I bought a Delton upper with a LaRue 7" FF rail and Colt M4 barrel. Sawgunner73 said the parts were all new and he had put 30 rounds through the upper. My intention with this upper was to disassemble the upper and put it back together using a Colt upper. So I received the upper, it looks good, the rail was slightly canted to the left, no problem, I'm going to take it apart anyhow. There were also so mark on the outer rail nut, from metal pliers being used on the barrel nut, vs a strap wrench.
I used a 3 pin barrel nut wrench, a reaction rod, a Snap-on 1/2" dial torque wrench and it went over 100 foot pounds (not in/lbs) and the barrel nut did not budge. So, before I went any further, I messaged the seller and asked if there was Loctite on the threads of the barrel nut because it wasn't moving. His reply was "Didn't use any locktite". So I tried heating the barrel nut with a MAPP gas torch and still it didn't come lose. The holes in the steel barrel nut were elongated due to the amount of torque being applied.
I didn't want to put that much torque on the barrel extension, so I clamped the upper into a vise. I knew I owned it at this point, so I cut off the outer rail nut. It still didn't move with 16" Channellocks on the barrel nut. So I Heated it up again and with an 18" pipe wrench it finally broke lose. There was definitely some kind of thread locking compound on the barrel, NOT any
kind of a lubricant, as one would expect when taking apart a properly assembled upper.
So, now I need a new barrel nut and outer rail nut to reuse the barrel and the upper is toast. I messaged Sawgunner73 and and asked for $100 back on the deal. I think that is more than fair because even if I got $100 back, it still amount to me paying $350 for a Colt M4 barrel.
I asked if the was Loctite on the thread and he said he hadn't used any, which may be true, but there was some thread locker on there, maybe Rocksett, who knows. I do know there was no lubricant on the threads, whatsoever.
So when I messaged Sawgunner73, requesting a $100 refund his answer was "If the upper was left intact I am confident it would be working well for you". That was the last message I got from him. I got the message that he didn't want to talk any further. So I guess if you buy an upper from this guy, you can never disassemble it, which is what I planned from the beginning. Also, even if I was happy with a Delton upper, I would still have to have loosened the barrel nut because the rail was slightly canted.
Of course I have pictures of the remainder of the rail and upper. I also have the IMs saved as well.
I guess a good lesson to everyone that if you are buying an assembled upper that you are buying for parts or plan to disassemble, let the seller do that for you.
These are the reasons I wish to leave negative feedback for Sawgunner73. I've never had to leave negative feedback and I guess this is the process to give someone a -1. What's next?ORIGINAL AD