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Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:18:42 PM EST
[#1]
Don’t worry guys Trump will make sure this doesn’t get enforced.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:19:41 PM EST
[#2]
Let the VA governor know what you think

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Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:20:03 PM EST
[#3]
CoC.  CoC.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:20:30 PM EST
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Yep.  We need to call, email and write our legislators more and ask nicely to keep our rights.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:20:38 PM EST
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Im not a rocket scientist .. .. but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn , and I am pretty sure it's almost " fo " time in Virginia .
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Coming from a New Yorker, that is saying something.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:21:03 PM EST
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The Communists are doubling down on protecting their enclave of passing Marxists laws.

Disarmament and controlling groups of dissidents.

Lenin would be so proud.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:21:54 PM EST
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
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1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to  30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to  30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
Who gets to define?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:22:04 PM EST
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VA’s going fucking full retard
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FPNI
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:25:04 PM EST
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If it ends up successful here in VA, you are damn right they will.
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Wow...This is complete bullshit.

They'll do this state by state.
If it ends up successful here in VA, you are damn right they will.
A lot of bills didn't make it out of committee this last time in WA. It looks like they're trying for another high capacity mag ban for us. No more than 10 rounds. This shit is out of control and they're not going to stop.

They smartened up and realized they can't get anything done on a federal level. They have the help of Mr. Bloomberg and Soros.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:25:37 PM EST
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This is treason to Virginia's own constitution, pretty much word for word.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:26:51 PM EST
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Im not a rocket scientist .. .. but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn , and I am pretty sure it's almost " fo " time in Virginia .
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2 years ago I would have spoke Candid about that subject. Unfortunately the site has changed.

Make ARFCOM Great Again
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:26:53 PM EST
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This is treason to Virginia's own constitution, pretty much word for word.
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Federal gun laws are the same to the US Constitution makes no difference.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:28:24 PM EST
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"Technique capable of causing injury or death to persons". Looks as if no one will be taught how to drive a car after this.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:30:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:31:17 PM EST
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2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
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I can see how that could quickly apply to any regular pistol range or rifle range.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:31:45 PM EST
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To be clear, this law is already on the books.  It is just looking to add paragraph 3 from the OP.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:32:06 PM EST
[#17]
Are they doing this so the ghetto goblins of VA have free reign?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:32:07 PM EST
[#18]
Holy fuck

Overton window shifting yet again. They'll 'compromise' for something that gets them halfway to this heinous bullshit.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:33:52 PM EST
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"Technique capable of causing injury or death to persons". Looks as if no one will be taught how to drive a car after this.
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Looks like they've outlawed all martial arts schools, boxing gyms,  and intramural wrestling too.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:36:27 PM EST
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Something, something, tree of Liberty...
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:36:49 PM EST
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It looks like it's time.  Just waiting at this point for the booger loop to commence.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:37:03 PM EST
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The bill's chief patron; Senator L. Louise Lucas

Does someone who's represented by her want to contact her office and explain that poor, Black and Latino communities would be disparately impacted?

Gotta use the language they know.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:37:50 PM EST
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This is gonna get bad.

For them.
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Truth. Bitches think this is New York. Welcome to Coal Fields Motherfuckers!
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:38:03 PM EST
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Well at least they're making it very clear who they consider the enemy to be.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:38:39 PM EST
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I literally have a woman in my county now taking names off our organized FB rally. She plans to report us all, me first on Jan 1 for possesion of an assault weapon.

God have COC mercy on my thoughts.... This fucking cunt.

And we are a rural county about to go 2A sanc
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I would sign up for your FB rally as well, just because F her.  Depending on timing I might even be able to make it.  Maybe others here would be willing to do the same for that bitch.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:38:46 PM EST
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Wowwwwwwww...
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:38:52 PM EST
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I can't wait for the Arfcops justifying using a Bearcat to take down a troop of Boy Scouts learning to shoot .22s
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:40:03 PM EST
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2 years ago I would have spoke Candid about that subject. Unfortunately the site has changed.

Make ARFCOM Great Again
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Agreed

A lot of boot lickers and libtard infiltration on the site.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:42:18 PM EST
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It looks like it's time.  Just waiting at this point for the booger loop to commence.
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Yeah, sadly. It's time. We're there.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:42:24 PM EST
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Well at least they're making it very clear who they consider the enemy to be.
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On a larger scale, "We the People" do, too.

Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:43:41 PM EST
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I can't wait for the Arfcops justifying using a Bearcat to take down a troop of Boy Scouts learning to shoot .22s
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150 pages of "They weren't the 12 year old angels you thought they were. Lol!"
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:46:36 PM EST
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Interesting.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:46:46 PM EST
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
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1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
yeah the intent portion is

make it vague enough and it's a catch all for anything... GuNz ArE sCaRy = CiViL dIsObEdIeNcE
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:47:36 PM EST
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I can't wait for the Arfcops justifying using a Bearcat to take down a troop of Boy Scouts learning to shoot .22s
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But they also had a knife on their merit badge sash!!!

Call in the swat team and cut off their cell phones!!
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:50:54 PM EST
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3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.
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They are doing this to stop the armed protest on the Capitol.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:54:26 PM EST
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If you didn't already know, you haven't been paying attention.

South Africa was just a small view into what they want to do here.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:55:57 PM EST
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They are doing this to stop the armed protest on the Capitol.
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Yup.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:57:20 PM EST
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I literally have a woman in my county now taking names off our organized FB rally. She plans to report us all, me first on Jan 1 for possesion of an assault weapon.

God have COC mercy on my thoughts.... This fucking cunt.

And we are a rural county about to go 2A sanc
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Watch your back dude. I’ve got an ex friend that went full libtard on me. I’m pretty sure he’s chomping at the bit to red flag my ass.

Fucken Detroit transplant cocksucker.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 6:57:25 PM EST
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so I guess that would also mean no more reenactments
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:00:15 PM EST
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The bill's chief patron; Senator L. Louise Lucas

Does someone who's represented by her want to contact her office and explain that poor, Black and Latino communities would be disparately impacted?

Gotta use the language they know.
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She’s a corrupt scumbag from a R&V district.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:01:13 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:04:04 PM EST
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They are doing this to stop the armed protest on the Capitol.
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3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.
They are doing this to stop the armed protest on the Capitol.
It will not stop it.

Courts first. Then?

Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:04:26 PM EST
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This flys in the face of freedom of association. If a group did meet to train in furtherance of causing violence that would be conspiracy. I don’t see how this passes any constitutional muster.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:05:10 PM EST
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This will start something that leads to jail time and a court case.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:06:26 PM EST
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Let the VA governor know what you think

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Why?
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:06:47 PM EST
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So you are good as long as you have a "this class is not training for civil disobedience" waiver?

Its an incredibly poorly worded (aside from being flat out unconstitutional) document.
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It’s perfectly worded for their intent.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:08:32 PM EST
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The bill's chief patron; Senator L. Louise Lucas

Does someone who's represented by her want to contact her office and explain that poor, Black and Latino communities would be disparately impacted?

Gotta use the language they know.
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Portsmouth...

I guess I'll have to pull the race card on my own....
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:10:38 PM EST
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They are probably all loser boozers and deserve it.
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:11:22 PM EST
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Whew, at least we neutered the NRA
Link Posted: 11/26/2019 7:12:36 PM EST
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This flys in the face of freedom of association. If a group did meet to train in furtherance of causing violence that would be conspiracy. I don’t see how this passes any constitutional muster.
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That matters not a bit as long as there are LEO willing to enforce it.

Not a bit.
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