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Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:49:42 PM EDT
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With the millions of libs moving here from new york and other states I don't know how were going to keep Florida red. They destroyed the north east and now they will destroy florida. Add puerto rico to that mix. We're fucked.
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Yeah, I have been working on the wife about moving to maybe Utah when I retire in a few years.
I think Florida is a lost cause at this point.
BUT, ya never know what might happen in the future.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:53:33 PM EDT
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This won't pass a full legislative vote.....but,  Florida will absolutely be solid blue in my lifetime.  Between So FL , Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, plus the influx from New England, we will very soon be blue
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:54:18 PM EDT
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We are working hard behind the scenes...

We have good people with deep inside contacts working on the house and senate...

Any aggressive bill as described above will be DOA ~ defeated...

We did this fight back in 1997 against Dumbocrap ~ State Rep Debbie Wasserman Clown Schultz here in Broward County when she was running around with then Scumbag Sheriff Ken Jenne running BSO ~

Thankfully he headed up as a Convicted Felon Jackass ~

We have many great pro gun people here in Florida ~

Many qualified solid groups to counter the issues....
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Is there anything those of us outside FL can do to help you?
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:54:47 PM EDT
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Committee Meeting starts at 2:30pm.... gonna try and make it to speak against it.
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Thanks Brother
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:55:38 PM EDT
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God bless you.

You truly are an assrt to this site and Florida.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:56:31 PM EDT
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@SWIRE - I know we bump heads and all but right now we're allies.

Anyways....

The FL GOP right now is in a tail spin. This is an election year and the GOP doesn't have a lot of love in the urban areas. My personal belief is that enough Turncoats can side with he Democrats.
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We butt heads because we both are passionate about defending our rights, we just have different experiences and approaches.  I'm ok with that, healthy intense debate ultimate brings out the best ideas.  I wish you the best in this fight.

Did the vote in the House that failed have a pro-gun committee or was it mixed like the Senate but they saw the light at the end?
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:56:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:56:56 PM EDT
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I am fuming.....if I didn't live 7 hours away I'd be at the capital to speak....this is much worse than I thought and Rick Scott is selling us all out
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:57:59 PM EDT
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This bill will be DOA.

Possession of semiautomatic rifles or large cap mags.....felony.

No sale of said rifles or mags.....felony.

Never gonna happen.
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Have you called your rep and senator?
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:58:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, I have been working on the wife about moving to maybe Utah when I retire in a few years.
I think Florida is a lost cause at this point.
BUT, ya never know what might happen in the future.
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With the millions of libs moving here from new york and other states I don't know how were going to keep Florida red. They destroyed the north east and now they will destroy florida. Add puerto rico to that mix. We're fucked.
Yeah, I have been working on the wife about moving to maybe Utah when I retire in a few years.
I think Florida is a lost cause at this point.
BUT, ya never know what might happen in the future.
Yeah, about that.... UTAH Governor calls for Gun Control

Also they're probably gonna vote Mitt Romney as their Senator. Mr. Pro AWB and RomneyCare.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:58:49 PM EDT
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praying for you guys
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 1:59:43 PM EDT
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Thanks.

It’s fucking terrifying.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:00:42 PM EDT
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Now you know what it's like to live on the West coast.  Fighting this shit non-stop.  Good luck brothers.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:00:50 PM EDT
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We butt heads because we both are passionate about defending our rights, we just have different experiences and approaches.  I'm ok with that, healthy intense debate ultimate brings out the best ideas.  I wish you the best in this fight.

Did the vote in the House that failed have a pro-gun committee or was it mixed like the Senate but they saw the light at the end?
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@SWIRE - I know we bump heads and all but right now we're allies.

Anyways....

The FL GOP right now is in a tail spin. This is an election year and the GOP doesn't have a lot of love in the urban areas. My personal belief is that enough Turncoats can side with he Democrats.
We butt heads because we both are passionate about defending our rights, we just have different experiences and approaches.  I'm ok with that, healthy intense debate ultimate brings out the best ideas.  I wish you the best in this fight.

Did the vote in the House that failed have a pro-gun committee or was it mixed like the Senate but they saw the light at the end?
It never got that far. A Democrat from Cutler Bay (South Miami-Dade County) pulled a fast one on the Florida Democrats in the House (he went against them) and asked the Speaker of the House to bypass the committee and bring the AWB to the floor for a direct vote. It neded a 2/3 vote. It didn't garner a 2/3 vote.

All that happened was the bill was not allowed to skip committee.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:02:20 PM EDT
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This bill will be DOA.

Possession of semiautomatic rifles or large cap mags.....felony.

No sale of said rifles or mags.....felony.

Never gonna happen.
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Have you seen the make up of the committee?

Here is the makeup of the Rules Committee.
Chair: Senator Lizbeth Benacquisto (R) - PRO GUN
Vice Chair: Senator Oscar Braynon II (D) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Lauren Book (D) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Rob Bradley (R) - unknown
Senator Jeff Brandes (R) - unknown
Senator Anitere Flores (R) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Bill Galvano (R) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Tom Lee (R) - unknown
Senator Bill Montford (D) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Keith Perry (R) - unknown
Senator Jose Javier Rodriguez (D) - ANTI-GUN
Senator Wilton Simpson (R) - unknown
Senator Perry E. Thurston, Jr. (D) - ANTI-GUN

Right now, off the top of my head without diving into it. You have seven Anti Gun members of the committee out of a thirteen member panel.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:03:30 PM EDT
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This won't pass a full legislative vote.....but,  Florida will absolutely be solid blue in my lifetime.  Between So FL , Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, plus the influx from New England, we will very soon be blue
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If Florida goes solid blue, it makes it very hard for any GOP presidential candidate to put together enough states. Florida, California and NY alone tally 113 electoral votes. Add in the solid blue northeast and the other solid blue states, the math starts to look very bad for our side.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:03:44 PM EDT
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Now you know what it's like to live on the West coast.  Fighting this shit non-stop.  Good luck brothers.
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I was fighting it trying to every get this far.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:08:18 PM EDT
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If they pass any of this I am out of this state....I was planning to move this year. Thanks Miami for speaking and anyone else, I did all I can do right now and voiced my opinion on this.

Sadly the Demographics in this state are shifting against us....
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:09:05 PM EDT
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If Florida goes solid blue, it makes it very hard for any GOP presidential candidate to put together enough states. Florida, California and NY alone tally 113 electoral votes. Add in the solid blue northeast and the other solid blue states, the math starts to look very bad for our side.
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This won't pass a full legislative vote.....but,  Florida will absolutely be solid blue in my lifetime.  Between So FL , Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, plus the influx from New England, we will very soon be blue
If Florida goes solid blue, it makes it very hard for any GOP presidential candidate to put together enough states. Florida, California and NY alone tally 113 electoral votes. Add in the solid blue northeast and the other solid blue states, the math starts to look very bad for our side.
Florida will go Blue at a near point in our future.

1/3 of all Puerto Rico moved to Florida after Hurricane Irma and Maria and more are coming as we speak. You have massive migration from Latin America, especially Venezuelans. They favor Socialism as long as they can make money.

1/3 of all convicted Felons in the USA live in FL and the Leftists are fighting to grant them all voting rights.

The Pro Pot Movement is Leftist.

You have large numbers of Leftists from the entire NE moving to Florida to retire. They bring their voting habits down with them.

Plus you have the Old Rublican Cuban voting block dying off. Their offspring are educated Leftists due to being raised in American schools.

Our last Governor's race was a GOP win by less than a percentage point.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:09:05 PM EDT
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If they pass any of this I am out of this state....I was planning to move this year. Thanks Miami for speaking and anyone else, I did all I can do and voiced my opinion on this.

Sadly the Demographics in this state are shifting against us....
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May as well scratch Utah off your list as well.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:09:25 PM EDT
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If they pass any of this I am out of this state....I was planning to move this year. Thanks Miami for speaking and anyone else, I did all I can do and voiced my opinion on this.

Sadly the Demographics in this state nation are shifting against us....
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Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:09:36 PM EDT
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May as well scratch Utah off your list as well.
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Yup...what states are safe for the foreseeable future? Tennessee?
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:10:22 PM EDT
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We are all going to meet in WY, then take back the country!
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:10:50 PM EDT
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Look folks.... there ain't nowhere to run to.

States are falling like Dominoes. Colorado used to be held in high esteem as a solid Pro Gun State. Look at what happened. The cancer is spreading.

Stop running.... start fighting.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:11:44 PM EDT
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EXCELLENT!  LEt's burn it all fucking down.  Sooner than later.

Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:11:55 PM EDT
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Tag for edgy Arfcommers and their California Florida hate.
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Depressing it’s even being considered  
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:12:53 PM EDT
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Yup...what states are safe for the foreseeable future? Tennessee?
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May as well scratch Utah off your list as well.
Yup...what states are safe for the foreseeable future? Tennessee?
Tennessee has the same issues with their GOP.

Also a lot of South Floridians are moving to Tennessee. These are all "Half Backs"; folks that were born/raised in the NE, came to Miami as young adults and are now retiring in Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas. They bring their leftist NE/SF voting patterns with them.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:14:39 PM EDT
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Is there anything those of us outside FL can do to help you?
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This, I'm stuck home today so don't mind making calls and faxes etc.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:14:41 PM EDT
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May as well scratch Utah off your list as well.
Yup...what states are safe for the foreseeable future? Tennessee?
OK, the reddest state in the union.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:14:52 PM EDT
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EXCELLENT!  LEt's burn it all fucking down.  Sooner than later.

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This isn’t fucking “excellent”. Nothing will burn down, there will be no revolution.

If we lose now, all is lost.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:15:02 PM EDT
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EXCELLENT!  LEt's burn it all fucking down.  Sooner than later.

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So they pass this and we don't comply.....then they start throwing us in jail one by one....whats the plan?

I am getting tired of this BS

Now I really want that armed march
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:15:45 PM EDT
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I am calling AGAIN
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:15:50 PM EDT
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If the Conservative battle plan is to run and hide instead of fight then nowhere is safe.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:16:55 PM EDT
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Rick Scott speaking now:

"Not going to have access to a gun if you are struggling with mental illness. You shouldn't have access to a gun and you are not. We are going to have a violent threat restraining order with a report system so they can make sure that you don't have access to a gun. There will be due process. So they can make sure you don't have access to a gun. You will not have access to a gun, there will be due process, you can get those guns back ,we'll make sure that doesn't happen. We will have background checks so we can make sure we know who has those guns"



Yeah, I'm sure that due process is going to work out great
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Freudian slip?

Fucking statists.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:18:56 PM EDT
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Okay, I have my notes down to paper so when I speak I can go after what they're proposing....



Sorry for my shitty handwriting. It is basically talking points to bring up. I kinda have it formulated in my head and it all depends on what other people say before me.

EDIT - Yeah, I horribly spelled Constitution on paper.... kinda in a rush.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:20:03 PM EDT
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I’ve written multiple emails and called several times.  I’ve seen how this plays out and it ain’t pretty.  I was direct and let them know if they vote yes on any part of this package I will vote for anyone but them next time around.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:23:43 PM EDT
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Look folks.... there ain't nowhere to run to.

States are falling like Dominoes. Colorado used to be held in high esteem as a solid Pro Gun State. Look at what happened. The cancer is spreading.

Stop running.... start fighting.
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This we need to keep Florida from going blue.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:23:53 PM EDT
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MIamiJBT doing gods work

I emailed and called my local senator
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:24:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:25:00 PM EDT
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Okay, I have my notes down to paper so when I speak I can go after what they're proposing....

https://i.imgur.com/mKREi5c.jpg

Sorry for my shitty handwriting. It is basically talking points to bring up. I kinda have it formulated in my head and it all depends on what other people say before me.

EDIT - Yeah, I horribly spelled Constitution on paper.... kinda in a rush.
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Have to run out, be back at 2:30
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:27:25 PM EDT
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Link to committee meeting @230

https://www.flsenate.gov/Committees/Show/RC
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:31:31 PM EDT
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Is there a FL version of CSPAN to watch this shit show?
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:31:43 PM EDT
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I’m running into to Jax to buy a SCAR.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:31:57 PM EDT
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Funny how fast they can move when they want to.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:32:33 PM EDT
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If you go to this link at 2:30, they should have the link to the live feed posted.



It will be in the area that I sectioned off in red. Right now it is blank.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:32:52 PM EDT
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Government never fixes anything
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:34:04 PM EDT
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Is there a FL version of CSPAN to watch this shit show?
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Yes @sq40, I posted a link and instructions here
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:34:05 PM EDT
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And Rick Scott's ridiculous $500 million solution to assign an additional deputy to every 1,000 kids at FL public schools. No teacher carry.
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:34:43 PM EDT
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Yes @sq40, I posted a link and instructions here
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Is there a FL version of CSPAN to watch this shit show?
Yes @sq40, I posted a link and instructions here
Thanks Miami!
Link Posted: 2/26/2018 2:34:53 PM EDT
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Link to committee meeting @230

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Should we be calling/Emailing the chair is that not that important the others are?
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