply isn't a bad idea at all. Do I support a ban? No, but eliminating lead from wild and recreational areas is a good idea. Where do you think lead comes from? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:13:50 PM EDT
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The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
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You post shit from the humane society and believe it. You are being obtuse. Again how many shots are fired on average while hunting? Very few. Provide me with some study that shows lead is harmless. You are deliberately asking for the impossible, you know damn well that no one is claiming lead is harmless, what you refuse to understand is: It is NOT getting into the food supply from hunting There is ZERO evidence that lead bullets have ever harmed a single animal not shot by them Lead does NOT break down and "leach" into the environment like they claim There is such a thing as dosage, just because lead is toxic does not mean that you are getting enough to hurt you. Did you know that the Tunafish you get at the grocery store contains a pretty good amount of mercury, a substance far more toxic than lead? How about that Banannas contain radioactive potassium? Because they do, enough that your banana consumption is actually one of the factors to consider when calculating your background dose rate. Did you know that once upon a time most water pipes, including city mains were actually MADE of lead? And that many old ones are still in use today? Guess what, we didn't go extinct. You need to find an actual credible source before you go citing an activist group with an obvious agenda for "facts." The California legislator with hundreds of representatives, senators, and governor CAN move on something that has no basis whatsoever in reality? A state of almost 40 million people and no credible scientific source called them on it?
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Meanwhile, Kansas' Constitutional Carry goes into effect July 1st.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:21:22 PM EDT
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and it has already been proven that lead bullets do not cause harm the the environment. I wonder where the lead comes from? Hmmmmmmmmmmm? 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:25:52 PM EDT
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This lead bullet ban is a dishonest, environmentalist trick to make hunting first, and then all shooting, prohibitively expensive. They will be perfectly happy to make deer rifle ammo and upland shotshells cost $20 / shot.
It's backdoor gun control. Dumbasses in other states laughing and pointing will be the next victims of this fake environmentalist horse shit. Nationally, American shooters are so divided, they DESERVE to lose politically on this creeping gun control shit. Shooters who advocate for lead bullet bans are playing into the hands of gun confiscators, and hunters who support lead bullet bans are Quislings. For fuck's sake, why must we be saps? |
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