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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:36:49 PM EDT
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Oklahoma would take Texas with it. Mainly because we need some ports in the gulf.  Most of LA would fit in within the greater Texas co-prosperity sphere of influence. NOLA would need a good cleaning though. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:41:16 PM EDT
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While I think most native born Texans would be perfectly fine with us leaving the union; the guys in the Texas Nationalist movement are some of the dumbest mouth breathing retards around.
If the time ever comes that Texas is allowed to peaceably leave the union, these guys won't be the vanguard. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:42:54 PM EDT
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It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:45:08 PM EDT
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Most of LA would fit in within the greater Texas co-prosperity sphere of influence. NOLA would need a good cleaning though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oklahoma would take Texas with it. Mainly because we need some ports in the gulf. Most of LA would fit in within the greater Texas co-prosperity sphere of influence. NOLA would need a good cleaning though. What, Katrina wasn't enough?
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:45:24 PM EDT
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The blue cities wont let them.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:46:01 PM EDT
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One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. Are YOU gonna lead the charge to secede? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:47:23 PM EDT
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The blue cities wont let them. Texas cant or wont keep illegal aliens out, every city of any size is a sanctuary city yet they think they can take on the United States and win? This is just mental masturbation. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:55:41 PM EDT
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One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. A lot of us did last time. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:58:37 PM EDT
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Texas is one of the few that would be able to so function, though it would be a bit rough at first as certain things would have to be whomped up almost totally from scratch. Like a Navy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For that to happen, Texas would have to be able to function as an autonomous entity. If ever there were to be a Balkanization, it would have to be groups of states. Texas is one of the few that would be able to so function, though it would be a bit rough at first as certain things would have to be whomped up almost totally from scratch. Like a Navy. Lease Ports to the U.S. Navy to cover the Gulf, etc. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:06:08 PM EDT
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It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? Your education has failed you, COC violation. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:29:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas cant or wont keep illegal aliens out, every city of any size is a sanctuary city yet they think they can take on the United States and win? This is just mental masturbation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The blue cities wont let them. Texas cant or wont keep illegal aliens out, every city of any size is a sanctuary city yet they think they can take on the United States and win? This is just mental masturbation. No argument. There is no out. We're all going down with the ship. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:40:06 PM EDT
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A lot of us did last time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. A lot of us did last time. Your ancestors did. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:41:49 PM EDT
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Your ancestors did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A lot of us did last time. Your ancestors did. Maybe he was the drummer boy. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:42:01 PM EDT
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Are YOU gonna lead the charge to secede? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. Are YOU gonna lead the charge to secede? What makes you think I'm not? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:44:21 PM EDT
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A lot of us did last time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. A lot of us did last time. YOU didn't do SHIT last time. YOU won't do SHIT if it happens again. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:45:47 PM EDT
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... I just wanted to see what Arizonexit looks like in print
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:47:19 PM EDT
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... I just wanted to see what Arizonexit looks like in print A-zit |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 6:56:56 PM EDT
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A lot of us did last time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. It's not "America: 49 states and the kid that takes his ball and goes home" Ask the south, particularly, Georgia, what happened the last time some uppity states tried that shit
Or are you gonna loose your swarming democrat Austin weirdos on us? One thing for certain is YOU won't come down here to do jack or shit if it did happen. A lot of us did last time. lol How old are you? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 7:00:41 PM EDT
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Nation of Texas
Capital: Dallas Passes in First Statewide ballot: Texas, OK, KS, NE, SD, ND, MT, WYO, ID, UT, AK Passes in Second: NM, AZ Passes in Third vote: CO USS (United Southern States) Capital: Atlanta Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, SC, WVU, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, NC, (Southern VA), States that getted Fucked over because they are gutless tweeters and are left to the cesspool Indiana Ohio Pennsylvania Wisconsin MInnesota Illinois Michigan Iowa United Socialist of America Everyone Else Fringe areas, i.e. No go zones in New USA as far liberals are concerned Western Maryland, Northern Maine, Eastern Oregon, Parts of Northern California, ??? Nuclear waste Storage Nevada New Sin City Florida Basically the Big XII,SEC and Big 10. Did I miss anything? 
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Posted: 6/19/2016 7:00:55 PM EDT
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Texans would never be willing pay enough taxes to sustain themselves as an independent country.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 7:05:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2016 7:05:25 PM EDT
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Texans would never be willing pay enough taxes to sustain themselves as an independent country. Those are not Texans, and they would be free to leave. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:24:13 PM EDT
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Those are not Texans, and they would be free to leave. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Texans would never be willing pay enough taxes to sustain themselves as an independent country. Those are not Texans, and they would be free to leave. They're Americans. Some moved here, as Americans have the right to do, and invested in property, paid their taxes and contributed to American and Texan society. You really think they're gonna leave or surrender their sweat and toil without a fight? This kind of shit ranks right up there with the whiny bullshit spewed by BLM and LaRaza. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:25:42 PM EDT
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And then in a few years after texit, they'll merge with mexico
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:28:44 PM EDT
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l see this thread unfolded in a predictable manner.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:30:59 PM EDT
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And then in a few years after texit, they'll merge with mexico Former Gov. and failed presidential candidate Rick Perry laid the foundation for that. Sanctuary cities, in-state tuition for the interlopers, lobbyists pushing for them here........ |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:33:24 PM EDT
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l see this thread unfolded in a predictable manner. It did. Nation of Islam calls for separation, LaRaza calls for the return of Texas to Mexico, Bobby Ray and Jimmy Earl wanna secede.....no real difference between any of 'em. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:34:26 PM EDT
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They're Americans. Some moved here, as Americans have the right to do, and invested in property, paid their taxes and contributed to American and Texan society. You really think they're gonna leave or surrender their sweat and toil without a fight? This kind of shit ranks right up there with the whiny bullshit spewed by BLM and LaRaza. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Texans would never be willing pay enough taxes to sustain themselves as an independent country. Those are not Texans, and they would be free to leave. They're Americans. Some moved here, as Americans have the right to do, and invested in property, paid their taxes and contributed to American and Texan society. You really think they're gonna leave or surrender their sweat and toil without a fight? This kind of shit ranks right up there with the whiny bullshit spewed by BLM and LaRaza. They would be able to easily sell their property to one of the millions of people eagerly moving to Texas to get away from folks just like you. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:35:12 PM EDT
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For that to happen, Texas would have to be able to function as an autonomous entity. If ever there were to be a Balkanization, it would have to be groups of states. What are we lacking? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:39:32 PM EDT
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They would be able to easily sell their property to one of the millions of people eagerly moving to Texas to get away from folks just like you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Texans would never be willing pay enough taxes to sustain themselves as an independent country. Those are not Texans, and they would be free to leave. They're Americans. Some moved here, as Americans have the right to do, and invested in property, paid their taxes and contributed to American and Texan society. You really think they're gonna leave or surrender their sweat and toil without a fight? This kind of shit ranks right up there with the whiny bullshit spewed by BLM and LaRaza. They would be able to easily sell their property to one of the millions of people eagerly moving to Texas to get away from folks just like you. At fair market value? And if they didn't would you confiscate it? You don't know a fucking thing about me or "folks" like me," |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 8:57:01 PM EDT
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At fair market value? And if they didn't would you confiscate it? You don't know a fucking thing about me or "floks like me," Of course they would be able to sell at FMV and leave of their own free will on their own time line if they don't want to live in the Republic of Texas... I know plenty about statists like you who somehow believe that by making someone remain in "your" country by force of arms, enslaved by your convictions, that you are somehow making them free. "Floks" like you were East German Border Guards. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:05:32 PM EDT
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I don't think Texans would vote to do so.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:06:01 PM EDT
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Texas has got the London Look.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:07:41 PM EDT
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Of course they would be able to sell at FMV and leave of their own free will on their own time line if they don't want to live in the Republic of Texas... I know plenty about statists like you who somehow believe that by making someone remain in "your" country by force of arms, enslaved by your convictions, that you are somehow making them free. "Floks" like you were East German Border Guards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At fair market value? And if they didn't would you confiscate it? You don't know a fucking thing about me or "floks like me," Of course they would be able to sell at FMV and leave of their own free will on their own time line if they don't want to live in the Republic of Texas... I know plenty about statists like you who somehow believe that by making someone remain in "your" country by force of arms, enslaved by your convictions, that you are somehow making them free. "Floks" like you were East German Border Guards. Floks"like you waged war against your country to preserve the institution of slavery. Folks just like you exist in BLM, the Nation of Islam and LaRaza. Texas succeeds because its a beneficiary of being part of the whole. Guys like you think just because I believe in this country as it is, warts and all, that I'm some kind of liberal "yankee" not as noble or learned as you. This country is real fucked up right now-its been fucked up before and dissolution was not the answer. Guys like you wrap yourself up in some self righteous flag, calling for balkanization and war against your fellow Americans for not getting in line with your agenda. The only way to pull this little wet dream off is to wage a civil war within the state to subjugate those that won't surrender to your little facist ideology. You're talking about rounding up dissidents, confiscating personal and federal property, and destroying the constitution that has gotten this country this far. Good luck and good night. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:08:08 PM EDT
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I don't think Texans would vote to do so. ...if they were even allowed to vote |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:37:52 PM EDT
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Floks"like you waged war against your country to preserve the institution of slavery. Folks just like you exist in BLM, the Nation of Islam and LaRaza. Texas succeeds because its a beneficiary of being part of the whole. Guys like you think just because I believe in this country as it is, warts and all, that I'm some kind of liberal "yankee" not as noble or learned as you. This country is real fucked up right now-its been fucked up before and dissolution was not the answer. Guys like you wrap yourself up in some self righteous flag, calling for balkanization and war against your fellow Americans for not getting in line with your agenda. The only way to pull this little wet dream off is to wage a civil war within the state to subjugate those that won't surrender to your little facist ideology. You're talking about rounding up dissidents, confiscating personal and federal property, and destroying the constitution that has gotten this country this far. Good luck and good night. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At fair market value? And if they didn't would you confiscate it? You don't know a fucking thing about me or "floks like me," Of course they would be able to sell at FMV and leave of their own free will on their own time line if they don't want to live in the Republic of Texas... I know plenty about statists like you who somehow believe that by making someone remain in "your" country by force of arms, enslaved by your convictions, that you are somehow making them free. "Floks" like you were East German Border Guards. Floks"like you waged war against your country to preserve the institution of slavery. Folks just like you exist in BLM, the Nation of Islam and LaRaza. Texas succeeds because its a beneficiary of being part of the whole. Guys like you think just because I believe in this country as it is, warts and all, that I'm some kind of liberal "yankee" not as noble or learned as you. This country is real fucked up right now-its been fucked up before and dissolution was not the answer. Guys like you wrap yourself up in some self righteous flag, calling for balkanization and war against your fellow Americans for not getting in line with your agenda. The only way to pull this little wet dream off is to wage a civil war within the state to subjugate those that won't surrender to your little facist ideology. You're talking about rounding up dissidents, confiscating personal and federal property, and destroying the constitution that has gotten this country this far. Good luck and good night. The only people talking about keeping others enslaved, going to war, rounding up dissidents, and confiscating personal property is "floks" like you... |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:44:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be rather happy to live in the Republic of Texas. https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/K2c1Bd39Uopbea4trGTNAA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9MzA2O3E9OTU7dz00MDg-/http://paulhastings.me/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Texas-secession.jpg |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:45:08 PM EDT
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For that to happen, Texas would have to be able to function as an autonomous entity. If ever there were to be a Balkanization, it would have to be groups of states. I say we could coop with the Louisiana purchase and take back our old shape 
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:51:00 PM EDT
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History much?
“You can not dissolve this Union. We will put you both down; but we will not let the Union go!” Sam Houston, Father of Texas |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:56:28 PM EDT
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That's profoundly retarded. 
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:57:37 PM EDT
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if you did it, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana, would need to be immediately annexed, as well as Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, and Nuevo Leon, as you would be dealing with a large amount of immigration from other states, namely, I'd be on my way. Arizona could be invited, or just be a neighboring friendly nation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:00:50 PM EDT
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You think Mexico is just going to give up on one of it's states?
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:03:45 PM EDT
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Let me move there first. That may actually happen for me. I like where I work and my transfer options are Minneapolis or Amarillo. We have a single payer thing coming up and if it passes I'm fucking out. Sooo you Texans tell me about Amarillo. 
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:09:34 PM EDT
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I would fully support such an effort, provided it orginates from either a vote in the Legislature or from the Governors Desk.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas is one of the few that would be able to so function, though it would be a bit rough at first as certain things would have to be whomped up almost totally from scratch. Like a Navy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For that to happen, Texas would have to be able to function as an autonomous entity. If ever there were to be a Balkanization, it would have to be groups of states. Texas is one of the few that would be able to so function, though it would be a bit rough at first as certain things would have to be whomped up almost totally from scratch. Like a Navy. Why would we need a navy? I assume that you mean a blue water navy and I can't really think of why we would need one. I seriously doubt projecting power would be on our list of things to worry about year 1-4. I figure that the biggest things would be the border, repatriation of those who don't want to secede and the influx of fed up conservatives that would be moving in. Can you imagine the tax headaches for those that don't want to be Texans trying to sell their houses in what used to be the US and how that would affect them back in the old US? Not to mention, if we did sue for secession I would imagine that OK would come with us and maybe some more of the deep south. The headaches of the government would be epic for a few years while everything was sorted out. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:13:30 PM EDT
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Go away Texas!
But don't forget to take back those lands that were originally part of Texas. I'll be happy to fly the lone star flag on m y property.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHell, we shouldn't have to secede, you should kick us out for embarrassing you. Everyone in the state who is embarrassed by it would find welcoming, open arms from you, right? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:17:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You ever give a spatula and strainer with a bunch of potatoes to a retard and tell him he's a good chef? That's what we're doing with Pat Toomey. We're all proud he's a politician, but really, we just let him pretend he's doing something. Meanwhile, former Mexican colony Texas has this piece of shit: https://regularrightguy.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/clown.png?w=547 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any "nation" that is embarrassed by Texas needs to rethink some things. Obviously you would be better off without us. To be fair, Cornyn is mildly retarded while Pat Toomey is a flaming fucktard. You ever give a spatula and strainer with a bunch of potatoes to a retard and tell him he's a good chef? That's what we're doing with Pat Toomey. We're all proud he's a politician, but really, we just let him pretend he's doing something. Meanwhile, former Mexican colony Texas has this piece of shit: https://regularrightguy.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/clown.png?w=547 I wonder what she and the rest of her ilk would do if we did secede? Might be worth it just to get them to leave. She can take Wendy Davis, the Castro brothers and the Austin City Council with her. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:23:58 PM EDT
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I've listened to the Texas brag for over 30 years now. This latest idiocy about seceding from the United States takes the cake. Rick Perry was the governor here for 15 years, employed by the voters of Texas. In that time he enabled the nation of Mexico to invade this state while the residents as a whole sat idly by. Sanctuary cities, in state tuition for illegals, a rejection of Arizona's SB 1070. I've known a lot of good ol' Texas boys that hire illegals, with the justification “they're just doing jobs Americans won't do.” I've seen the destruction of neighborhoods, I've seen packed emergency rooms, I've witnessed multiple crimes committed by these cockroaches tacitly invited by the citizens of the Lone Star State. Two weeks ago tonight a very good friend of mine was killed when an “undocumented immigrant” crossed the center line and hit him head on.
Now I read in this thread that a segment of the Texas populace wants to secede from the United States, when they haven't resisted the invasion from a foreign nation. Posters right here in this thread posit that the United States is a bigger threat to their way of life than that 3rd world nation that borders the state. You ol' boys want a fight, you better look south, because that's where the real threat is. Of course fighting them wouldn't avenge your loss from 1865. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I think most native born Texans would be perfectly fine with us leaving the union; the guys in the Texas Nationalist movement are some of the dumbest mouth breathing retards around. If the time ever comes that Texas is allowed to peaceably leave the union, these guys won't be the vanguard. This is very true and is a real shame. It's hard to have an adult discussion about what it would take and the pros/cons of leaving would be when you have sovereign citizen types running their mouths. It's fun to think about but I don't think we are at that point yet. If we go, it would most likely start a cascade signaling the end of the republic and the start of real balkanization. A truly federal system of government with a greatly reduced in size and scope .fedgov would end the vast majority of these discussions. |
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