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Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Pets should stay at home. Your opinion is worth a good bit less than you think it is. Especially since he had to pay an extra $175 to have the dog flown. I would have cared more if you had said "my friend paid to have his PET shipped". You're just stupid. He clearly posted it was a service dog. Not like some random valley girl flying with her poodle. Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. Jesus Fucking Christ. Asshole of the year award goes to you.. I bet you're a helluva great guy to be around |
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Cargo bay is not pressurized nor temperature controlled. That's where they put the dogs - with the rest of the luggage. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They accidentally killed the dog. Its easier to just say they lost it. I'm going with this. Cargo bay is not pressurized nor temperature controlled. That's where they put the dogs - with the rest of the luggage. I don't think that's true. |
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Dog got revenge. Out of the crate, into the squat. That was a lotta piss!
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Badly. We flew him in to help him because he was having so many issues already. The airport claims they have it now, 6 hours later. Total time lost, 12 hours. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How's your friend handling it? I would imagine that if he needs the companionship of the dog he's either curled up in the fetal position or in jail. Badly. We flew him in to help him because he was having so many issues already. The airport claims they have it now, 6 hours later. Total time lost, 12 hours. If the dog is ok I'd say at least they found the animal semi quick. |
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They accidentally killed the dog. Its easier to just say they lost it. I'm going with this. Cargo bay is not pressurized nor temperature controlled. That's where they put the dogs - with the rest of the luggage. I don't think that's true. That is correct. Otherwise you'd have a shit load of exploded 3oz bottles of shampoo, mouth wash, and toothpaste in everyone's luggage. |
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They accidentally killed the dog. Its easier to just say they lost it. I'm going with this. Cargo bay is not pressurized nor temperature controlled. That's where they put the dogs - with the rest of the luggage. I don't think that's true. Correct. It's not true. Commercial airliners have at least 2 cargo holds, at least one of which is heated/pressurized. |
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Depends on the airline I guess. Last SWA flight I was on another passenger was able to bring his service dog on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I thought service dogs could ride with the passenger? Depends on the airline I guess. Last SWA flight I was on another passenger was able to bring his service dog on. I've never had a problem with south west they're great compared to the others. |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home.
This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. View Quote In before the personal attacks..... |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. View Quote It seems to me that a lot of people who have no understanding of the issue feel the need to comment on it. Maybe we could train an animal to prevent ridiculous posting. |
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Serious question, how does a service dog help for someone with ptsd?
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. View Quote The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... |
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It seems to me that a lot of people who have no understanding of the issue feel the need to comment on it. Maybe we could train an animal to prevent ridiculous posting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. It seems to me that a lot of people who have no understanding of the issue feel the need to comment on it. Maybe we could train an animal to prevent ridiculous posting. Where does it end? |
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Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Pets should stay at home. Your opinion is worth a good bit less than you think it is. Especially since he had to pay an extra $175 to have the dog flown. I would have cared more if you had said "my friend paid to have his PET shipped". You're just stupid. He clearly posted it was a service dog. Not like some random valley girl flying with her poodle. Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. Weak bate mate. |
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Talk about an absolute cluster fuck. Disabled vet, he has a service dog to help with PTSD issues and keep him chilled out. They wouldn't let it ride with him, which he understood. But now they've lost the damn dog. Nobody knows where the dog is. How the hell do you lose a dog? View Quote Same way they lose a suitcase. This is why my dog will never fly on an airline.. |
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The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... So only military and police because PTSD? Or can anyone who feels better around their pet get a card too? |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. In before the personal attacks..... You both seem a little out of touch with reality. And if you thought that was a personal attack you are wrong. |
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So only military and police because PTSD? Or can anyone who feels better around their pet get a card too? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... So only military and police because PTSD? Or can anyone who feels better around their pet get a card too? Do you know what PTSD is? Serious question. Its not just wanting to "feel better." I don't know if you've ever had intrusive thoughts, but depending on the severity, they can literally hijack your brain. The body's natural instinct is to suppress those memories or thoughts, in turn actually intensifying them. And that's only a single aspect of PTSD. If you want more info, there's plenty out there, just a google search away. Count your lucky stars. Picking up the amputated limbs of a friend can profoundly alter a person. |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel, maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. View Quote Being ignorant is a choice. You've decided to be. |
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Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Pets should stay at home. Your opinion is worth a good bit less than you think it is. Especially since he had to pay an extra $175 to have the dog flown. I would have cared more if you had said "my friend paid to have his PET shipped". You're just stupid. He clearly posted it was a service dog. Not like some random valley girl flying with her poodle. Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. I think you may need a service animal, maybe something that will alert you to when you're being an ass |
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Do you know what PTSD is? Serious question. Its not just wanting to "feel better." I don't know if you've ever had intrusive thoughts, but depending on the severity, they can literally hijack your brain. The body's natural instinct is to suppress those memories or thoughts, in turn actually intensifying them. And that's only a single aspect of PTSD. If you want more info, there's plenty out there, just a google search away. Count your lucky stars. Picking up the amputated limbs of a friend can profoundly alter a person. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... So only military and police because PTSD? Or can anyone who feels better around their pet get a card too? Do you know what PTSD is? Serious question. Its not just wanting to "feel better." I don't know if you've ever had intrusive thoughts, but depending on the severity, they can literally hijack your brain. The body's natural instinct is to suppress those memories or thoughts, in turn actually intensifying them. And that's only a single aspect of PTSD. If you want more info, there's plenty out there, just a google search away. Count your lucky stars. Picking up the amputated limbs of a friend can profoundly alter a person. How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. |
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How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. View Quote You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. |
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You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? |
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Same way they lose a suitcase. This is why my dog will never fly on an airline.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Talk about an absolute cluster fuck. Disabled vet, he has a service dog to help with PTSD issues and keep him chilled out. They wouldn't let it ride with him, which he understood. But now they've lost the damn dog. Nobody knows where the dog is. How the hell do you lose a dog? Same way they lose a suitcase. This is why my dog will never fly on an airline.. Canine Companions for Independence flies unaccompanied puppies around the country all the time w/o problems. |
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A lot of interesting points being made here. The VA seems to have some interesting reading regarding dogs and PTSD. Here
Clinically, there is not enough research yet to know if dogs actually help treat PTSD and its symptoms. View Quote Dogs can help you deal with some parts of living with PTSD, but they are not a substitute for effective PTSD treatment. View Quote Becoming dependent on a dog can get in the way of the recovery process for PTSD. View Quote An emotional support animal is a pet that helps an owner with a mental health condition. Emotional support dogs help owners feel better by giving friendship and companionship. These dogs are also called comfort dogs or support dogs. View Quote An emotional support dog does not need special training. Generally, a regular pet can be an emotional support dog if a mental health provider writes a letter saying that the owner has a mental health condition or disability and needs the dog's help for his or her health or treatment. View Quote So yeah I'm sure this will all be rejected because it's the VA, or the .gov. Anyway, two final thoughts: 1. Don't care what kind of dog it was, airline shouldn't have "lost" it. It's unacceptable for any company to accept responsibility for a living breathing animal and fail to take care of it as expected. Do it right, or don't do it at all. 2. I hope that vets dealing with PTSD aren't substituting dogs for actual treatment. I'm not saying anyone should make the choice for them, but I hope a man big enough to do the things he was asked to do is also big enough to admit that it might not be a good idea for him to rely on a dog to prevent or solve a problem. |
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Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? You're showing your ass. Still. Turn around and leave. |
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You thought they'd let the dog fly with him. Where was the dog supposed to sit? Middle of the aisle? They'll let small lap dogs fly with you but they stay on your lap. |
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I guess if one needs a pet to be secure enough to travel maybe it would be better to stay home. This "service" dog stuff is getting over the top. Seems a lot of people are claiming to "need" a service dog that probably don't. I really think that if all of your physical body parts function, you do not need a dog. The brain is a physical body part. Maybe, just maybe, one of the more important parts of the body. I dont have a service dog, and don't find that I need one, but for some, the crippling anxiety that accompanies crowds, precludes them from almost all daily social activity. But sure, let's put all PTSD sufferers on house arrest, for the children... So only military and police because PTSD? Or can anyone who feels better around their pet get a card too? Do you know what PTSD is? Serious question. Its not just wanting to "feel better." I don't know if you've ever had intrusive thoughts, but depending on the severity, they can literally hijack your brain. The body's natural instinct is to suppress those memories or thoughts, in turn actually intensifying them. And that's only a single aspect of PTSD. If you want more info, there's plenty out there, just a google search away. Count your lucky stars. Picking up the amputated limbs of a friend can profoundly alter a person. How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. Sure, I'll answer your question. In my opinion, its up to the patient's doctor to make that call. I'm not schooled enough to make those kinds of determininations and I highly doubt most legislators are either. But from your general "fuck em" attitude, it sounds like you'd feel better if they just made another law on the books that said people or establishments don't have to recognize handicaps. Looking at it that way, maybe you realize that this isn't a black and white issue, and that there's no way to quantify a person's reaction to traumatic stress. Two people exposed to the same event can have vastly different reactions. |
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Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? That's up to the airlines. You somehow think it's your decision. |
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Pets should stay at home. Your opinion is worth a good bit less than you think it is. Especially since he had to pay an extra $175 to have the dog flown. I would have cared more if you had said "my friend paid to have his PET shipped". You're just stupid. He clearly posted it was a service dog. Not like some random valley girl flying with her poodle. Call it what ever you want, but if you can't go into a grocery store, shopping mall or airplane without your pet, then stay in the fucking car. Woot my first ignore!!! Eta hope your buddy gets his dog back soon. Poor pooch is probably scared out of his mind. |
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How about answering my question? It isn't about PTSD.....it's about animals in grocery stores, on planes, and restaurants. Where does it end? You know how people are, eventually everyone will have some security blanket that is protected. You go invade Iraq, spend 15 months there, leave, and blow out your spine on a jump and then say that no one could be fucked up by it. Some people handle it fine. Some don't. An animal in a grocery store is not something that hurts anything except your tender little feelings. Sorry you are getting upset. I'm just trying to qualify what is acceptable. I'm guessing by the tone of your post this is more about military service than pets in grocery stores to you. This is where we part. I mean no disrespect because this isn't about military service to me. I'm asking where it ends? Just military and cops? You really expect the airlines to let any animal fly with the passengers if a doctors signs a paper? You're showing your ass. Still. Turn around and leave. You got trouble following directions don't ya? |
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Sure, I'll answer your question. In my opinion, its up to the patient's doctor to make that call. I'm not schooled enough to make those kinds of determininations and I highly doubt most legislators are either. But from your general "fuck em" attitude, it sounds like you'd feel better if they just made another law on the books that said people or establishments don't have to recognize handicaps. Looking at it that way, maybe you realize that this isn't a black and white issue, and that there's no way to quantify a person's reaction to traumatic stress. Two people exposed to the same event can have vastly different reactions. View Quote It's not up to the doctor. There's specific guidelines that a service dog must meet. Such as a seeing eye dog. This dog doesn't meet any of them. This is a "companion" animal. Like it or not, that's the way it is. |
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I don't get it, almost a century of flying, how do they not have the process of matching cargo to flights at least somewhat figure out yet?
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I don't get it, almost a century of flying, how do they not have the process of matching cargo to flights at least somewhat figure out yet? Millions of bags and packages make it somewhere on time everyday. I'd say overall they're doing pretty damn good. Meh... I still don't get it. Put shit on cart A on plane B. How fucking hard is that? |
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You are WRONG. Please go back and look up the definition of SERVICE DOG!!!! And then go thank a vet for his service
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Meh... I still don't get it. Put shit on cart A on plane B. How fucking hard is that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't get it, almost a century of flying, how do they not have the process of matching cargo to flights at least somewhat figure out yet? Millions of bags and packages make it somewhere on time everyday. I'd say overall they're doing pretty damn good. Meh... I still don't get it. Put shit on cart A on plane B. How fucking hard is that? throw in a connecting flight or two for half those bags... |
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