Quoted: Quoted: I AM serious. I grew up in Germany. Went to German schools and university. Worked there full-time. I'm a lot more familiar with how reality is over there than a lot of people, including you, apparently. Reality: Germans get the Holocaust drilled into their heads from a very early age in schools, newspapers, magazines, books, TV. The East-Germans blamed the West-Germans for the Nazi era instead of blaming themselves like the West-Germans did, is there a difference between the views on the Nazi issue between the Ossis and the Wessis today?

After WW2, W. Germany took all of Germany's responsibilities in war and peace on themselves, incl. war debt and collective guilt and atonement. The East Germans were Communists, who, after 1941, were bitter enemies of the Nazis and saw themselves as part of the international socialist resistance. They felt no guilt about Germany's deeds, since they were trying to bring down Hitler. That they went right along with Hitler per Stalin's orders until 22 June 1941 is a matter that is always glossed over...

In E. Germany the Holocaust was apparently not taught in schools except as an inevitable product of the denial under capitalism of the class struggle.... So, whole generations of E. German youth were brought up with a mixture of socialst ideology and racial/ethnic prejudices left over from the time of Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler- nobody ever bothered to tell them it was wrong, at least in education and culture. They never underwent de-Nazification as it went on in W Germany.

Indeed, many Nazis merely exchanged one uniform for another right after the war in E Germany, with little hassle from the Communists as long as the former Nazis had useful skills and didn't make waves.

Quoted: Was soll das bezwecken?

Wozu denn? Na klar: "Faschismus? Nie wieder!"

welcome to the English Colonies in the 1700's, we have digressed one more step again! hooray!

Quoted: Oh the irony.  In order to prevent people from dressing up like Nazis, the Nuremburg police have decided to act like Nazis.

x 1,000,000

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think they are targeting hooligans which we, the US, do not have those type of fans in our "big" sport(s)... Read the article Never been to a Raiders game? Ummm....we're talking about the fans, not the players here. Raiders fans are out of their fucking gourds, man.

Yeah, for one, they're fans of the Raiders.

Quoted: Freedom, what freedom?

+1

Quoted: Quoted: Freedom, what freedom? +1

Germany is violating our Constitutional rights!