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Posted: 10/2/2014 2:01:32 AM EDT

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http://ships.bouwman.com/Planes/747-cutaway.jpg'

I'm not saying its accurate, but I haven't seen into the nose of AF1 and neither have you...

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That's a concept drawing of the USAF Airborne Laser System. (ABL).

The plane is now in the 39th AMARG Boneyard in Tucson.

Posted: 10/2/2014 2:10:53 AM EDT

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

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And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

Posted: 10/2/2014 2:17:54 AM EDT

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Ronnie would clean their clocks at 1,000 yards.

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Wow. Shitty trigger discipline there Ron!

Posted: 10/2/2014 2:36:29 AM EDT

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That's a concept drawing of the USAF Airborne Laser System. (ABL).

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8117/8709601282_179bbcc755_z.jpg

The plane is now in the 39th AMARG Boneyard in Tucson.

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http://ships.bouwman.com/Planes/747-cutaway.jpg'

I'm not saying its accurate, but I haven't seen into the nose of AF1 and neither have you...

That's a concept drawing of the USAF Airborne Laser System. (ABL).

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8117/8709601282_179bbcc755_z.jpg

The plane is now in the 39th AMARG Boneyard in Tucson.

Posted: 10/2/2014 2:46:01 AM EDT

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And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

ADATS and the RBS-70.

Posted: 10/2/2014 3:43:54 AM EDT

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I'm sure it has flares or chaff to distract incoming. I wonder if it has any jamming capabilities?

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I'm told that it has an impressive entertainment system.

Posted: 10/2/2014 3:54:43 AM EDT

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What would you shoot at, exactly? I doubt any country is stupid enough to shoot it down with a fighter, which leaves guerrillas with shitty ancient Soviet MANPAD systems.

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I believe there are hundreds of Stingers out there...

Posted: 10/2/2014 4:45:13 AM EDT

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

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Laser guided anti-air missiles?

Posted: 10/2/2014 4:50:02 AM EDT

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ADATS and the RBS-70.

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

ADATS and the RBS-70.

That just seems like a terrible idea, aircraft tend to be moving pretty quick and relying on a laser track seems, ill-advised.

Posted: 10/2/2014 4:53:01 AM EDT

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And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBS_70

Posted: 10/2/2014 4:54:14 AM EDT

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That just seems like a terrible idea, aircraft tend to be moving pretty quick and relying on a laser track seems, ill-advised.

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

ADATS and the RBS-70.

That just seems like a terrible idea, aircraft tend to be moving pretty quick and relying on a laser track seems, ill-advised.

RBS-70 can take down cruise missiles.

Posted: 10/2/2014 4:58:40 AM EDT

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That just seems like a terrible idea, aircraft tend to be moving pretty quick and relying on a laser track seems, ill-advised.

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AF-1 is designed with high tech countermeasure systems - I do not know the specifics, but you can bet that it has chaff and flare dispensers at a minimum, along with some sort of dazzler system to confuse laser guided missiles.

And what laser guided missiles are a threat to an airborne plane? I don't think there is any laser guided missile that is not anti tank. Guess it can be helpful if it is parked. But I think there would be bigger issues to worry about if that were the case.

ADATS and the RBS-70.

That just seems like a terrible idea, aircraft tend to be moving pretty quick and relying on a laser track seems, ill-advised.

Some newer short-range systems use a variation of the SARH technique, but based on laser illumination instead of radar. These have the advantage of being small and very fast acting, as well as highly accurate. A few older designs use purely optical tracking and command guidance, perhaps the best known example of this is the British Rapier system, which was initially an all-optical system with high accuracy.

But what I meant to say was infrared tracking, not laser like a typical ATGM, like the Javelin or a Hellfire.

Posted: 10/2/2014 5:10:30 AM EDT

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Ronnie would clean their clocks at 1,000 yards.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C18587-24.jpg

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Fucking Fudd.

Posted: 10/2/2014 5:27:29 AM EDT

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Our enemies are pleased how Obama is destroying the country from within, why would they target AF1?

Posted: 10/2/2014 5:56:32 AM EDT

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Our enemies are pleased how Obama is destroying the country from within, why would they target AF1?

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Post of the day!

Posted: 10/2/2014 6:37:46 AM EDT

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I saw a Smithsonian documentary about the 747 recently. They had an Air Force One pilot talking about the plane, and when he mentioned the classified defenses Air Force One has... well I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that it might have offensive weaponry on board. Not just countermeasures, but offensive weapons. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. I figure it would be fairly easy to retrofit a 747 with a retractable gun turret or a weapons bay with missiles.

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Lol

Posted: 10/2/2014 7:34:00 AM EDT

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I've no idea. But google found a picture of FBHO...

Posted: 10/2/2014 7:56:11 AM EDT

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Couldn't tell you. I'd guess they could sneak some missile in, like the vertical launch tubes they started putting in the puff the magic dragons? Those where for hell fires I believe, but it guess they could do something similar with side widners or whatever anti aircraft missile is of choice.

Posted: 10/2/2014 8:08:16 AM EDT

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I've no idea. But google found a picture of FBHO...

http://cryptome.org/info/obama-protect19/pict17.jpg

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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:20:01 AM EDT

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of course it does. It'll also do an inverted 4-G negative dive.

Posted: 10/2/2014 8:23:54 AM EDT

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Does it need them?

AF1 was here a few weeks ago and there were F-16s all aver the place.

Posted: 10/2/2014 9:55:54 AM EDT

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http://ships.bouwman.com/Planes/747-cutaway.jpg'

I'm not saying its accurate, but I haven't seen into the nose of AF1 and neither have you...

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I'm going to say that is not an accurate representation of a VC-25.