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Posted: 12/14/2014 10:13:51 PM EDT
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I shoot both in 9mm.
I have a Glock 34 and shoot USPSA production. For 3-Gun, I use my extended magazines so it gives me 23 +1 in 9mm. I'd imagine if you want to shoot Limited and 3-Gun, you would probably want to shoot a .40. |
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Posted: 12/14/2014 11:31:29 PM EDT
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Pick what USPSA division you want to shoot and buy the pistol based on that. If your like me, you'll shoot a lot more USPSA than 3-Gun. Then, build your 3-Gun gear around that.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 1:01:23 AM EDT
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Budget <$1000: Get a Glock 34, M&P9 5" Pro or XDM9. Leave it pretty much stock. Shoot USPSA Production, then stuff extra rounds in your mags and shoot 3-Gun.
Budget <$2000: Get the above 9mm pistols + the same platforms in .40. Add Limited-legal upgrades to both (trigger, magwell etc.). Shoot the .40 in USPSA Limited, and the 9mm in 3-Gun. This what I did - my M&P pistols are shown below. Both the above options will be more flexible, less expensive and lower drama than buying into a thoroughbred 2011. I haven't fired my 2011 in probably 10 years. 
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:35:21 AM EDT
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Budget <$1000: Get a Glock 34, M&P9 5" Pro or XDM9. Leave it pretty much stock. Shoot USPSA Production, then stuff extra rounds in your mags and shoot 3-Gun. Budget <$2000: Get the above 9mm pistols + the same platforms in .40. Add Limited-legal upgrades to both (trigger, magwell etc.). Shoot the .40 in USPSA Limited, and the 9mm in 3-Gun. This what I did - my M&P pistols are shown below. Both the above options will be more flexible, less expensive and lower drama than buying into a thoroughbred 2011. I haven't fired my 2011 in probably 10 years. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/MampPMatchGuns_zps4c065906.jpg I have actually kicked around the notion of getting 2 STI's, one in 40 & the other in 9. But I'm having a hard time justifying the expense. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:44:49 AM EDT
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Here are some options from high cost/performance to low cost/performance.
Order an Infinity in either 9mm or .40 then get a conversion to the other caliber/division. That is what I did with my .40 for USPSA & I added a .45 for Heavy Metal 3-Gun. Get a CZ75 SP-01 Shadow for Production. Add a few extra mags with mag extensions. Get a Glock 34/35 and get a conversion barrel for 9/40. Buy mags and Taran Tactical extensions as necessary. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 12:34:04 PM EDT
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Here are some options from high cost/performance to low cost/performance. Order an Infinity in either 9mm or .40 then get a conversion to the other caliber/division. That is what I did with my .40 for USPSA & I added a .45 for Heavy Metal 3-Gun. Get a CZ75 SP-01 Shadow for Production. Add a few extra mags with mag extensions. Get a Glock 34/35 and get a conversion barrel for 9/40. Buy mags and Taran Tactical extensions as necessary. I like the Infinities - I shot a buddy's SVI & felt like a superman the whole time, but the price/wait kills me. Though the caliber conversion isn't something I considered before. I think its worth looking into. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 7:05:32 PM EDT
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I shoot 3-gun and Limited (minor) with my Hayes 9mm 2011. Two alphas is still two alphas. I managed to win the Free State USPSA Limited division this year shooting minor....you just have to make your hits.
I shoot a LOT more 3-gun than USPSA tho. If the other way around, I would only shoot .40 and would have a minor load and extra mag on my belt. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:19:40 AM EDT
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I shoot both and had a Limited Glock 22 for USPSA. SO I just use it in 3gun. 20 rounds is plenty for most stages.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:22:19 AM EDT
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I shoot my G34 in both 3 Gun and USPSA.
Because, after all, USPSA is just practice for 3 gun. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:48:24 PM EDT
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You could always just shoot 40 minor ammo for 3 gun.
Depending on how serious you are, pick the right tool for the job. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 5:29:36 PM EDT
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I shoot my daughters G34 or my limited gun in 3 gun depending on how much ammo I have loaded up. It is never the pistol that holds me back (well actually in USPSA it does
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Posted: 12/19/2014 12:06:42 AM EDT
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I shoot my G34 in both 3 Gun and USPSA. Because, after all, USPSA is just practice for 3 gun. Very well said! |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:35:56 PM EDT
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I shoot more 3 gun than how much I care about scoring in USPSA so I stick with 9mm. Plus saving cash on ammo so I can shoot more by using 9mm.
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Posted: 10/28/2016 6:04:57 AM EDT
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I shoot a CZ-75 Shadow in 3-gun and USPSA Production. I had a CZ CTS limited gun in .40, but felt at a disadvantage to the 9mm's in 3-gun. I have also shot a Beretta 92FS in both Production and 3-Gun and not felt it any disadvantage. I'm currently looking at the Sig Legion SAO 226 and trying to convince myself it would be a viable 3-gun setup.
In truth, a Glock 34 is about the "easiest" pistol to run in both, if you can get used to the gun. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 2:53:03 PM EDT
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when you get older, you will trade your G34 for Limited minor, and get a 9mm PCC and shoot a cheap open gun with a stock attached
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:26:56 PM EDT
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I have actually kicked around the notion of getting 2 STI's, one in 40 & the other in 9. But I'm having a hard time justifying the expense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Budget <$1000: Get a Glock 34, M&P9 5" Pro or XDM9. Leave it pretty much stock. Shoot USPSA Production, then stuff extra rounds in your mags and shoot 3-Gun. Budget <$2000: Get the above 9mm pistols + the same platforms in .40. Add Limited-legal upgrades to both (trigger, magwell etc.). Shoot the .40 in USPSA Limited, and the 9mm in 3-Gun. This what I did - my M&P pistols are shown below. Both the above options will be more flexible, less expensive and lower drama than buying into a thoroughbred 2011. I haven't fired my 2011 in probably 10 years. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/MampPMatchGuns_zps4c065906.jpg |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 5:15:19 PM EDT
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You can always go 9mm open shooting major ammo and 27 round 170 length mags for USPSA. By that point you will be shooting open in 3 gun too however. I shot production in USPSA 1st year, limited for a few months then went straight to open. I'll never go back, sure I'm not the best but I really enjoy the fast nature of open. Open in 3 gun is really fun too with multiple optics and a giant shotgun tube. Open is not for everyone but I enjoy the heck out of it. Course you will be spending allot on equipment and at that point just paying for slight more cost of 40 to shoot limited major makes more since.
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:46:51 AM EDT
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I had a custom 2011 built in 9mm and 40. It takes 1 Min to go from one caliber to another
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Posted: 4/3/2018 3:51:36 PM EDT
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I have actually kicked around the notion of getting 2 STI's, one in 40 & the other in 9. But I'm having a hard time justifying the expense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Budget <$1000: Get a Glock 34, M&P9 5" Pro or XDM9. Leave it pretty much stock. Shoot USPSA Production, then stuff extra rounds in your mags and shoot 3-Gun. Budget <$2000: Get the above 9mm pistols + the same platforms in .40. Add Limited-legal upgrades to both (trigger, magwell etc.). Shoot the .40 in USPSA Limited, and the 9mm in 3-Gun. This what I did - my M&P pistols are shown below. Both the above options will be more flexible, less expensive and lower drama than buying into a thoroughbred 2011. I haven't fired my 2011 in probably 10 years. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/MampPMatchGuns_zps4c065906.jpg |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 9:46:40 AM EDT
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I can get 20 reloadable in my .40 2011 mags. Now this does takes tuning and aftermarket parts. If I were to shoot 3 Gun I would just load .40 minor. Shoots softer than 9mm minor.
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have actually kicked around the notion of getting 2 STI's, one in 40 & the other in 9. But I'm having a hard time justifying the expense.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:07:24 PM EDT
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I shoot 3-gun and Limited (minor) with my Hayes 9mm 2011. Two alphas is still two alphas. I managed to win the Free State USPSA Limited division this year shooting minor....you just have to make your hits. I shoot a LOT more 3-gun than USPSA tho. If the other way around, I would only shoot .40 and would have a minor load and extra mag on my belt. |
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:31:54 PM EDT
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I shoot 3-gun and Limited (minor) with my Hayes 9mm 2011. Two alphas is still two alphas. I managed to win the Free State USPSA Limited division this year shooting minor....you just have to make your hits. I shoot a LOT more 3-gun than USPSA tho. If the other way around, I would only shoot .40 and would have a minor load and extra mag on my belt. |
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Posted: 6/8/2018 1:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have actually kicked around the notion of getting 2 STI's, one in 40 & the other in 9. But I'm having a hard time justifying the expense. |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 11:13:01 AM EDT
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I like to use My STI DVC 3-Gun in 9mm for both. I shoot mostly 3-gun and mix in some USPSA. Limited Minor makes you concentrate a little more on accuracy for USPSA and gives higher capacity. If I was shooting mainly USPSA I would probably get a .40 and use minor loads for 3-Gun. The newest 140mm magazines from STI are 18 rounds for .40 and 20 rounds for 9mm so you are only sacrificing 2 rounds of capacity. If you can afford to do 2 guns you could do the Edge which is a little cheaper option or he DVC 3-Gun and or DVC Limited which are VERY, VERY nice. If anyone wants to get any STI pistols, let me know. I can get you a brand ambassador discount!!
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Posted: 6/30/2018 4:05:34 AM EDT
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Budget <$1000: Get a Glock 34, M&P9 5" Pro or XDM9. Leave it pretty much stock. Shoot USPSA Production, then stuff extra rounds in your mags and shoot 3-Gun. Budget <$2000: Get the above 9mm pistols + the same platforms in .40. Add Limited-legal upgrades to both (trigger, magwell etc.). Shoot the .40 in USPSA Limited, and the 9mm in 3-Gun. This what I did - my M&P pistols are shown below. Both the above options will be more flexible, less expensive and lower drama than buying into a thoroughbred 2011. I haven't fired my 2011 in probably 10 years. http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/stealthyblagga/MampPMatchGuns_zps4c065906.jpg The 2011's are sweeter to shoot for sure though. I recently got to shoot a pair of custom 2011's in 9 and 40. The 40 felt like a 9 to shoot, the triggers and accuracy were awsome. Rapid fire 10 shot groups were like using a laser and the gun hardly moves, all for the modest price of 9K for the pair (this includes everything needed to shoot a match).No, you don't have to go that far down the rabbit hole, but it can happen. $80 to $130 per magazine as well, cool. I'm running an XDM 9 with Dawson sights+magwells and a Powder River trigger. The gun just never messes up. The minor power factor goes both ways. Yeah just shoot all A's, no problem, it's easy, its only a 9mm, lol. Most shots fired at a match are A and C with either round, and that's where the 40 pulls ahead. I'm a high C shooter in USPSA, at this point, the gun is not why I'm not a high B. ETA: after thinking about it, since most classifiers involve less movement, maybe it is. A person could rank higher because they're good at classifiers, and tank stages. So, what did you decide? |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:06:09 AM EDT
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you need to decide what divisions you plan on shooting and buy/dress/train around that. For a while I was heavy into 3 gun, and shot it with a 6" STI in 40 minor. shot softer than 9mm, with 140mm mags i was 20+1 so not that far behind 9mm (23+1 usually). the long sight radius and good trigger let me hit little steel on the first try so I made fewer reloads. I also shot USPSA single stack so I was used to planning stages, reloading when moving, etc.
I would shoot 40 major in USPSA but then when I decided 3 gun was my game I just continued shooting 40 minor and scoring myself like I would be in 3 gun. Oh there is one advantage to 40 in 3 gun. if there's steel or swingers that are set a bit heavy and you know that going in, you can use some major ammo. I've done this where 9mm guys have to hit the top of the plate and I can hit it anywhere. rare but it is helpful. Here's what I would do now, ranked by budget: $4K+ SVI with 9mm/40/45 top ends. maybe 9mm with a dot to for outlaw. $2k and care about Limited major: used Edge/eagle. load minor for 3 gun. same mags and holster so that's nice $2k don't care about limited major: STI DVC/Maruader/Tactical (get a rail for night matches) 9mm. bunch of good mags. enjoy $1k but want to shoot limited major. M&P/Glock 40. 9mm conversion and mags for 3 gun less than 1k or don't care about major: M&P/Glock 9mm. shoot production. |
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Posted: 7/24/2018 12:08:51 PM EDT
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SVI with 3 top ends is gonna be a whole lot more than 4 Grand. Probably closer to 9G.
A fairly plain SVI with ONE top end is gonna be over 5G, and 18 month wait! Just sayin. |
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Posted: 7/24/2018 9:44:10 PM EDT
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For you guys that are A, M or GM shooters that started with an M&P, Glock or XDM or similar and moved on to a 2011 type...
Looking back was the gun actually holding you back from advancing Or was it more experience and trigger time? If you go back are you just as competitive? |
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Posted: 7/28/2018 7:34:50 PM EDT
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For you guys that are A, M or GM shooters that started with an M&P, Glock or XDM or similar and moved on to a 2011 type... Looking back was the gun actually holding you back from advancing Or was it more experience and trigger time? If you go back are you just as competitive? After 2 full seasons of Limited, I returned to Production with the same M&P was was still competitive with the local heat, even winning division over a newly minted GM Tangfo operator. The better one gets across any division/ gun, the better than will be at picking up any gun and shooting it well. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 11:31:19 AM EDT
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I started with a M&P, then spent several seasons with a fairly inexpensive but properly set up single-stack gun. Once I decided I wanted to be competitive with the good production shooters at local matches, I spent more and more time practicing, dry fire and live fire. I was able to go from C to M with the M&P in one season. The following season I reached M in SS. Then in a few months made M in Limited with an off the shelf STI 2011. The gun doesn't hold you back, dedication to serious practice will hold you back. After 2 full seasons of Limited, I returned to Production with the same M&P was was still competitive with the local heat, even winning division over a newly minted GM Tangfo operator. The better one gets across any division/ gun, the better than will be at picking up any gun and shooting it well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For you guys that are A, M or GM shooters that started with an M&P, Glock or XDM or similar and moved on to a 2011 type... Looking back was the gun actually holding you back from advancing Or was it more experience and trigger time? If you go back are you just as competitive? After 2 full seasons of Limited, I returned to Production with the same M&P was was still competitive with the local heat, even winning division over a newly minted GM Tangfo operator. The better one gets across any division/ gun, the better than will be at picking up any gun and shooting it well. A good dry fire program will improve your draw speeds, reloads, and transitions. These areas with give the best improvements in times no matter to age or if you are not in super physical condition. You are not limited by only have some FUDD range to use where you can not draw from holsters, move between targets, or positions. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 6:33:09 PM EDT
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I just use my carry optics pistol to shoot open in 3 gun.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:57:49 AM EDT
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I only shoot major in single stack . Everything else for pistols is 9mm. Entirely due to expense vs practice... I’d rather shoot a more easily available and often cheaper bullet more often than have a point advantage.
I’m fairly new to competition shooting though and sold off safe queens to get a used sti 2011 dvc, a Springfield trp 1911 for single and a CZ shadow 2. To me, I wanted to make sure the only error I encounter is on me and never a firearm. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:51:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Never mind
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Posted: 3/23/2019 11:54:23 AM EDT
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What kind of participation are you guys seeing in USPSA vs 3 Gun in your area? It looks to me like 3 Gun is slowing down a lot and more people are just going to pistol only. Maybe it's just in my area.
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Posted: 3/23/2019 12:09:07 PM EDT
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CZ Tactical Sport
Can shoot minor 9 or Major 9. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 12:17:50 PM EDT
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What kind of participation are you guys seeing in USPSA vs 3 Gun in your area? It looks to me like 3 Gun is slowing down a lot and more people are just going to pistol only. Maybe it's just in my area. 3 Gun 20 to 25 |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 9:56:55 PM EDT
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CZ Tactical Sport Can shoot minor 9 or Major 9. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 9:58:09 PM EDT
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What kind of participation are you guys seeing in USPSA vs 3 Gun in your area? It looks to me like 3 Gun is slowing down a lot and more people are just going to pistol only. Maybe it's just in my area. |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 10:07:06 PM EDT
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USPSA growing PCC has siphoned off a lot of the 3gunners. There are 3 or 4 stages left up for 3 gun on Sunday I have to drive about 1 hour 45 minutes to get there Nearly every time I leave I tell someone I'll be there the next day, but by the time I'm almost home I realize I'm just not up for the drive again. Too bad because they are great matches. |
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Posted: 3/23/2019 10:16:31 PM EDT
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Buy your STI in 40 and get a 9mm barrel and mags.
Never mind already suggested. |
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