Sir, our country needs more patriots like you. Thanks for all you're doing and you have my full support. I will print forms and submit them when completed. Thank you again.

Thank you sir . All of you guys, wow, I really appreciate it. keep them coming and I will not let our side down. I may not have all the answers, but I will push and get some stuff done. I am beating over the years more than a few if us will meet and some of you will work with me side by side to solve some really neat things ...... Love to get stuff done with ARFCOMER's !

I managed to get several signatures today.  May I sign my own petition?

Also, I notice that somebody signed the date with 2013 instead of 2014.  Does that disqualify the signature?

Sweet, thank you!!!!

IM sent, but for the general knowledge: You may sign your own indeed as long as you have also signed the person collecting/circulating the petition field as well & take one of the 15 lines on the form. You have to then reenter some of the same data on one of those 15 lines.

As for the date, yep 2013 will void that particular nomination, not the whole form.

This petition process was designed to fail. The NRA does it to keep those not interested in really helping (read destroy) the NRA from even getting on the ballot. Now it also makes is brilliantly hard for even those grassroots folks who are true believers in the 2nd Amendment to get on the ballot as well.

That does not mean that I am not trying my damnedest by flying all over country and looking members in the eye. I don't think I am entitled and I will always run this way, by earning it with the members. But getting the petition forms is difficult and they look for any reason to disqualify the forms/signatures. About 2/3 of those mailed to me have to be redone. I quickly drop the correct forms with signature flags, directions, a flyer and a note apologizing for the painful process. I enclose a post paid return envelope and so far I have gotten a few back. Hear me, these are not my demands, the NRA is just going to toss them. I know it is a pain the ass, trust me I know.

Some of the most common errors are:

1.) Not using legal paper
2.) using legal paper but the print only covering the size of a normal 8.5 x 11 in horizontal orientation (I had one with 12 signatures yesterday!) the NRA will void the whole page
3.) Most people are leaving off the circulator of the petition blank. Even if it is just one signature, the person collecting has to be at the top.

I put direction on my website, but most people will not read them. Hey I am very guilty of not reading direction too.

Some are just sending me an IM with their address and I drop a packet with return postage. Glad to do that.

I will get past this and I will hopefully get enough, I need 250 valid voting members signatures. About 40% of the petition nomination lines on the forms will not be valid because some can't be read, others will not be voting members or their name does not exactly match the the NRA's records. So I need somewhere north of 400 to be safe. I am about half way there and I have until the end of September. I am going to three more gun shows (Houston, Phoenix and ABQ, NM, I could not make Charlotte they would not call back). Each of those shows might yield 30 signatures over a two day period.

So without the dedicated support I have been getting here, a few friends really digging in for me (one guy got me 45!) and the gun shows this would be impossible.
Know that every signature counts and I value every one I get. I will sent a packet back with a return envelope for even one signature if the form is incorrect.

So 25 people will get an internal nomination from the Nominating Commitee as approved and vetted candidates for the board. I will NOT be among those 25. Perhaps 5 to 7 more will get on the ballot by this petition process (the really cool kids get both an internal nomination and still collect petitions for a nomination, I respect that).  Voting members once they get their ballot will typical shun those who make the ballot by petition only because they have not been vetted by the NRA. I will have to write (with some help , captain dyslexia) a strong bio and hope people remember what happened in Colorado in 2013. I am building a strong "like" base on Facebook, seeking a few endorsements and working other ad forms to. I will beef up the web page and see what February when the ballots mail out brings.

So someone asked me a few questions and I thought best to answer a few of them here too:

Did you seek the internal nomination from the nominating committee?

I did explore this option and I did converse with a former nominating committee chair and a few other board members. I was told that frankly I was an unknown and unlikely to get the support of the committee. I am white and male, so the math looks bad. Women and minorities are a shoes in. Their words not mine by the way.  I did not see this as anything more than I have not had a chance to prove myself to them. Okay I have to earn it, all right then I will.  I wrote a note to President of the NRA, Mr. Porter, volunteering to serve on the grassroots committee no matter the outcome of the election this next year. I did get a note back, but no mention of my offer. I will see him in person in September, I intend to make the same offer again.

Okay so you get on the Board and we are never going to see you again right? You will sit there and ride it out, take the perks etc.

I don't think of serving on the board as a feather in my cap, I am not by nature a guy who likes to be at the front of the room. But stuff needs doing and I am that guy and I have the time. I will always run by petition, I will always go to gun shows and take the I hate the NRA heat. In fact over time more than a few of you will meet me and I will be glad of it. I am not going to hide. You will see me at Friends of the NRA dinners in as many states as I can make, shooting for two new states every year. Annual meetings for sure and I am working on an angle for said meetings and Friday get together every year.

I will be 45 next year and if I am luck to earn a spot on the board next April I will serve until I am 60 and I will not run again. I want to get some stuff done with a few key programs and really work on finding good people who have the time to follow me. Find a few replacements as it were. I might still help on committees, but I will make room for fresh folks. Members of the board are entitled to compensation for travel and food if they can't afford it and some great board members I know are not well off, but they brilliant board members and I would not knock them for a second (they are really getting it done). I on the other hand have done okay and I don't have take the reimbursement, I never will. I would rather it be used for those that need it. I have included the NRA in my will, but I have delayed instructions until after the election so no one thinks I bought my way in.  I was taught to earn everything and continue to prove your worth. Never believe your press or that you are any better, different maybe (aren't we all), be useful or get out of the way.

I look forward to meeting as many of you as I can over the years and it would be even better if it was shooting somewhere. Thank you for all of your support, I will not let you down ...

So like me on Facebook (public figure page, thrilled about that I was ) and visit my website www.knight4nra.com

And since I am so happy to be a public person (NOT) please visit my Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/knight4nra

Every nomination and vote matters to me, I don't mind earning it. I expect nothing for free. I spent the weekend at a gun show in ABQ, NM and I got 25 signatures. If it was about the money and the yield of signatures that might considered an epic fail. But I want members no matter their status, voting or not, to know that the I care about what they are saying no matter their state. Few board members do this, I respect those that do. I will always stand in front of the members at gun show and event all over the country as long as I serve on the board.

I got news that the NRA nominating committee has approved 29 candidates by way of an internal nomination for the 25 available board seats.

I will not be on this list. I was told very early on that I would not be getting the internal nomination as I do not fit into one of the strategic needs of the NRA. I am not an attorney, captain of industry, nor will I fill a role that they believe they need.  Understand this is not Wayne La Pierre or Chris Cox or the management structure, this is a reflection of the board. The members, or more specifically the voting members, of the NRA have the final say on who represents them. I am and have always been running by way of a petition. If I am lucky enough to beat the extreme odds to even get on the ballot and then get elected I want the members to know two things beyond my results past and future.

1.) I will always run by petition and stand in front of the members at gun shows all over the country (not just in my home state). I was taught at a young age to earn things, expect nothing. And if you earn it you need to continue to prove your worth or get out of the way.  No handouts needed, expected or desired. The members deserve to know more of there directors and express their concerns in person. It is a national position of responsibility and I very much understand that. Even if I were to receive the internal nomination in the future I will still run by petition.

2.) I will be 45 next year. If am able to push through and get a seat I will serve, make a difference and vacate the seat when I turn 60. I might still serve on a committee, but I want to make room for new people. I will always be on the look out for those to follow me and work to find my replacements and encourage others push against the odds.

My official answer from my website as to why I am not seeking the internal nomination:

WHY ARE YOU SEEKING A PETITION OF THE MEMBERS RATHER THAN THE APPROVAL OF THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR THE 2015 BALLOT?

I believe that the members of the National Rifle Association are the most important part of the Association and I will always seek their approval by way of a member nomination while serving on the Board.  Rarely do people who only seek such “nomination from the members” gain a Board seat but I never take the easy way out and NRA members deserve that degree of respect if I am asking them for support.  They have already seen my efforts (please read my bio) and I hope that I can earn both their nomination and later their vote on the 2015 ballot.

As for the NRA nominating committee, I would consider it an honor to have proven myself to our current Board members but I have not yet had the opportunity to work with many of them and so I have not sought the committee’s recommendation.  Though I would gladly welcome their individual support, they are limited to recommending twenty-five people and I believe I am unlikely draw approval away from an established board member.

Being effective in justifying my message and gaining member nomination will be hard work but worth doing.  I would be humbled and honored to serve and would do so tirelessly - our Republic deserves nothing less.  I hope both the NRA's members and leadership can see the strength of my work for the Second Amendment and envision the success I can bring our Association as a ceaseless and effective proponent.

I understand strategic interests and they've shown their appreciation but... still.

Ah, well.  Uphill both ways.  In the snow.

Fingers crossed!

You got my vote.  Good luck and I believe you would be strategic to the NRA despite what the board says.  Men like you probably intimidate the lawyers and captains of industry that currently sit but maybe they have sat for too long.

Had a nice time in Phoenix, AZ at the gun show this last weekend. I got about 20 signatures. I met many great NRA members and 2nd Amendment advocates.  Joined the Arizona Citizen Defense League as a Life Member too. Many states can learn about to getting stuff done from the good folks in AZ.

I love that you do that with everything good

I will be mailing my signatures today.

PS - You should consider joining the NY State Rifle and Pistol Association.  We are actually the oldest civil rights group in the United States (older than the NRA).  And we are funding a lawsuit against the "SAFE Act."  Just another measure of support for the Second Amendment to add to your long list  It's $25 for a year.

I am a member, just not a lifer. That is coming too. As for the SAFE act, I know they are right there and that has to go!

Overdue bump

I was in Virginia last weekend with my brothers from the recall and I did short interview, with bolt face logo on, last Friday.

To the 2nd shift of Liberty ...making a difference.


http://www.nranews.com/cam/video/tim-knight-nra-ila-jay-m-littlefield-memorial-volunteer-of-the-year-award

Good interview. Way to represent! I hope you got my nomination, I would have added more names but time was short. Let me know what else I can do to help.

Spread the word.... all I could ask for and I really appreciate it.

What is the last day you need to receive the petitions back?  Your letter said Sept 15th but in this thread you said you have to the end of September.

After 15th I am directing all new petitions sent from me with a return envelope to the NRA instead of back to me. Everyone with a return envelopes addressed to me should still send to me, but new ones will include a different envelope.

I was verifying information with the NRA and counting, so I could know how many I had and if they were valid. When sending to the NRA I will not know either. The September 15th date was just to poke folks to get it done and so I can know where I was. About 55 % petitions lines sent to me are not valid so I am returning them to the collector/ person nominating if possible. The packets I am sending out are coming back with almost perfect validity because folks see the two "sign here" flags on each petition and they are sent on correctly printed paper, this eliminated two of the five most common problems with petition validity. The petition system is designed to fail and trust me I know how infuriating this all is . Some very, very smart people I know are not getting it right and everyone is well intensioned, but the direction are vital. I am thankful for every single nomination and I will go far beyond to get one good petition nomination, they are that important. I have had more that a few phone conversation with ARFCOMERs to talk them through it.

Errors mostly eliminated by me sending packets:

1. Not seeing or following directions: needs to have two areas filled out on the nomination sheet. "Name of Person Circulating Peition" & data in the numbered rows
2. Printed incorrectly: needs to be on legal paper in the horizontal orientation covering the whole page. Many come on legal paper, but not covering the whole page.

Errors that still continue:
3. Can't read the data
4. Wrong data: address must match NRA records perfectly. Name exactly as it appears in NRA records (Middle initial or name?). Or not including the whole membership number (the number must exactly match the membership card with all of the included zeros (if applicable), but to add to the confusion the magazine adds zeros which are not correct)
5. People thinking they are voting members, but are not. A phone call to the NRA to check by the member is the only way to confirm. Life and above members are good to go.

By collecting them and verifying I can get a ball park idea from the NRA by way of a phone call how the validity is going. I am allowed a 10 min call per day to check the data. They ask for a zip and then name, they confirm with a membership number if the first two things I give them are correct. They do not confirm the address, but when officially counted they do check this and/or  if they can't read it or it does not match it still get tossed. They will not tell me if the person is in fact a voting member either, so that is part of the issues as well.

So that is why I need so many petitions and why I was pushing to get folks to get them back by the 15th. I will take them anyway I can get them, but knowing is better. As friend said I should run for congress because it is easier ......

Anyway..... Thank you all for the support and understanding.

I had a guy sign a petition but he didn't know his member id. Are you able to get that through the phone call you mentioned?

Yep I can, if it is sent to me. Or you send me his data via IM and I can verify it with them and then send the number back to you. You can then send it to the NRA directly.

And thank you VERY much for the extra support and effort!!!

From another thread:



I hesitate to share this as several people are rubbing their hands together in joy over my expected failure, some reading this thread with interest in fact, but ARFCOM has continued to be well of support, so here it is .......

I have about collected about 500 nominations as of Friday.

Some are now being sent directly to the NRA and I will not know if they are valid or ever sent. Just folks word and I am going to have to be good with that and I am thankful.

With an estimated validity rate of 48.6% of the ones I have collected the math is very close.

I need 250 valid. So I am close, but I still need to push & why I hope everyone gets them in.

Everyone nomination counts.

I still have work to do and I have not stopped since the minute the "NRA annual meeting of the members" ended at the NRA annual meeting in April.
I have collected here, guns shows in several states as well as through friends, family and my recall bothers. I have received tremendous support here, as did the Colorado recalls.

So I am close, but I still need to push & why I hope everyone gets them in.

Everyone nomination counts.

Many want me to fail to get on the ballot ...... and I am suppose to fail running this way. Despite the fact that I was told I had two other things against me (male and "another white guy") besides the petition nomination, I do feel that I have a decent shot if I get on the ballot. It seems that the Colorado recalls are a story almost every NRA member has heard. I don't expect to be given anything and I will always earn it, but that story helps. It is funny , that several people have claimed the idea in news stories and still others have in fact been given awards based on my work and that of my recall brothers. We were to focused on Liberty and winning to claim credit. I can't wait for the book...... , oh yeah that is coming .....

Allow me to offer this commentary if that is, in fact, the case.  Fuck you, you gutless, traitorous quisling, whoever you are.  You think this is some sort of fucking antebellum boys' club?  This is a fight.  It's a goddamned war over our rights - a whole lot further-reaching than just our second amendment - and we need to treat it that way.  If you won't fight with us or help a real fighter get inside striking distance, at least have the dignity and honor to simply stay out of the way.

I know I'm late but I forgot all about getting this mailed.

If I can get it in the mail tomorrow should I still send it to you or the NRA address on the bottom of the form?

It'll just be my signature, but hope it will still help.

At this point send it to the NRA on the bottom of the form. I will take the support anyway I can get it and thanks!

+1



Love to see a name and shame in public on who's thinks it's an all boys club and decide you didn't fit their image.





 

I have come to the end of outgoing mail as of Friday morning. All the packets that will make it in time will be in the mail.

All incoming mail sent to me should be in my hands no later than Monday of next week. I will be overnighting the last batch to the NRA then.

If you have not sent it yet (or you have an envelope address to the NRA) please mail directly to the NRA address on the bottom of the nomination.

I should have an answer back from the NRA by the end of October if I made the ballot. I need every nomination I can get. I will let you know as soon as I find out.

And then I can begin phase two, running for the seat. More to come ... Full and exciting plans coming..... Grassroots political action

Humbled beyond words my fellow members, friends and brothers (sisters too). I will not let our side down .....I could not have gotten this far without your help.

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So I called the NRA this morning to confirm that they had received my most recent box of nominations and started the counting.

You guys, my travels and the efforts many ...... Well frankly we "crushed it." My last count was 767 and that does not include those who sent their nominations directly to the NRA. I will be on the 2015 NRA board of directors ballot! Oh yeah! Again I am humbled and I will continue to earn it.

So what is next?

Please look for your NRA Board of directors ballot in your NRA magazine in early 2015 (or by mail if you get an electronic copy of the magazine), Please select Timothy Knight among your preferred candidates. You do not need to vote for all 25 board of director seats. In fact, fewer votes on the ballot will increase your preferred candidates chances of election. Many are deserving, but you get to choose who represents you.

And what am I doing?

I am getting ready to jump into another state right before the general election and work with a few groups to be a grassroots surprise package. More on that right before it happens, but it appears that the Colorado recalls have had an impact/influence nationally and I am glad to make a difference where our rights takers do not expect me. I am but an example and I hope to meet many others ......

Again, thank you all. . The power of ARFCOM May those who can not figure us out

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more........."

Congrats! Looking forward to the next stage!

Congrats. Look forward to voting for you. As of right now I will only be voting for two people in the ballot

That is excellent news.  I look forward to voting for you.

wow, excellent news tim, congrats!!!!

i'm an endowment member and will be pleased to cast a vote for you!!!

I'll fo

Awesome Tim, all your hard work paid off.  Next move is to punch this into the endzone.



Call if you need anything, you have my info.



 

Anyone who really wants to elect OP should use their vote in the most efficient way and that is to vote ONLY for you -- and no one else.

Every vote for additional candidates, no matter how worthy, reduces the chance that OP will be elected.



 

Amazing, you have my vote.  We need people such as yourself to represent us.  Genuine representation, not empty suits.

That's awesome Tim, congrats!  I felt really pretty bad about only sending that nomination form back with my name and signature on it.  I tried to get others locally to do it, but they either weren't eligible or were impossible to get together with.  I'm glad to see that despite that, you did kill it and get loads of support to get on the ballot.

As I said already, you've got my vote on the ballot come next year.  You'll be the only one voted for, which hopefully will help your chances some more.  I don't know any of the other candidates and frankly, I really don't care.  You're the one taking loads of action here and showing resolve, grit, and determination and I love it.  Good luck Sir

I know two current NRA Board members, one with a very strong public voice. (both are extremely hardcore, and frankly largely terrifying to many of the other members of the board.)  I will make sure they're aware.

ETA: I am ashamed I had zero confidence in your crew & stated it publicly when it counted, but am glad I was 100% WRONG.

The election will be interesting as I will NOT be an insider (not nominated by committee) and if I get a seat that means someone on this years ballot will lose their seat. I don't look this as personal and I am not saying anything negative about anyone, nor will I as long as they just run their own program. I look forward to making a difference NRA board seat or not, I will. If I do succeed: I will always run by petition, meet members nation wide and I am term limiting my self before I even begin (45 next April, out of a seat when I turn 60). I want to make room for others.



Well brother we were not suppose to win. We verbalized that on our first real conference call, but we had to try. In fact we had to earn it and I am okay with that. I began talking to the NRA about the recalls in Feb2013 and one of the first things I told them was just that. "Let's see if the people of Colorado want this, the odds are very long as these things never pan out. It has never happened in Colorado." I told them to keep their distance and not devote to much until we had an election. So I spend 6 month briefing them two and three times a week and when an election was scheduled after many obstacles we had an ally. We happened to have the right team (ARFCOMERS all and total strangers) and we were able to succeed despite both internal and external problem. So looking at the odds...... yeah no one was going to be able to devote the right amount of time and crazy amont resources to make that work. If you had asked me if we were going to succeed, I would have given long odds. But we did somehow pull it off. We did not always know what we were doing, but way more often we did or we were able to counter with something that "they" had never thought of before. We were so busy making things happen, fixing things, or scrambling we did not even have time to deal with problems we knew would come back to us personally. In fact others straight up took the credit while we were still working. RMGO had money (did anyone ever win that jeep?) so they ran ads while we fought new election laws being changed under our feet (good thing we got them changed back, they are still try to figure that one out ). One guy who costs us tons of dollars (personal funds were used to fix this never from fund raising), time, legal expenses and he even resigned 30 days before the election because he was afraid of the liability of the election. He was recently given an award for founding the recalls and having a great idea . So far from the truth and we just stood their and took it. It was not about awards but we became an example of the impossible. If that gets others to give back instead of give in and think that they don't matter, then what we did worked.

The story does not seem to be going away and politics might change. That is if people get off the couch, but if we were able to provide one of the sparks that light the flame that works for me. The story as a whole is truly being written, not to make us famous but to share the "impossible" with others. The primary author is a member here, my NRA nomination board sponsor and brother from recalls whom I would give blood. In fact he will shortly be launching a website and starting a business/publishing house of sorts to launch the book when it is ready. This first thing posted their will be a short(ish) article originally writen for another publication about Victor Head (Giron Recall) and myself. Nothing more than a few guys who were told you will never do that......

Like you said "I am 100% glad I was wrong." Me too.  And out to earn it again......

Understood, but if I can help make them understand that it was you & crew that was so effective, (if they are not already aware...) it will absolutely not hurt to have their support.
One was, uh, rumored to have been booted from the Republican Club years ago for openly advocating Constitutional punishment for treason & was actively opposed by many current board members during his election effort as an "extremist."
Both were professional, decorated commie removers.

I feel terrible that I actually opposed you in your efforts; you've more than proved yourselves essential to our future.

Good luck, & Sic Semper Tyrannus.

Not a voting-life-member, so just a bump for more folks to see.  Good luck!

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And a reminder, for those who forgot about somebody else who wants to run in 2015:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1564684__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Brandon_Webb_2015_NRA_board_seat___wolf_in_sheep_s_clothing____UPDATE_PG_6.html&page=1





https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-Brandon-Webb-from-Undermining-the-2nd-Amendment/492136717565639

Well done people!  Good luck Tim.

Woo Hoo!!!!






 

That fucker is going nowhere. Nowhere.

I am sitting here, smiling smugly.  Fuck.  Yeah.  Congratulations, Tim.

Thanks for the effort on this, I love allies and people who want to get stuff done. Hard chargers and I get along just fine. The problem is that many don't know the whole/real story. Like I said, the NRA gave their top volunteer award to a turd. I don't blame the NRA, yes they should have done a better job on their homework. Some in the NRA know the deal and others just know what they are told/read. It is tough to blame anyone, we were purposely set up to be a very confusing to figure out. That had other problems clearly, but it allowed us to stay legal and win.

I would be glad to make allies and I do play well with others. I only part ways with others when they screw me and then I never take my eyes off the bouncing ball, ever. Neutral works with me as well if people don't want to engage. Most board members fall here, works for me. Some are/were trying to talk me down and quietly leaving things unsaid, but I am well aware of who they are. This is politics I get it and hey maybe they could be an ally if they reached out. And the membership get to decide our value to them, I am okay with that.



Sound like my kind of people. I am not on many peoples favorite list in either political party in Colorado as I had to fight them all and I could not be bought. I have been helping several candidates and sheriff races here, but neither of the major candidates for Federal Senate or Govenor will go near me. They have been told to stay away from me by the state Republican chair because I called him out. The bigger person would do whatever was needed for Colorado. I am still receptive to helping and have reached out. Oh well, I will work wherever my example can be used to get our people involved. More to come on that.



All good brother. Let's have drinks at the annual meeting, it is water up under the bridge.  Thanks for your encouragement, I will make a difference.

And not for a moment would I have even gone down this road had you not been supportive and encouraged me to do this.