something aint right here...why is everything in the pic blurry accept the door address? and why is the glass door convexed but the address not?...

Clipped this from a forum where the owner tried to explain..


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This is the manager of the store in question in this thread. We were closed on last Friday for the observance of the martyrdom of Imam Ali (A.S.).

We are closed every year on two religious holidays - Ramadan 21st (martyrdom of Imam Ali A.S.) and Moharram 10th (martyrdom of Imam Hussain A.S.). This year coincidently Ramadan 21st fell on September 11th. Muslims follow the lunar calendar and it moved forward by 10 days every year as compared to the Gregorian calendar.

While the timing of the day was unfortunate, we still realize our grave mistake with the sign that we put up. It was worded incorrectly and we understand how it could have been misconstrued. We sincerely apologize for any misunderstanding that this has caused. We have put up an apology on our store stating all this and clarifying our position - the text of which follows here:

September 14, 2009

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

This is in regards to the sign that was posted on our premises on September 11, 2009 stating that “We will be closed on Friday, September 11, 2009 to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Ali (A.S.)”

Imam Ali is an important personality in Islam and his martyrdom took place on Ramadan 21st in the year 661 A.D. Ramadan 21st is a religious holiday for Muslims worldwide. Coincidently, Ramadan 21st this year was on Friday, September 11.

Our store was closed to commemorate this important event in Islamic history. We did not mean to offend anybody by our actions. We apologize immensely for any offense that this might have caused. We are proud Americans and deeply regret the events of September 11, 2001. Our prayers and condolences are always with the families of the men and women who lost their lives that day.

We once again apologize for any misunderstandings that might have been caused.

Sincerely,


Manager,
Perfume Planet.


We spoke to local TV channels trying to clarify the situation earlier today as well - the news stories can be seen here:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7018149

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090916_jj_harwin-shop-911_090916.187edc6f2.html


We hope all this clears up any misconceptions and misunderstandings that were caused. If anybody has any questions, please feel free to PM me and I will be more than glad to answer them. Once again, we sincerely apologize for our actions.

Same here.

Well, to play devils advocate.  Ali did die first, and it was approximately on Sept 11th.  Why did you think they picked that day?

I'm going to have to write this one off as an honest mistake.

Well said, I bet a lot of people getting that email are thinking that "Imam Ali" was a terrorist involved in the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks.

But non the less they should have thought that through a little better.



 

Actually, that might be the correct translation...

Yeah...No.



I'm just impressed someone did actual RESEARCH before going apeshit.



I agree the sign was in bad taste, and the owner would have had to have his head WAAAY up his ass not to see the implications.





 

Read my post above.

Exactly..Imam Ali has nothing to do with 9/11 but you can connect the dots, its not hard.

GOD DAMNIT....THE 1ST AMENDMENT IS ONLY FOR US CHRISTIANS....ALL OF YOU TOWEL-HEADS AND JEWS CAN GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

I figured I'd jump on the intolerance bandwagon since we all know there are is no such thing as a peace-loving, patriotic American muslim

ETA:  Yes, I was being sarcastic...this whole thread is ridiculous.

Wow. I don't even. Wow.

Meh. Only crime was not thinking it through completely... And they made amends for it.

There should be no outrage.

Ramadan was in November in '01.

What?



Their religious holiday fell on 9/11 this year (not in 01, but this year)...



So what?



They aren't terrorists...



They aren't closed to 'honor the martyrdom of the hijackers'...



Nothing wrong with what he did at all...



Might have made business sense to include something about prayers for the families of the victims of 9/11/01, or similar...



But there was nothing wrong with what he did...

Hanging a sign to tell your customers you'll be closed on a specific day for a holiday is making a political statement now?  Dude, I like you.  You're a great guy, but come on, that's really stretching.

What part of "Freedom of Religion" are we having trouble with ?

The Chinese restaraunt in " Christmas Story " was the only place open when Ralphie's dog ate the turkey. Should Ralphie have shot the place up for dissin' on
Jesus ?

Is it seriously your contention that what I object to is the fact that they were closed on September 11th?

If I lived in Hiroshima, Japan and ran a business there, do you think it would be smart or culturally sensitive of me to close my store on August 6th with a note in the window written in Kanji stating that I was doing so in commemoration of the birthday of Colonel Paul Tibbets or Robert Oppenheimer? If I did so, do you think some culturally or historically aware Japanese might object? Do you think I'd get any fucking sympathy for my economic woes following such a finger in the eye of my targeted customer base?

On every business around here that's closed on a holiday puts up a sign stating what holiday they're closing for.  Every single one of them.  How is this any different?

So.... What does this have to do with a store being closed on a Muslim holiday?

Actually their religion is Called Islam, An adherent of Islam is a Muslim, meaning "one who submits".

The word Muslim is the participle of the same verb of which Islām is the infinitive.

Shows how much you know.

Probably would have shot his eye out first.

 

Come on Marines.  Let's chill out here.

You support terrorism, you are a terrorist.  It amazes me how people can let something like this stand.  Burn the joint down.  

Sounds like a lot of ignorant people overreacted to something they don't understand.

We all know that there are only 4 approved faiths here on Arfcom....Christianity, Judaism, and Atheism, and Agnostic.  If you're not one of those, then you fall under article A, paragraph r, subection f, line 15 which says that all other people are evil and are constantly trying to subvert the US.  Hell, I think we shoulda killed all them Japanese folks we rounded up back in WWII.  Everyone knows you can't trust a Jap when you're at war with their homeland.

I guess knowing what the fuck you're talking about...or at least reading the thread....before saying something stupid never occured to you.

Right, but it's in September this year. 26th day just happened to fall on 9/11.

You have evidence that the owners of this perfume shop are terrorist sympathisers?  

can you explain how being closed for a religious holiday is supporting terrorism?

after the snopes, no outrage...

I must have quoted the wrong post.  I was looking for the one implying 9/11/01 was chosen for its signifigance.

Your analogy is flawed and misleading because Col. Tibets and Oppenheimer were closely related to the bombing.  Whereas Imam Ali HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEPTEMBER 11TH.  An appropriate analogy would be that you closed your store on August 6th to celebrate a Christian martyr (actually Good Friday would be a better analogy still).

See, the issue there is that's a false analogy.  No religion that I'm aware of celebrates Paul Tibbets or Oppenheimer's birthday.  So there is no precedence there for you to do that for any other reason to be insulting.  So anyone pissed off at that would probably be perfectly justified since it would be obvious your intent was to offend.

Some Imam from 1400 years ago had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, and they are simply closing for a religious holiday.  One they've, by the owners own admission, always closed on, and probably will continue to do so.  If the 9/11 attacks never even happened, this store owner would still be celebrating that holiday, and the sign would still be hung.  So the intent is, on its face, not to be offensive, but to inform their customers that they will be closed on that specific religious holiday.

It could be argued either way whether the word is a proper noun or not.

convenient excuse




:  "Oh I didn't realize it was 9/11."



uh-huh



 

Don't use logic on the misguided fools, they are immune.

This is like dupealicious.  LaRue posted this same thing last week.  

You're getting pissed off about last weeks news.  

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=378117

Your analysis of my analogy is way off base. Neither the bombing of Hiroshima nor the greater Allied war effort were undertaken in the name of any Christian religion. There wasn't a crucifix painted on Little Boy or the Enola Gay. The September 11th attacks, however, were carried out specifically in the name of Islam ––"Allahu Akbar" being the last thing heard over the radio before the planes went in–– and Imam Ali is a significant, venerated figure in Islam.

I'm not going to say Jarhead_22 is a misguided fool.  He's just angry and not thinking about this clearly.  I truly do respect the man.

Hell yeah! Damn Semites!!!

Well, specifically they were carried out in the name of a specific sects interpretation of Islam.  Not of Islam as a whole.  You have to remember that to the monsters that perpetrated 9/11, other Muslims who don't agree with their view of Islam are hated just as much.

Damn them, those lavender-scented terrorists!

Lots of misplaced aggression in this thread...

Didn't do my research.  Assumed it was a hijacker.  I really have no problem now that I know the facts

Exactly, but the cult of die-versity will always make amends for the mu-slimes for even the most ourtrageous acts.

They were definitely going for shock value with this one.  It was not a mistake or misunderstanding.  I call bullshit on the explanation from snopes.com.

The fact that a particular group of Muslims attacked the U.S in no way makes it inappropriate for Americans to celebrate holidays that their religion has venerated for over a millennium.  

Imam Ali has as much to do with the 9/11/01 attacks as the Virgin Mary has to do with the Inquisition.

It was worded by either an idiot or someone who knew it would create "waves" and did it deliberately. A reasonably smart person would have said that the Iman died 1400 years ago on Sept 11. They had to have KNOWN that the way it was worded was not going to go over very well.