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Posted: 3/11/2011 9:44:51 AM EDT

[#1]

Sounds like he could get a nice check from walmart if he wanted it. Illegally detained and assaulted by tony at least twice and its on video that's about 20K at least

Posted: 3/11/2011 9:45:31 AM EDT

[#2]

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I just hand the checker my receipt, I've got more important stuff to do than worry about this " hassle". Some people seem to look hard for stupid shit to get worked up over. YMMV

I'm sure we all do. For instance, I have more important things to worry about than where I'm going to eat lunch today.

But I'm still going to stop and make that decision.

Posted: 3/11/2011 9:48:14 AM EDT

[#3]

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I just hand the checker my receipt, I've got more important stuff to do than worry about this " hassle". Some people seem to look hard for stupid shit to get worked up over. YMMV

I'm sure we all do. For instance, I have more important things to worry about than where I'm going to eat lunch today.

But I'm still going to stop and make that decision.

Yes but at some point you have to eat, making a big deal out of nothing is slightly less important.

Posted: 3/11/2011 10:35:17 AM EDT

[#4]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

This. And each "little" liberty we voluntarily give up, will never come back, and will only empower those who would take more liberties from us.

Seriously?You think that's a loss of liberty???

You haven't even left their property yet.There are a lot of ballsy criminals that will just walk right out without paying.If you act normal,no one pays attention.

And the rest of us pay for it thru increased costs to make up the difference in what the business loses.Hell,the local supermarket has been having trouble with people having subs made (in the back of the store),and then eating them in the store and leaving the wrappers in an aisle.

I have no problem showing I paid for merchandise before I leave a store.And I am all for personal liberty and private property rights.All they are doing is asking-not like they tackle you and cuff ya for heavens sake.

Posted: 3/11/2011 11:36:57 AM EDT

[#5]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Oh yeah? Prove you bought it.

Prove he didn't.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:08:01 PM EDT

[#6]

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

State law trumps store rules.

Bullshit, private property rights should trump state law unless we are talking about racial discrimination or something similar.

You mean the private property you just purchased and now own?

Damn, you walked him right into that one.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:32:38 PM EDT

[#7]

Originally Posted By David_ESM

Or maybe they just won't bother with people coming directly from the cash registers with Wal-Mart bags and perhaps check the people coming from the shopping areas (circumventing the registers) who have no bags but just items in hand.
Dur...

I think this is the main point. All that's going to come out of people acting like the jerk in the article is the closing of registers other then the ones in the front of the store.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:38:51 PM EDT

[#8]

What I don't get is they can see you walking up with $300 of BAGGED merchandise and still stop you at the door. Yeah, I'm stealing $300 worth of items and I'm going to stop at a register and bag them before heading out the door.

It is annoying to say the least. Every time I go to Walmart I am stopped.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:40:48 PM EDT

[#9]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:43:15 PM EDT

[#10]

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What I don't get is they can see you walking up with $300 of BAGGED merchandise and still stop you at the door. Yeah, I'm stealing $300 worth of items and I'm going to stop at a register and bag them before heading out the door.

It is annoying to say the least. Every time I go to Walmart I am stopped.

You must look like a criminal

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:48:06 PM EDT

[#11]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.
Private property.
Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:52:03 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Originally Posted By David_ESM

Or maybe they just won't bother with people coming directly from the cash registers with Wal-Mart bags and perhaps check the people coming from the shopping areas (circumventing the registers) who have no bags but just items in hand.
Dur...

I think this is the main point. All that's going to come out of people acting like the jerk in the article is the closing of registers other then the ones in the front of the store.

Can't wait for the whine threads when that happens...........

And if it was my store,that's what I would do-EV REE ONE goes thru the front registers to exit the store.No more registers anywhere else in the store-even if you dont buy something you have to leave thru a register line.

Posted: 3/11/2011 12:59:26 PM EDT

[#13]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.

Private property.

Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Private property does.

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:01:22 PM EDT

[#14]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.
Private property.
Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Private property does.

You're joking, right? State law prohibits murder, but it's cool as long as you're on private property?

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:04:55 PM EDT

[#15]

That was one long ass read about not showing a receipt.

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:05:55 PM EDT

[#16]

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Some of us just remember when retail screened and managed their employees rather than confront every customer and imply they're part of a theft conspiracy unless they can prove they aren't.

This!!

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:09:17 PM EDT

[#17]

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Quoted:

Or maybe they just won't bother with people coming directly from the cash registers with Wal-Mart bags and perhaps check the people coming from the shopping areas (circumventing the registers) who have no bags but just items in hand.

Dur...

I think this is the main point. All that's going to come out of people acting like the jerk in the article is the closing of registers other then the ones in the front of the store.

Can't wait for the whine threads when that happens...........

And if it was my store,that's what I would do-EV REE ONE goes thru the front registers to exit the store.No more registers anywhere else in the store-even if you dont buy something you have to leave thru a register line.

Already like that at a few stores around here, and has been that way for years.

One of my favorites is our local general store. Seperated entry and exits. They also have the best loss prevention team in town. They prosecute for everything, even if you just pocket a couple bolts/screws. Their employees have police commissions and can write up the reports without calling in the local LEOs.

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:27:36 PM EDT

[#18]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because I don't like being treated like a thief.

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:31:49 PM EDT

[#19]

Well unless I've signed an agreement I make it a point NOT to show a damn thing when leaving a store. Our rights are on a slippery slope when LEO's start enforcing corporate "policies". First just a nibble at the ol' reasonable cause laws then next is just a little bite out of the 2A, where does it stop?

I would absolutely love to be detained or arrested for not following a store policy like showing a receipt. That's just easy money if one wanted to pursue it. Even in those stores like Costco where you sign an agreement they can't detain you. Then can take civil action for violating the terms of the contract but a LEO would be a fool to enforce a private contract like that.....

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:45:09 PM EDT

[#20]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.
Private property.
Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Private property does.

Try explaining that to Bubba as he is pulling down your skivvies to get a bit o' late night lovin'. There is your opinion and there is the Law. A Jury or Judge will only consider the latter.

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:49:30 PM EDT

[#21]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

I don't get it either.To me it's loss prevention which saves us all money in the long run.

I don't have a problem with it since you haven't left their property yet-they don't know for sure you paid for it and theft is high.Even out here,there has been shit stolen from local stores by people just walking out with it like they bought it.

maybe because if we let corporation policy equal LAW in people's minds we'll be in a world of hurt...

Posted: 3/11/2011 1:50:29 PM EDT

[#22]

blade @ 45

Posted: 3/11/2011 4:25:04 PM EDT

[#23]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Oh yeah? Prove you bought it.

If the store wants to take that attitude, they should check EVERY receipt then.

Or maybe they just won't bother with people coming directly from the cash registers with Wal-Mart bags and perhaps check the people coming from the shopping areas (circumventing the registers) who have no bags but just items in hand.

Dur...

That's why they call ahead to the front and tell them the situation.....or like with guns, they walk them up to the front of the store.....or tape the receipt on the outside of the box so anyone can see it walking by.

There's a ton of ways they can get around asking to see people's receipts.

Posted: 3/11/2011 5:07:12 PM EDT

[#24]

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Employee who touched box and pushed back probably needs to be fired. That seems to me to be pretty close to touching or having contact with the customer which shouldn't be acceptable. I'm pretty sure that's a level of liability that Walmart does NOT want.

If an employee touched you would you blade at 45 degrees and scream "YOU WILL NOT TOUCH ME" or would you use your wolf stare to dominant him?

That guy wasted a lot of time over nothing. If Walmart wants to check your receipts then either show them the receipt or don't shop there. It really is easy.

State law should not trump a private business right to conduct their business how they see fit.

Can you please tell me why its acceptable for an employee of a store to touch a customer who hasn't done anything wrong.

Posted: 3/11/2011 5:32:12 PM EDT

[#25]

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I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because some of us don't like to patronize a store with our hard earned funds to have them thank us by nearly accusing us of theft.

Posted: 3/14/2011 10:29:32 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.

Private property.

Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Private property does.

You're joking, right? State law prohibits murder, but it's cool as long as you're on private property?

It's not like Walmart employees are actively walking the streets looking for Walmart bags and checking receipts.

They are doing it on their property. Big difference.

Posted: 3/14/2011 7:39:22 PM EDT

[#27]

My only issue with it has been in Hawaii, where we would get checked every time. I guess we were not brown eniugh to be passed by.

Posted: 3/16/2011 7:28:38 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

Their property, their rules.

State law.

Private property.

Hm... I wonder which has supremacy here.

Private property does.

You're joking, right? State law prohibits murder, but it's cool as long as you're on private property?

It's not like Walmart employees are actively walking the streets looking for Walmart bags and checking receipts.

They are doing it on their property. Big difference.

The issue is not with Walmart asking for receipts. That is perfectly legal. The issue is with Walmart attempting to detain a person without any reasonable belief, other than the refusal to show a receipt, that that person stole something from the store.

Posted: 3/16/2011 7:35:20 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I will never understand why it's such a big deal to have them check your receipt

ETA: post 595, Directv porn channel FTMFW

Because as the author in the OP stated, the law says you don't have to prove ownership of something you purchased.

This. And each "little" liberty we voluntarily give up, will never come back, and will only empower those who would take more liberties from us.

Seriously?You think that's a loss of liberty???

You haven't even left their property yet.There are a lot of ballsy criminals that will just walk right out without paying.If you act normal,no one pays attention.

And the rest of us pay for it thru increased costs to make up the difference in what the business loses.Hell,the local supermarket has been having trouble with people having subs made (in the back of the store),and then eating them in the store and leaving the wrappers in an aisle.

I have no problem showing I paid for merchandise before I leave a store.And I am all for personal liberty and private property rights.All they are doing is asking-not like they tackle you and cuff ya for heavens sake.

Asking is fine. False imprisonment is a crime. I have no problem with you showing your receipt. Please do, to your heart's content. But by intimating that I should show my receipt because you have justified to yourself why you show your receipt borders on hypocrisy.

If there is a precedent set in relation to these circumstances which would uphold false imprisonment, that is definitely a loss of liberty. We can disagree on the size of that loss, but that loss definitely present.

Posted: 3/16/2011 7:38:17 AM EDT

[#30]

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Why is it that 90% of people in Walmart smell like mothballs and cocaine?

Because they were snorting moth balls and store their clothes in cocaine.

BTW, how do YOU know what cocaine smells like....

Posted: 3/16/2011 7:56:39 AM EDT

[#31]

While Tony was dealing with this guy, $45,000 worth of stuff went out the back door in the hands of "first-class employees" wearing blue vests.

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:00:01 AM EDT

[#32]

I hate Walmart ,and I should love them I made between $100,000-$150,000 a year for many years selling them their private label bread and I just owned one walmart in my territory
always tried get get out of the store early before the 300 lb women on welfare came in.because a 300 lb women a stack of bread and me cannot fit in the same aisle

I can honestly say in all those years spending a few hours a day in the store I never spent one penny

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:02:48 AM EDT

[#33]

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Screw Walmart, such a bastard corporation. I have bad story about that shit place...

I bet you're union, or have a union family. Am I right?

TXL

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:04:07 AM EDT

[#34]

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

wrong.

Their store.

The law.

Their rules? What if their rules required a strip search to leave the store?

Sill agree?

TXL

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:04:34 AM EDT

[#35]

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

State law trumps store rules.

It goes back to what my Grandfather always said "you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar"

Why would I want to catch flies?

TXL

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:06:09 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

Agreed. Some just don't seem to get it!!

Yeah, those fucking laws mean nothing, right?

TXL

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:21:37 AM EDT

[#37]

You might want to keep in mind that WalMart can always ban you from the store if you want to pull shit like this. You may not have to show a receipt, but they don't have to let you shop at their store (or any store in the state).

Is it worth the risk

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:25:48 AM EDT

[#38]

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Why is it that 90% of people in Walmart smell like mothballs and cocaine?

Because old people love the snort!

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:29:10 AM EDT

[#39]

What a badass

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:39:49 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

State law trumps store rules.

It goes back to what my Grandfather always said "you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar"

I hate fucking flies

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:39:58 AM EDT

[#41]

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Private property does.

Actually no. Many people want to think it does but... if that were the case then meth labs would also be legal because they're on private property. Same with murder, domestic violence, rape... "personal property" does NOT mean you create your own laws.

Now I personally show my receipt. Granted I haven't been asked to do for quite a few years, but I don't care and don't mind showing.

What I got from the article was that the man was polite in his refusal. However the employee put his hands on the customer, to try to force him. That right there is where the store went over the line.

Now if the man had gotten belligerent or abusive towards the store, then I wouldn't take his side, but from the article it sounds pretty clear that he didn't... he got irritated yes, but not abusive.

What I have to say on the side of the store however is...
Sure a customer can refuse to show a receipt. However a store can also refuse to let them shop there again. THAT is where "personal property" rights come into play.

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:41:33 AM EDT

[#42]

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State law should not trump a private business right to conduct their business how they see fit.

Bullfuckingshit!

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:45:54 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

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If you don't like someone checking your receipt then shop somewhere else. Wal-mart keeps it's prices down in many ways, and one of them is through loss prevention. So instead of bitching about the the door nazi, bitch about yourself. You know they have the policy and you went there anyway.

Their store, their rules.

State law trumps store rules.

Bullshit, private property rights should trump state law unless we are talking about racial discrimination or something similar.

You mean the private property you just purchased and now own?

Bingo!

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:47:26 AM EDT

[#44]

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Why is it that 90% of people in Walmart smell like mothballs and cocaine?

LMFAO that is some funny shit.

I honestly have no idea what cocaine smells like.

It smells like blood and desperation.

And tears of a stripper.

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:50:35 AM EDT

[#45]

So what about places like Costco? Do you show your receipt there when you leave?

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:53:40 AM EDT

[#46]

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So what about places like Costco? Do you show your receipt there when you leave?

You can't leave Costco without showing your receipt.

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:54:13 AM EDT

[#47]

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You might want to keep in mind that WalMart can always ban you from the store if you want to pull shit like this. You may not have to show a receipt, but they don't have to let you shop at their store (or any store in the state).

Is it worth the risk

Being banned from WalMart is hardly cruel and unusual punishment.

Posted: 3/16/2011 8:58:53 AM EDT

[#48]

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So what about places like Costco? Do you show your receipt there when you leave?

You can't leave Costco without showing your receipt.

Not according to this guy

Posted: 3/16/2011 9:17:15 AM EDT

[#49]

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Employee who touched box and pushed back probably needs to be fired. That seems to me to be pretty close to touching or having contact with the customer which shouldn't be acceptable. I'm pretty sure that's a level of liability that Walmart does NOT want.

If an employee touched you would you blade at 45 degrees and scream "YOU WILL NOT TOUCH ME" or would you use your wolf stare to dominant him?

That guy wasted a lot of time over nothing. If Walmart wants to check your receipts then either show them the receipt or don't shop there. It really is easy.

State law should not trump a private business right to conduct their business how they see fit.

The law is the law and it does not end at a private businesses front door. No one has the right to search people or their property without probable cause, doing so is assuming I am guilty without due process.

Posted: 3/16/2011 9:21:05 AM EDT

[#50]

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So what about places like Costco? Do you show your receipt there when you leave?

You can't leave Costco without showing your receipt.

Not according to this guy

Seriously? In a country that's blanketed by CCTV, where cops don't even carry guns, and where having a pocket knife is a crime punishable by prison time, this is what the guy objects to? What a prat.

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