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Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:17:43 AM EDT
[#1]
WTF what a dumbass. Some people just can't drive. My old 99 z28 was putting 400 hp to the wheels and was drove year round including nasty IL winters. Traction control is for PUSSIES. I actually disabled the traction control in my Z by removing the fuse, I got tired of hitting the button everytime I got in the car. I drove that car like a maniac and never lost control. I think this guy should get himself a v6 mustang.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:22:54 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.


Which year?

I love mine. I turn off the ASC (completely, by holding the button down for 10 seconds) often and the car can be a handful (...of fun). But I leave it on if the weather isn't good or I don't plan on doing anything that would require it to be off. I've learned my lesson on a 97' 328i when I turned it off in the rain and got on it way too hard in a turn... I repaired the damage myself and I learned an important lesson.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4122/7886383654247422323im1mlz7.jpg




Mine is getting old. It's a 2002.



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:32:32 AM EDT
[#3]
The fact that he turned the stability control off indoicates that he was playing.

I don't have an M3, but I have an 08 335i with the Sport Package.  When I picked it up at the delivery center in Munich, the rep. pointed to the DSC Off button and said something like "This is for when you want to drift or do donuts in the snow."  

The reason you buy an M3 is so you can drive it hard and have fun ( I guess some people just buy them for show, but that's stupid).  The only way to learn the limits of the car are to push it hard.  This guys just picked a bad place to do it.  

I'm glad he was OK and that the car wasnt damaged any worse than it was.

Oh, and just because, here is my car:
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:36:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Sucky.

Trac./Stability Control has a place, the problems come in when it gets too intrusive or impossible to disable. BMW seems to make a good TC setup. Others, like the LX platform mopars(MB sourced) tend to err too much on the conservative side and some won't allow you to shut it off completely for fun time.

This is why my Charger has a NoESP kit
(235's are in no way enough tire for this car )
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:36:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Glad he's okay, but screwing around with the electronic systems off in the snow wasn't too intelligent of an idea



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:37:34 AM EDT
[#6]
When you're sliding the rear, you have about a 30 degree threshold before it goes "whoopsie doodle"

I guess he found that out the hard way.

Traction control is like training wheels.  When you drive your car enough you'll know when you're about to lose traction by the seat of your pants.  Until then, don't get brave.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#7]
Fool and his money...

Glad he's not hurt too badly
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#8]
I like Holton Imports in Jackson if you still haven't decided on a shop. They are kinda behind the Ridgeland library.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:42:42 AM EDT
[#9]
More money than brains and driving skill..
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:43:12 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.


Which year?

I love mine. I turn off the ASC (completely, by holding the button down for 10 seconds) often and the car can be a handful (...of fun). But I leave it on if the weather isn't good or I don't plan on doing anything that would require it to be off. I've learned my lesson on a 97' 328i when I turned it off in the rain and got on it way too hard in a turn... I repaired the damage myself and I learned an important lesson.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4122/7886383654247422323im1mlz7.jpg


whoa, another PY fan.  I kinda miss mine, but I loved my Audi i traded it in for more :D


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:43:39 AM EDT
[#11]
.....racing stripes in the underwear...no extra charge
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:45:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Oh damn!! Those hurt to look at! Sad.

<––––- very jealous of your BMWs!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:48:04 AM EDT
[#13]
Oops.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:49:23 AM EDT
[#14]
On the track with racing tires would be a great time to turn off the system
to induce slight 4 wheel drift and a little oversteer on exit.
One MUST be cautious on the street with street tires.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:49:31 AM EDT
[#15]
All things considered, it doesn't look TOO bad. Doesn't look pretty either. But it should be back on the road in no time.

<––––––––saving up for an E36 M3 and a Dinan package
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:49:50 AM EDT
[#16]
Stupid hurts. Luckily the pain is just gonna be felt in his wallet this time.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:51:32 AM EDT
[#17]
cold weather = no grip with those tires.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:55:45 AM EDT
[#18]
It makes me sad that someone who can't drive can have a car like that.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:56:32 AM EDT
[#19]
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Mine is getting old. It's a 2002.

http://members.roadfly.com/Agent7/M3/M3_360_bridge.jpg





Sure don't ride like and old girl. She's still rock solid B'.


Great cars those M3's
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:58:10 AM EDT
[#20]
one of the few vehicles I could see myself dropping the money for


glad he is ok
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:01:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:01:49 AM EDT
[#22]
he would have been better of paying for my college
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:03:08 AM EDT
[#23]
i didnt know BMW had a "Realtree" paint pattern......

i keed i keed
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:05:48 AM EDT
[#24]
HAHA.

BMW = Big Money Waster!!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:08:35 AM EDT
[#25]
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little bondo and paint and it will buff right out!



With a "can do" mentality
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:08:52 AM EDT
[#26]
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That's why they exist: to be driven hard and occasionally one falls to the statistics.  I hope he's insured through USAA so I can help pay for it.


This one wasn't being "driven hard", it was being driven by an idiot.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:11:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:14:49 AM EDT
[#28]
Crashed : Yes
Wrecked : No
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:16:34 AM EDT
[#29]
O snap
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:16:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Crashed : Yes
Wrecked : No



I'd say when the car is in a condition that it can no longer be driven without serious repairs, it's wrecked.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:22:21 AM EDT
[#31]
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little bondo and paint and it will buff right out!


Beat me to it...



 you guys are just too fast.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:25:07 AM EDT
[#32]
Beautiful car (those M3's are). Glad your buddy walked away unscathed form this and hopefully with some lessons learned and a bit of humility.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:28:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:31:27 AM EDT
[#34]
Seems pretty wasteful.

Fcuk traction control.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:33:21 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
That's why they exist: to be driven hard and occasionally one falls to the statistics.  I hope he's insured through USAA so I can help pay for it.



Yes they are designed to be driven hard, but by people who know what the hell they are doing.  If you aren't a trained driver, you shouldn't be fucking around in a 400+ hp BMW.  

That's not a statistic, that's stupidity.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:35:49 AM EDT
[#36]
I still firmy believe that sports cars shouldn't have traction control set to "on" by default.

It should always be off unless you find yourself driving tired or in heavy rain and need assistance.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:36:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I still firmy believe that sports cars shouldn't have traction control set to "on" by default.

It should always be off unless you find yourself driving tired or in heavy rain and need assistance.


liability/litigation... if it has it, and its off by default, and you have a dumbass attack, your lawyer will have fun with that
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:52:14 AM EDT
[#38]
Too Fast. Too Furious.



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:00:45 AM EDT
[#39]
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jesus christ, he managed that much of a fuck-up in FIRST gear?

man card revoked, right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:00:50 AM EDT
[#40]
You guys need to  give your wife's keys back, and get back in your trucks.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:01:15 AM EDT
[#41]
hahahahahaha, thats what happens for driving like a fuckstick
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:04:39 AM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:06:45 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Too Fast. Too Furious.

http://www.imcdb.org/images/007/663.jpg



He had one of those too... an M Roadster.  He sold it after he got the M3 and bought a 535i for a daily driver.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:09:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.


Which year?

I love mine. I turn off the ASC (completely, by holding the button down for 10 seconds) often and the car can be a handful (...of fun). But I leave it on if the weather isn't good or I don't plan on doing anything that would require it to be off. I've learned my lesson on a 97' 328i when I turned it off in the rain and got on it way too hard in a turn... I repaired the damage myself and I learned an important lesson.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4122/7886383654247422323im1mlz7.jpg


I have the same story

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:13:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
That's why they exist: to be driven hard and occasionally one falls to the statistics.  I hope he's insured through USAA so I can help pay for it.



Yes they are designed to be driven hard, but by people who know what the hell they are doing.  If you aren't a trained driver, you shouldn't be fucking around in a 400+ hp BMW.  

That's not a statistic, that's stupidity.




Well, the only qualifying factor is a fat checkbook.  I lament the loss of a fine automobile, but it is just a car.

If I remember right, I was keeping track of P-51 crashes back in the mid-80's, and there were more 'Stang write-offs than F-16 Falcons in 1986. A fool, some money, a little unskilled exuberance and VIOLA!  I felt some sense of remorse, but over the years I’d have to chalk-it up to its history being written as it goes through time.  One day the only ones around will be the ones suspended with cables in museums.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:16:02 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
You guys need to  give your wife's keys back, and get back in your trucks.



ROFL.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:16:28 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.


Which year?

I love mine. I turn off the ASC (completely, by holding the button down for 10 seconds) often and the car can be a handful (...of fun). But I leave it on if the weather isn't good or I don't plan on doing anything that would require it to be off. I've learned my lesson on a 97' 328i when I turned it off in the rain and got on it way too hard in a turn... I repaired the damage myself and I learned an important lesson.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4122/7886383654247422323im1mlz7.jpg




Mine is getting old. It's a 2002.

http://members.roadfly.com/Agent7/M3/M3_360_bridge.jpg



funny, mine is invers of yours, when I get home I wil post the picture, I am in Canada this week. These are fun to Drive and wished I could have been able to swing the 80K on the new one, but I picked mine up 3 months ago a 2003 with 30K miles. for $27K it was a nice find and always wanted one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:36:15 AM EDT
[#49]
Here's my buddy's M and our car club. So far we just have the one car. I'm the one in the background with my face covered. I haven't shown my face since ... well.... the haircut.



Just kidding.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:40:45 AM EDT
[#50]
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Whoops.


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