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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:15:37 AM EDT
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I wouldnt buy one, but its no uglier than those disgusting jap shit boxes. I wouldnt buy anything from the Japs either.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:16:20 AM EDT
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Looks unimpressive and ordinary.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:17:10 AM EDT
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Interesting stuff here: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tag/cruze/ If the Jetta ends up being cheaper, I think a lot of the market is going to go that route.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UJA_vO-N10
hell I'm GaHey I like VWs... Want to see my Miata! 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:17:12 AM EDT
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I'll stick with the Civic for a small car.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:18:19 AM EDT
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Interesting stuff here: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tag/cruze/ If the Jetta ends up being cheaper, I think a lot of the market is going to go that route. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UJA_vO-N10
hell I'm GaHey I like VWs... Want to see my Miata! Ive always liked the monster miata..  so there.. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:20:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: tell me again what is supposed to be great about it? Well ..... It is a quality car that is affordable to most Americans..... that gets 40 mpg..... and is made in the USA by Americans...... but most importantly it seems to piss most of you off. Isn't it just a rebadged Daewoo?  ETA: Yep Daewoo Lacetti = Chevy Cruze. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:22:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:23:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'll stick with the Civic for a small car. BigDozer66 For what it's worth, Base prices for the Cruze’s main competitors are $16,200 for a Corolla, $16,415 for a Civic, $16,095 for a Mazda3, $16,170 for a Sentra, $17,040 for a Focus, the new Jetta will be priced starting "around $16,000" $14,865 for an Elantra, and $14,390 for a Forte (including typical destination fees). The cruze starts at $16,995 That was noted on the site I linked earlier, and I'm guessing this is 2010 pricing (except for the Jetta). |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:25:28 AM EDT
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A subsidiary of GM since 1931. I wouldn't drive one of their crappy cars either (although some of the pre-1970 examples look pretty cool). Holden actually makes some badass cars. 
Four door sedan with a 6.0l v8 and made of sex. Except in America we only get the shit fucking compact cars. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:27:16 AM EDT
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don't want, don't care. i will not willingly give my money to socialists. they already take enough of it under the color of law with the threat of violence.
eta: OP, thanks for your weekly GM press release. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:29:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: tell me again what is supposed to be great about it? Well ..... It is a quality car yet to be tested/proven car that is affordable to most Americans has a cheap base model..... that gets 40 mpg that will have a model with no performance that only gets 40mpg ..... and is made in the USA by Americans...... not going to touch this one but most importantly it seems to piss most of you off. I just took a look at the specs. Base engine is 136hp, Turbo engine is...138hp. The base models are rated at 36mpg, however they have a 5th model of the Cruze that seems to be its only function is to be rated at 40mpg, but isn't available yet. ETA: I guess what is great about it is that Chevy is getting closer to hitting the mark compared to other makes. Not quite there yet though. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:31:00 AM EDT
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We need more tiny ghey cars that I cannot fit into YAY!
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:32:47 AM EDT
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Not to shit on your job Chevyguy85, but fuck GM and fuck obama. They will never see a single cent of my money for as long as I live.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:33:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: A subsidiary of GM since 1931. I wouldn't drive one of their crappy cars either (although some of the pre-1970 examples look pretty cool). Holden actually makes some badass cars. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8197/800px20092010holdenveco.jpg Four door sedan with a 6.0l v8 and made of sex. Except in America we only get the shit fucking compact cars. Why am I reading that it's not a Holden? Now that Chevy’s next small thing has had its teething pains, the Daewoo-developed compact is being shown in a dizzying array of trims and packages for the US market. And from Wiki: Underpinned by the front-wheel drive GM Delta II platform, GM said the Cruze was "developed by a global design and engineering team".[20] Most of the design work was conducted by GM Daewoo, with Opel responsible for most of the engineering.[20][21] This development program spanned over 27 months at a cost of US$4 billion. A total of 221 prototypes were tested in Australia, Canada, China, South Korea, Sweden, the United Kingdom and the United States.[22] This seems to have nothing to do with Holden whatsoever, other than wearing it's nameplate in the Aussie market. The first generation, the original Cruze was derived from the subcompact Suzuki Ignis (known the Suzuki Swift in Japan).[1][2] The development of the Cruze departed from the original five-door hatchback Suzuki as a sport utility vehicle (SUV), using either the front- or four-wheel drive layout.[3][4] Despite the Chevrolet branding, the YGM1, like the production car, was the work of GM's Australian arm, Holden.[5][6] Along with the styling, Holden also executed most of the engineering work and were responsible for devising the "Cruze" nameplate.[1] This here is a different vehicle as images clearly seem to indicate. Now that we have that all cleared up... |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:37:02 AM EDT
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A subsidiary of GM since 1931. I wouldn't drive one of their crappy cars either (although some of the pre-1970 examples look pretty cool). Holden actually makes some badass cars. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8197/800px20092010holdenveco.jpg Four door sedan with a 6.0l v8 and made of sex. Except in America we only get the shit fucking compact cars. Well, that car was available in the US as the Pontiac G8 GT, which as we all know got canned. But you're right, that one does seem pretty cool in my completely uninformed opinion. It even had an optional six speed manual transmission. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:40:13 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:42:15 AM EDT
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it's officially on sale and has begun shipping to dealerships as of today. You will be seeing tons of them on the road soon. Love or hate gm, this car is awesome, I hope it sells well and keeps me working. Dear corolla commericial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXQy2b0mG50&feature=related You don't need it to sell to keep yourself working. The tax payers will pick up the slack.  Working is for suckers anyway. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:43:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: Looks unimpressive and ordinary. So, they copied Toyota then? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:43:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. well with that logic on your car buying I'll throw this in the mix......go buy a Ford Focus. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:44:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: imitation is the best form of flattery? Quoted: Looks unimpressive and ordinary. So, they copied Toyota then? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:44:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. well with that logic on your car buying I'll throw this in the mix......go buy a Ford Focus. I agree 100%, I never said I would buy a GM, not until it is back in the private sector. I would support Ford all the way. I should have been more clear. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:44:57 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. What you're saying is, buying a modern car is a big bag of dicks. Pick your color and swallow. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:45:17 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. yes.. because they have a better offering.. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:46:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Looks unimpressive and ordinary. So, they copied Toyota then? For what it's worth, which of it's competition looks impressive and unordinary? All looks more or less the same to me. I like the styling of Mazdas and Nissans, but they aren't all that different. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:47:08 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. Given that my money is going to be going to socialists in any event, I'd prefer to pay the ones that make a reliable vehicle that isn't a falling-apart piece of depreciated, recycled dogshit. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:47:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. yes.. because they have a better offering.. No wonder this country is in the shitter. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:47:28 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise your protectionist rant? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:48:38 AM EDT
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I'll never support GM with my $$$. Looks like a crap box anyway.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:49:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. Given that my money is going to be going to socialists in any event, I'd prefer to pay the ones that make a reliable vehicle that isn't a falling-apart piece of depreciated, recycled dogshit. Oh I get it, you would rather "supposedly" buy a better made car from a possible foreign enemy, even if it means harm to the country that you love? Wow, just wow. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:49:17 AM EDT
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What an incredibly stupid commercial. I bet they spent millions on it. Sounds like they paid Tim Allen to do the voiceover. Yes....Chevy has signed TA to do commercials for them now....kinda like Mike Rowe and Ford. He does the Pure Michigan commercials also. Nice that he cares about his home state, but he's selling out by hustling for Govt Motors. If he cares about his home state, how can it be selling out? It's a large company employing a lot of people in his state. I don't like what GM has done recently but I'd still help them out if they were based in Oklahoma. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:50:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: I never said they didnt, but the fact remains the still employ thousands and thousands of Americans right here in the good ol US of A. Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise protectionist rant? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:50:57 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise protectionist rant? this One of my co-workers was quite proud of his american made Chevy avalanche, then he found it was made in mexico. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:51:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. I own 2 "Jap" cars and a Ford truck. In case you haven't checked lately many of those "Jap" cars are built right here in the US. Having said that, I don't think its possible to buy any 100% US produced vehicle. If GM fails so be it, they made the business decisions that got them where they are they should have to deal with the consequences. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:51:41 AM EDT
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I never said they didnt, but the fact remains the still employ thousands and thousands of Americans right here in the good ol US of A.
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise protectionist rant? And so do Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Hyundai. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:51:43 AM EDT
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Without bringing in a bunch of GM-hate...
1) What is the main competition of this car? 2) What are the price points of the competition? 3) What are the compelling features of this car to set it apart from the competition? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:51:46 AM EDT
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Isnt this heap of shit just a rebaged Pontiac G6 with a different interior?
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:52:02 AM EDT
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I never said they didnt, but the fact remains the still employ thousands and thousands of Americans right here in the good ol US of A.
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise protectionist rant? so do a lot of foreign car makers. Which is better a Toyota made in America or a Ford made in Mexico? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:52:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: that is true, however GM still employs 140,000 + people here in the USA.Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. American workers? GM has a nasty habit of producing "American" cars in foreign countries for US consumption. Care to revise protectionist rant? this One of my co-workers was quite proud of his american made Chevy avalanche, then he found it was made in mexico. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:52:57 AM EDT
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This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. Given that my money is going to be going to socialists in any event, I'd prefer to pay the ones that make a reliable vehicle that isn't a falling-apart piece of depreciated, recycled dogshit. Oh I get it, you would rather "supposedly" buy a better made car from a possible foreign enemy, even if it means harm to the country that you love? Wow, just wow. At this point, I'd argue that GM and their union parasites are in a position to do far more harm to the country than Japanese firms, who still have to compete in our market and garner the goodwil of their customers. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:53:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:53:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Sure, a lot of toyotas are made here in the US. But most of the profits still go back overseas and out of our economy and into the hands of our competitors.Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. I own 2 "Jap" cars and a Ford truck. In case you haven't checked lately many of those "Jap" cars are built right here in the US. Having said that, I don't think its possible to buy any 100% US produced vehicle. If GM fails so be it, they made the business decisions that got them where they are they should have to deal with the consequences. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:54:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. Given that my money is going to be going to socialists in any event, I'd prefer to pay the ones that make a reliable vehicle that isn't a falling-apart piece of depreciated, recycled dogshit. Oh I get it, you would rather "supposedly" buy a better made car from a possible foreign enemy, even if it means harm to the country that you love? Wow, just wow. Its pretty hard to argue that GM makes a better small car then anyone else. I don't think I've ever heard anyone tell me how wonderful their Cavalier or Cobalt was. Even questionable cars (IMO) like VW's and Land Rovers have plenty of owners who never have problems with them. Besides, the whole where is you money going thing doesn't work that well anymore. Even Kia's are made in Georgia now! And I wouldn't get to worried about calling South Korean's our enemy.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:55:25 AM EDT
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Have had two Chevrolet's and will never own another one both of them were s––=-.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:56:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Sure, a lot of toyotas are made here in the US. But most of the profits still go back overseas and out of our economy and into the hands of our competitors.Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. I own 2 "Jap" cars and a Ford truck. In case you haven't checked lately many of those "Jap" cars are built right here in the US. Having said that, I don't think its possible to buy any 100% US produced vehicle. If GM fails so be it, they made the business decisions that got them where they are they should have to deal with the consequences. They're a publicly traded company. Get in on the action. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:57:06 AM EDT
[#45]
My next car will probably be a chevy. I loved my last one... Never had a problem with it.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:57:15 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: well yea, but GM doesn't make a profit. And don't forget all those profits other companies make, Uncle Sam gets his 39% so we can has Obama Care! Quoted: Sure, a lot of toyotas are made here in the US. But most of the profits still go back overseas and out of our economy and into the hands of our competitors.Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. I own 2 "Jap" cars and a Ford truck. In case you haven't checked lately many of those "Jap" cars are built right here in the US. Having said that, I don't think its possible to buy any 100% US produced vehicle. If GM fails so be it, they made the business decisions that got them where they are they should have to deal with the consequences. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:57:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: Sheesh, I bet you people also believe that just because the illegals mow your lawns here the money doesnt go back to Mexico. Listen people, a majority of the profits go back overseas, not here. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. Given that my money is going to be going to socialists in any event, I'd prefer to pay the ones that make a reliable vehicle that isn't a falling-apart piece of depreciated, recycled dogshit. Oh I get it, you would rather "supposedly" buy a better made car from a possible foreign enemy, even if it means harm to the country that you love? Wow, just wow. Its pretty hard to argue that GM makes a better small car then anyone else. I don't think I've ever heard anyone tell me how wonderful their Cavalier or Cobalt was. Even questionable cars (IMO) like VW's and Land Rovers have plenty of owners who never have problems with them. Besides, the whole where is you money going thing doesn't work that well anymore. Even Kia's are made in Georgia now! And I wouldn't get to worried about calling South Korean's our enemy. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:57:56 AM EDT
[#48]
You know its bad when car ads focus on whether or not they come standard with bluetooth
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:59:00 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: well yea, but you are keeping fellow Americans employed.Quoted: well yea, but GM doesn't make a profit. And don't forget all those profits other companies make, Uncle Sam gets his 39% so we can has Obama Care! Quoted: Sure, a lot of toyotas are made here in the US. But most of the profits still go back overseas and out of our economy and into the hands of our competitors.Quoted: This whole fuck GM still confuses me. Yes its bullshit our .gov owns GM. GM employs thousands of Americans. Those of you who say fuck GM because of socialism would rather screw over American workers (even if they are union scum) and give your money to a possible foreign enemy? You would rather that money go overseas than stay in our own economy? Last time I checked Germany was one of the founders of the EU. They are socialists. You would rather give your money to the Japs? The Japs? The same people who would toss their enemies babies in the air and skewer them on their bayonets? The same Japs that committed incredible atrocities to thousands of American troops? Hell, I bet some of you guys will line up for those Chinese cars heading for our shores. I dont get it. I own 2 "Jap" cars and a Ford truck. In case you haven't checked lately many of those "Jap" cars are built right here in the US. Having said that, I don't think its possible to buy any 100% US produced vehicle. If GM fails so be it, they made the business decisions that got them where they are they should have to deal with the consequences. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 11:59:16 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Sure, a lot of toyotas are made here in the US. But most of the profits still go back overseas and out of our economy and into the hands of our competitors.
If "most" of those profits are going back overseas, how did Toyota (et al.) afford to build plants in the US? You are also aware that Toyota (et al.) are publicly traded corporations of which American investors own part, right? |
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