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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:47:00 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote.
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:47:01 PM EDT
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Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going?  I think the OP is missing the point. Four more years of the same, is the same as four more years of the same. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:50:13 PM EDT
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Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? I think the OP is missing the point. Four more years of the same, is the same as four more years of the same. I think the OP is missing. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:51:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: Take the offense and support the most conservative candidate during the primaries. But in Nov '12, you have to play defense to get Obama out. yep |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:51:57 PM EDT
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We got a communist in the White House, but you guys are giving him four more years in the White House because the Republican candidates are not pure enouch for you. Seriously, you all need to just go to an Obama Rally for 2012 and chant "FOUR MORE YEARS!", "YES WE CAN!", FOUR MORE YEARS!". 
We have a communist in the white house because the Republican party keeps on giving us republicans in name only instead of true conservative republicans. So thanks to sell outs like yourself we'll end up with a rino like Mitt Romney as a candidate. The democratic party thanks you as well. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:53:00 PM EDT
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I bet not even half of the people who will not vote or vote third party are volunteering and spending actual time and money to help the better candidate win the primary. Yet they will blame everyone else when the other guy wins and then throw their vote for Obama.
The average american spends more on potato chips than elections and wonder why they don't like the results. I dedicate between 3-5 percent of my income in an election year to primaries and general elections. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:55:18 PM EDT
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Get bent! Ill vote for who ever I damn well feel like, and that sure as hell aint Mitt Romney.
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:55:23 PM EDT
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Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? I think the OP is missing the point. Four more years of the same, is the same as four more years of the same. I think the OP is missing. Unless he can answer this, no point in him coming back. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:56:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: I bet not even half of the people who will not vote or vote third party are volunteering and spending actual time and money to help the better candidate win the primary. Yet they will blame everyone else when the other guy wins and then throw their vote for Obama. *snip* This right here |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:56:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? Romney wont veto everything a conservative leaning legislature sends him if anything at all. Obama will. The president doesn't make the decisions. He is just the one who can say no. Get it? |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:57:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Lots of dipshits here are going to give the communist 4 more years of power. The establishment communist republicans that gave us TARP and the programs that caused the housing bubble are in their death throws. You can keep trying to save them, but I'm not going to help. The sooner they are gone the better off the country will be. It amazes me that even as bad as it is people like you support people that refuse to cut one dime from the national budget but act like reducing the growth barely below the baseline will actually fix the problem when private sector growth has been way below baseline growth for some time. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:57:40 PM EDT
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I bet not even half of the people who will not vote or vote third party are volunteering and spending actual time and money to help the better candidate win the primary. Yet they will blame everyone else when the other guy wins and then throw their vote for Obama. The average american spends more on potato chips than elections and wonder why they don't like the results. I dedicate between 3-5 percent of my income in an election year to primaries and general elections. Cain got my money. Not my fault he fucked the dog. I'm still not voting for Romney. Fuck that tool. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:58:19 PM EDT
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Give me an R worth something and I will vote for him/her. Bottom line is this: Romney winning is not much better than Obama. Both are Communist/Socialist and will spend spend spend.
So far, Cain is the only one who actually has a plan and I am not overly keen on him. If I don't like R or D, I will vote for who I feel is better. We will keep getting dumb or dumber untill we the people vote to stop what is happening. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 6:59:04 PM EDT
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Lots of dipshits here are going to give the communist 4 more years of power. yup and this is why the gun culture in general sucks. The enemy is organized, and united. We're too busy bickering and chest thumping to unite and crush the enemy. That's why we got an AWB in 94' idiots decided to vote with their feelings and not with their heads. Cough; Perot. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:01:13 PM EDT
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Nominate someone worth voting for, and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. I like this, sums up how I feel in a nice simple way that can easily be understood. I swore when I stepped out of that voting booth having just voted for McCain that it was the last time I would play their game. I WILL VOTE FOR THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PERSON ON THE BALLOT NOT MATTER WHAT LETTER THEY HAVE BESIDE THEIR NAME. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:02:01 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. 
FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:02:26 PM EDT
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Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? Romney wont veto everything a conservative leaning legislature sends him if anything at all. Obama will. The president doesn't make the decisions. He is just the one who can say no. Get it? By your logic maybe we SHOULD vote the President since his being in there will encourage an opposition House and Senate and keep those things from happening. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:02:44 PM EDT
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I dont let anyone shit-talk me into how, or who I should vote for.
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:03:12 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. http://www.obamaantichrist.org/images/obama-antichrist-evidence.jpg FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! You are intellectually dishonest. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:03:56 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. http://www.obamaantichrist.org/images/obama-antichrist-evidence.jpg FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! OP, don't be a jackass. Seriously. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:04:00 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. http://www.obamaantichrist.org/images/obama-antichrist-evidence.jpg FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! You are intellectually dishonest. You are going to give us four more years of Obama. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:04:15 PM EDT
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let me make this big so some of you can understand.
The legislative branch writes the budget. The legislative branch writes the laws. The only real power the president has is to veto the legislative branch. If we get a congress willing to work on any of our problems a RINO president will not be a huge obstacle. Obama will be a huge fucking problem. If a RINO wins we can pressure him with public approval of conservative legislation. If Obama wins no fucking chance in hell. If a RINO pushes for liberal bullshit a conservative congress will not give it to him if we are against it therefore we lose nothing. GET IT? |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:05:57 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. http://www.obamaantichrist.org/images/obama-antichrist-evidence.jpg FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! You are intellectually dishonest. You are going to give us four more years of Obama. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:06:14 PM EDT
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The problem is a RINO will likely go with the more liberal things that are brought in front of him. Did Romney veto healthcare, gun control, etc in MA? How many Republican judges did he appoint?
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:06:36 PM EDT
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If the R loses in '12 it will be because the Rs put up a shitty candidate. Not because a small number of people vote 3rd party.
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:07:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Nominate someone worth voting for, and I'll vote for him. Don't, and I won't. How is that "Hope and Change" working for you? A lot like the GOP's " Denial and Irony ". |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:07:54 PM EDT
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won't waste my vote on someone I can't stand or abide by, my principles won't allow me to do that. You may be able to compromise and by all means go ahead and do so, but don't tell me how the fuck I need to vote. I already know how you are going to vote. http://www.obamaantichrist.org/images/obama-antichrist-evidence.jpg FOUR MORE YEARS! YES WE CAN! FOUR MORE YEARS! You are intellectually dishonest. You are going to give us four more years of Obama. I am not going to give you anything. If Obama wins, it is because of the people who voted for him. If I vote for the Big "R" my vote still wont count. You continue to be intellectually dishonest. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:07:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: we need things to happen things that a rino might let happen and obama wont. a conservative congress wont let Obama or a RINO have their liberal bullshit. Do you understand that? The president can't make laws. Obama isn't encouraging our representatives to act like conservatives WE ARE! We haven't been active in over a decade which is why we had so much compromise. WIth our support they act how they should.Quoted: Quoted: Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? Romney wont veto everything a conservative leaning legislature sends him if anything at all. Obama will. The president doesn't make the decisions. He is just the one who can say no. Get it? By your logic maybe we SHOULD vote the President since his being in there will encourage an opposition House and Senate and keep those things from happening. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:08:49 PM EDT
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let me make this big so some of you can understand. The legislative branch writes the budget. The legislative branch writes the laws. The only real power the president has is to veto the legislative branch. If we get a congress willing to work on any of our problems a RINO president will not be a huge obstacle. Obama will be a huge fucking problem. If a RINO wins we can pressure him with public approval of conservative legislation. If Obama wins no fucking chance in hell. If a RINO pushes for liberal bullshit a conservative congress will not give it to him if we are against it therefore we lose nothing. GET IT? So the legislature will take no notice of just whom the American people elect to the Presidency? How did that whole thing work out when Bush was in the White House and the Republicans controlled both houses of congress, again? How likely do you think the legislature is to even attempt to repeal Obamacare if the American people elect the man who fathered the bill it was modeled after (and still unashamedly defends it!)? |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:09:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: The problem is a RINO will likely go with the more liberal things that are brought in front of him. Did Romney veto healthcare, gun control, etc in MA? How many Republican judges did he appoint? He governed a liberal state and liked having a job. He gave the people what they wanted. America is not MA. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:12:04 PM EDT
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I just want it to be like before.
When Bush junior understood and supported small government. Was against any expansion of government and clearly was against nation building.  Those crazy democrats .....what have they done. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:13:10 PM EDT
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If the R loses in '12 it will be because the Rs put up a shitty candidate. Not because a small number of people vote 3rd party. It was Ralph Nader running on the Green Party ticket in 2000 that split the liberal vote and got George W. Bush elected. The Left learned their lesson but the 3rd party conservative here are not smart enough to learn from two elections (1992, 2008) that gave us Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:14:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: let me make this big so some of you can understand. The legislative branch writes the budget. The legislative branch writes the laws. The only real power the president has is to veto the legislative branch. If we get a congress willing to work on any of our problems a RINO president will not be a huge obstacle. Obama will be a huge fucking problem. If a RINO wins we can pressure him with public approval of conservative legislation. If Obama wins no fucking chance in hell. If a RINO pushes for liberal bullshit a conservative congress will not give it to him if we are against it therefore we lose nothing. GET IT? So the legislature will take no notice of just whom the American people elect to the Presidency? How did that whole thing work out when Bush was in the White House and the Republicans controlled both houses of congress, again? How likely do you think the legislature is to even attempt to repeal Obamacare if the American people elect the man who fathered the bill it was modeled after (and still unashamedly defends it!)? very likely . The reason Bushs congress acted the way they did is because all of us conservatives ignored our representatives. Liberals hounded them. THey felt that compromise is what people wanted because we never told them otherwise. REmember how fast they switched away from comprehensive immigration reform when we noticed and made a fuss? A representatives job is to go with what their constituents want. If we are silent they listen to those who aren't. If you think there is such thing as a principled politician that wont sway with what they think the majority in their district wants you are dreaming. Those that don't get fired ( 2010) You have to apply pressure. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:16:58 PM EDT
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The problem is a RINO will likely go with the more liberal things that are brought in front of him. Did Romney veto healthcare, gun control, etc in MA? How many Republican judges did he appoint? He governed a liberal state and liked having a job. He gave the people what they wanted. America is not MA. Sorry, I'd rather have someone with principles. If you don't think he'll support universal healthcare, gun control, abortion, etc you are deluding yourself. He will flip-flop in a minute and the problem is he will have more slack in doing so then the President. I didn't vote for the President and won't be voting for him next year, I agree he is acting as a Fabian Socialist and trying to destroy our country. That said I don't see any reason to vote for Romney whose positions are basically the same, especially since the President isn't elected by the popular vote. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:18:04 PM EDT
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let me make this big so some of you can understand. The legislative branch writes the budget. The legislative branch writes the laws. The only real power the president has is to veto the legislative branch. If we get a congress willing to work on any of our problems a RINO president will not be a huge obstacle. Obama will be a huge fucking problem. If a RINO wins we can pressure him with public approval of conservative legislation. If Obama wins no fucking chance in hell. If a RINO pushes for liberal bullshit a conservative congress will not give it to him if we are against it therefore we lose nothing. GET IT? So the legislature will take no notice of just whom the American people elect to the Presidency? How did that whole thing work out when Bush was in the White House and the Republicans controlled both houses of congress, again? How likely do you think the legislature is to even attempt to repeal Obamacare if the American people elect the man who fathered the bill it was modeled after (and still unashamedly defends it!)? very likely . The reason Bushs congress acted the way they did is because all of us conservatives ignored our representatives. Liberals hounded them. THey felt that compromise is what people wanted because we never told them otherwise. REmember how fast they switched away from comprehensive immigration reform when we noticed and made a fuss? A representatives job is to go with what their constituents want. If we are silent they listen to those who aren't. If you think there is such thing as a principled politician that wont sway with what they think the majority in their district wants you are dreaming. Those that don't get fired ( 2010) You have to apply pressure. 
They're ALREADY making noises about it being a done deal... and we haven't even picked a nominee! Good grief are you going to be disappointed in 2012. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:18:17 PM EDT
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Right now the GOP has my vote. If they serve me a shit sandwich I will not reward them with my vote. If obama gets 4 more years the GOP best look in the mirror and not point their finger at 3rd party voters. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:20:38 PM EDT
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SNIP A representatives job is to go with what their constituents want. If we are silent they listen to those who aren't. If you think there is such thing as a principled politician that wont sway with what they think the majority in their district wants you are dreaming. Those that don't get fired ( 2010) You have to apply pressure. I don't think we are that far apart (other then maybe you think one must vote Republican no matter what) as I agree with this. We need to be pressuring our representatives and if they fail to do what we want we need to replace them. That said we also should try and get a President elected that will have principles and stand up for what he believes in whether it is popular or not. That alone is reason enough not to vote for Romney. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:21:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: if Romney gets the GOP nod, it will be the same as obama. make no mistake about it, he will put in liberal SCOTUS judges. he will sign anti gun laws. he will not be any different, in fact probably worse, than what we have in the white house already. try living in a state he fucked up already. you want him to do the same to the nation? fuck that. Except the person doing it will have an (R) after his name, and the Republican party will (rightly) get the blame, putting the ball back in the Dems court. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:22:55 PM EDT
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If the R loses in '12 it will be because the Rs put up a shitty candidate. Not because a small number of people vote 3rd party. It was Ralph Nader running on the Green Party ticket in 2000 that split the liberal vote and got George W. Bush elected. The Left learned their lesson but the 3rd party conservative here are not smart enough to learn from two elections (1992, 2008) that gave us Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. You continue to be intellectually dishonest. Candidate - votes Barack Obama (D) 69,498,215 John McCain (R) 59,948,240 Ralph Nader (I) 738,720 Bob Barr (L) 523,713 Chuck Baldwin (C) 199,437 Cynthia McKinney (G) 161,680 All the top 4 third party candidates added up to ~1/10 of the difference between McCain and Obama. Third party voters did not swing the 2008 election. ETA: Moreover, after crunching the numbers, Perot only took 0.67% more votes away from Bush than he did from Clinton (according to exit polling). Clinton won by far more than 0.67% of the vote. Clinton won fair and square. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:23:20 PM EDT
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I will not vote for a garbage candidate just because he is not Obama. Not voting for the Big "R" that is going against Obama is not the same as voting for or supporting Obama. Get that through your thick skull. I do not owe you, or any other group, party, person, or affiliation my vote. It is mine and mine alone. Voting, how the fuck does it work? It's all good. We'll just have to get Osama out of the white house without your help. 
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:25:29 PM EDT
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If you don't want 3rd party votes, then don't give RINO Romney the nomination.
Very simple solution. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:25:37 PM EDT
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Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? You'll wait forever. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:26:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Give me an R worth something and I will vote for him/her. Bottom line is this: Romney winning is not much better than Obama. Both are Communist/Socialist and will spend spend spend. So far, Cain is the only one who actually has a plan and I am not overly keen on him. If I don't like R or D, I will vote for who I feel is better. We will keep getting dumb or dumber untill we the people vote to stop what is happening. Cain is NOT the only one who has a plan. Paul, Johnson, and Perry have all unveiled their plans. Whether you like them or not is another story, but Cain is NOT the only one with a plan. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:27:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just want it to be like before. When Bush junior understood and supported small government. Was against any expansion of government and clearly was against nation building. Those crazy democrats .....what have they done. What you did there.... I see it. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:28:05 PM EDT
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We got a communist in the White House, but you guys are giving him four more years in the White House because the Republican candidates are not pure enouch for you. Seriously, you all need to just go to an Obama Rally for 2012 and chant "FOUR MORE YEARS!", "YES WE CAN!", FOUR MORE YEARS!".
Conservatives should have it easy with Obama and the economy, yet there is a chance Obama might win which says a lot about our selection and you want to blame us? |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:30:07 PM EDT
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I just want it to be like before. When Bush junior understood and supported small government. Was against any expansion of government and clearly was against nation building.
Those crazy democrats .....what have they done. What you did there.... I see it. And it is the true tragedy here. The Republicans and Democrats are basically the same. We really do need a viable third party that supports smaller government. The problem is the big two parties and the media are against it and working 110% to stop a third party from being competitive. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:30:29 PM EDT
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I will not vote for a garbage candidate just because he is not Obama. Not voting for the Big "R" that is going against Obama is not the same as voting for or supporting Obama. Get that through your thick skull. I do not owe you, or any other group, party, person, or affiliation my vote. It is mine and mine alone. Voting, how the fuck does it work? It's all good. We'll just have to get Osama out of the white house without your help. Did I ever say that I wasn't going to vote for the Republican candidate?
Only time will tell if I do or not. Republicans have better get a decent candidate or we will see a repeat of 2008. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:31:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: we need things to happen things that a rino might let happen and obama wont. a conservative congress wont let Obama or a RINO have their liberal bullshit. Do you understand that? The president can't make laws. Obama isn't encouraging our representatives to act like conservatives WE ARE! We haven't been active in over a decade which is why we had so much compromise. WIth our support they act how they should.Quoted: Quoted: Still waiting from OP to hear how Romney is better then the President on healthcare, gun control, abortion, should I keep going? Romney wont veto everything a conservative leaning legislature sends him if anything at all. Obama will. The president doesn't make the decisions. He is just the one who can say no. Get it? By your logic maybe we SHOULD vote the President since his being in there will encourage an opposition House and Senate and keep those things from happening. Really? Did Congress appoint all those CZARS? What about those end run laws Obama is making now because Congress won't pass his bill? What about all those executive orders that Presidents create which don't go through Congress? |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:31:54 PM EDT
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I will not vote for a garbage candidate just because he is not Obama. Not voting for the Big "R" that is going against Obama is not the same as voting for or supporting Obama. Get that through your thick skull. I do not owe you, or any other group, party, person, or affiliation my vote. It is mine and mine alone. Voting, how the fuck does it work? It's all good. We'll just have to get Osama out of the white house without your help. Did I ever say that I wasn't going to vote for the Republican candidate?
Only time will tell if I do or not. Republicans have better get a decent candidate or we will see a repeat of 2008. Yep. If anyone but Romney is the candidate I'll willing to vote Republican. |
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Posted: 11/19/2011 7:32:52 PM EDT
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Why doesn't everyone just vote 3rd party? Why does it have to be a Republican? If keeping Obama out of office is the only goal, that would be an accomplishment.
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