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Non compliance would be the first thing. I wouldn't advise the armed march on DC unless your prepared to start firing, because that's what it would lead to. There are a lot of agencies in this area. They'd probably have to pull the security officers who are sworn to help.. But, still, 1 million people is entirely too much for them to handle. They would more than likely be unable to do a thing. |
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If everyone who started stupid threads like this would vote and stand up for themselves we wouldn't find ourselves in these issues. Nobody wants to take action until something severe happens. Why is Feinstein even in office still? If gun owners stood up when she first started her anti gun crap years ago we still wouldn't be listening and dealing with her today. There are plenty of other politicians that ought to be put in their place as well. The NRA will not help American gun owners. They will say they are for us, but behind closed doors they sell us out. They did it over the S&W glory hole BS and they have done in multiple other times since then. I choose to support a organization that does what they say they will do. Most states have a Grass Roots organization, look them up and support their efforts. Don't rely on the NRA to do what's right.
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Immediate large-scale active, civil, peaceful disobedience, for starters. Conservatives just arent known for that Probably because they are generally law abiding citizens by nature... |
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march w/o firearms if it doesnt work.... march with firearms |
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I'm not going to "do" anything. America has been voting for the individuals who wish to implement this political philosophy for a long time...have fun and enjoy your new paradise! The above is not directed at my fellow members. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) |
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I wish I could join you in your efforts, but all my guns were lost in a terrible boating accident this summer. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) |
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Pop some corn.
Tune in a watch the fun when Cuomo kicks off his confiscation. Should be a swell opening act. |
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Immediate large-scale active, civil, peaceful disobedience, for starters. Conservatives just arent known for that There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. |
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I'm not going to "do" anything. America has been voting for the individuals who wish to implement this political philosophy for a long time...have fun and enjoy your new paradise! The above is not directed at my fellow members. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) The sad thing is that I know you're right...I'm being apathetic. I just no longer believe that victory is possible. |
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Drive to Washington for the million arfcommer march. Would it be on a weekend....most of us have jobs. 1 million hooverounds going into DC. |
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Is it illegal to take a shit in the middle of the Senate floor?
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First thing I'll do is make certain that I'm in compliance with the law. Martin Luther King, in his famous "Letter from the Birmingham Jail," called on all Americans to actively but peacefully oppose laws that were morally wrong. King wrote: "There are just laws and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all... One who breaks an unjust law must do it openly, lovingly...I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law." This. But it saddens my heart to know that I will lose the things that made me an outlaw in the process |
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Challenge it in the courts. 10 rounds is LOW capacity, not high capacity, any survey of standard pistols will show you that most hold more than 10 rounds. Heller has a "common usage" clause and these weapons are common and ordinary, they sell them at Walmart for god's sake. That's as common as it gets. We've got good arguments, we need to use them. Any ban would see immediate court challenges and injunctions until after they were decided. It would only be after the Supreme Court ruled that the law would take effect. Then we either surrender or fight. The Supreme Court will uphold this. If Roberts "found a way" to pass ACA, he'll find a while to pass "common sense gun laws". |
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Not comply as a starting point? Million man armed march on DC? Counter legislation to impeach anyone who supported it? Take it to the Supreme courts? All of the above? I'm interested to see what the hive mind thinks would be the best solution presuming that the passage of said bill can not be avoided. Personally, I would take a jaundiced and cautious view of posting things on the internet in response to recently-registered members who use screen names such as yours, and start threads of this type. But what do I know? Reminds me of a saying that went around during the post-Waco days. You know how to tell the Fed? He's the one going around suggesting we should shoot people or blow shit up. I can think of few things the Obama administration would want more right now than to make a Federal case on a group of "gun nuts" plotting to do bad things. I'd also be leery of real life friends or acquaintances suggesting that you participate in illegal activities. For all you know, they were pinched doing something, and made a deal by turning informant on...you. |
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It will be null and void the moment it possibly goes through. Let them make whatever claims they want.
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Immediate large-scale active, civil, peaceful disobedience, for starters. Conservatives just arent known for that There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. That's cuz you guys are creepy |
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Is it illegal to take a shit in the middle of the Senate floor? Yes, but it's funny, so that cancels out illegal. 87th amendment right. |
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There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. That's cuz you guys are creepy I'll take that as a compliment. |
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I'll add make sure no conservatives on the supreme court retire or die on the bench. Or else it's all over for us.
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As was previously mentioned, promote firearms freedom acts, Wyoming style:
Any official, agent or employee of the United States government who enforces or attempts to enforce any act, order, law, statute, rule or regulation of the United States government upon a personal firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Wyoming and that remains exclusively within the borders of Wyoming shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be subject to imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00), or both.
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Ignore it. This.. totally ignore it. Continue selling them, making them, shooting them. |
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Hope it is so outrageous that the Heller 5 say no-go and stop AWBs forever?
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Sign this petition to help get Dianne Feinstein removed!!
Hopefully it sends her and other politicians a message! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-dianne-feinstein/ghStFHDm?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl |
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Please don't let it get to that. How many letters have you written or emails sent to your congresspeople today?
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Not comply as a starting point? Million man armed march on DC? Counter legislation to impeach anyone who supported it? Take it to the Supreme courts? All of the above? I'm interested to see what the hive mind thinks would be the best solution presuming that the passage of said bill can not be avoided. Non compliance would be the first thing. I wouldn't advise the armed march on DC unless your prepared to start firing, because that's what it would lead to. Exactly. They had no problems shooting the Bonus Army. I'm sure they have no problems shooting civilians. |
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Drive to Washington for the million arfcommer march. Would it be on a weekend....most of us have jobs. My job will be the last thing i'm worried about if they come after my guns. I will be at home every day/night protecting my ship. |
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. There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. It's nothing personal. It's your antics. We are not "statists" or "neocons" and we DO NOT "hate freedom." You (not you personally, but rather, the group) made your bed . . . |
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There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. It's nothing personal. It's your antics. We are not "statists" or "neocons" and we DO NOT "hate freedom." You (not you personally, but rather, the group) made your bed . . . When you say "antics", are you speaking of the libertarians who point out the hypocrisy of conservatives who support government intrusion into certain aspects of life all the while complaining about "dem goshdarn liberals" who also support a different form of big government? |
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Where are all these mother fuckers coming from? Probably google. Everyone needs to be careful in what we post so as to not give them ammo to use against us. They will twist our words and use them out of context in an effort to demonize us. Edit: Note the counter at the upper right of the screen. We have gone from an average of 4-6,000 logged in to over 10,000 in the past two weeks. Steady growth is one thing, and has occurred throughout the site's history, but to nearly double our numbers in two weeks means we have lots of guests who are both friendly--and unfriendly. Threads of this type are not posted by curious new gun owners. Hi de ho there du folks, how's every little thing? |
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There are aren't enough of us...even the majority of members on this website hate us libertarians. It's nothing personal. It's your antics. We are not "statists" or "neocons" and we DO NOT "hate freedom." You (not you personally, but rather, the group) made your bed . . . When you say "antics", are you speaking of the libertarians who point out the hypocrisy of conservatives who support government intrusion into certain aspects of life all the while complaining about "dem goshdarn liberals" who also support a different form of big government? I thought you guys are the "real conservatives"--I've seen that posted hundreds of time by you and yours. What "conservatives" are you referring to in your post? |
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I thought you guys are the "real conservatives"--I've seen that posted hundreds of time by you and yours. What "conservatives" are you referring to in your post? I don't claim to be a conservative individual. I think that many people get confused about the differences between libertarians and conservatives. Modern conservatives and liberals alike advocate government interference in the lives of the citizenry. However, they disagree on how, when, and where the government should have control. Libertarians generally wish to limit or even eliminate government interference. But, as with all things, there are varying degrees within each political philosophy. |
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I thought you guys are the "real conservatives"--I've seen that posted hundreds of time by you and yours. What "conservatives" are you referring to in your post? I don't claim to be a conservative individual. I think that many people get confused about the differences between libertarians and conservatives. Modern conservatives and liberals alike advocate government interference in the lives of the citizenry. However, they disagree on how, when, and where the government should have control. Libertarians generally wish to limit or even eliminate government interference. But, as with all things, there are varying degrees within each political philosophy. And THAT is why you can have a reasonable and rational discussion. Surely you have seen the "true conservatives" crap posted, no? |
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I plan on starting a thread about it. I plan on replying in your thread about it |
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And THAT is why you can have a reasonable and rational discussion. Surely you have seen the "true conservatives" crap posted, no? I've been trying to stay away from political arguments recently. I don't need the extra stress in my life. I will even admit that some of my political views are impractical and perhaps idealistic. While my inclinations are for a libertarian or even anarchistic society, I also lack the confidence in mankind to believe we could survive total freedom. Suffice it to say, I tend to agree with Thomas Hobbes on the nature of man. |
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Where are all these mother fuckers coming from? Probably google. Everyone needs to be careful in what we post so as to not give them ammo to use against us. They will twist our words and use them out of context in an effort to demonize us. Edit: Note the counter at the upper right of the screen. We have gone from an average of 4-6,000 logged in to over 10,000 in the past two weeks. Steady growth is one thing, and has occurred throughout the site's history, but to nearly double our numbers in two weeks means we have lots of guests who are both friendly--and unfriendly. Threads of this type are not posted by curious new gun owners. +1 I love how they use the word "we", as though they've been here for years and we're all good friends. The truth is no one knows what they're going to do until it passes. I know what I did when the now-repealed Canadian long gun registration law was passed. Let your conscience be your guide. |
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Not comply as a starting point? Million man armed march on DC? Counter legislation to impeach anyone who supported it? Take it to the Supreme courts? All of the above? I'm interested to see what the hive mind thinks would be the best solution presuming that the passage of said bill can not be avoided. Non compliance would be the first thing. I wouldn't advise the armed march on DC unless your prepared to start firing, because that's what it would lead to. i can tell you this.. i am not UNprepared to do this. |
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Why is Feinstein even in office still? She is the product of voter fraud. |
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I'm interested to see what the hive mind thinks . I hate the term "Hive"!!!!! |
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Gun ownership is our Constitutional right and we're sick of being criminalized for the actions of others.
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I plan on starting a thread about it. Wooooah slow down hotrod. We dont need anyone running off half cocked! Yeah,, you might want to wait until there is just one thread on the bottom of page one before starting another. But that was my plan, oh, and piss and moan in every other thread that appears about it. |
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Where are all these mother fuckers coming from? Probably google. Everyone needs to be careful in what we post so as to not give them ammo to use against us. They will twist our words and use them out of context in an effort to demonize us. Edit: Note the counter at the upper right of the screen. We have gone from an average of 4-6,000 logged in to over 10,000 in the past two weeks. Steady growth is one thing, and has occurred throughout the site's history, but to nearly double our numbers in two weeks means we have lots of guests who are both friendly--and unfriendly. Threads of this type are not posted by curious new gun owners. +1 I love how they use the word "we", as though they've been here for years and we're all good friends. The truth is no one knows what they're going to do until it passes. I know what I did when the now-repealed Canadian long gun registration law was passed. Let your conscience be your guide. Yes, I use the word we, "we" as in gun owners who have a firearm that would be affected by a new AWB. Perhaps instead of alienating new members you should consider that one large group is always more successful than many small ones, as strength comes in numbers. Ive always understood why people are paranoid about new members being ATF or whatever alphabet soup agency, but if you think they're aren't already alphabet soup agency members that have been here 10 years with 10s of thousands of posts you're a fool. I suppose since I'm not "one of you" whatever that means I shouldn't join the NRA (which I already did, because of the NRAs statement last Friday) and since I'm not "one of you" I shouldn't contact my state representatives. Think about what you're saying, the line has been clearly drawn the groups are set and there are only two, let people have guns or don't. If you want to win everyone better start learning how to play as a team. That's a lesson some here could and should take notes on from the democrats and antis. Instead of shitting on my thread, if you don't have something to contribute to working at a strategy to fight a AWB, or preventing it from getting through (which this thread is a good example of why it is going to pass, gun owners cant even unify on a gun board), go back to the old boys club and reminisce about the days that were when you could buy an AR15 in a gun shop legally. |
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