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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:03:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Can you let me have it?
I need it. 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:20:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Surplus 54r powder is very dirty.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:45:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surplus 54r powder is very dirty. How so? Like corrosive? I clean my guns |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How so? Like corrosive? I clean my guns Hard tell tell unless we know the manufacture co./date. But yes clean the rifle after and good to go! |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:53:50 PM EDT
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Simply not worth the effort my friend!
Why not take it to your next gunshow and either sell or trade for ready to shoot ammo you can use. I'm sure that someone with a Mosin would greatly appreciate your gesture! I'd sell it along with the cartridge case! |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:02:16 PM EDT
[#6]
It's my understanding that it's the primers that are corrosive, not the powder. It's modern "smokeless" powder, so not black powder that leaves a salt layer on the metal.
The older primers apparently also left a salt substance in the chambers and on the bolts, which is probably why the Mosin bolts are chromed. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's my understanding that it's the primers that are corrosive, not the powder. It's modern "smokeless" powder, so not black powder that leaves a salt layer on the metal. The older primers apparently also left a salt substance in the chambers and on the bolts, which is probably why the Mosin bolts are chromed. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:20:38 PM EDT
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I see. It is some sort of stainless steel then, as it stays shiny and doesn't rust, even without a bluing.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:25:34 PM EDT
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Im just holding it as trade collateral.
Ive actually loaded alot of resized projectiles before. Ive got the thing to do it. Plus i dont mind holding it for collector value. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 2:30:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im just holding it as trade collateral. Ive actually loaded alot of resized projectiles before. Ive got the thing to do it. Plus i dont mind holding it for collector value. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:15:45 PM EDT
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Since I don't smoke I have no idea if that is a good or bad deal. My local Academy the other day had the house brand Barnual for $12 a box of 20. It is steel cased and non corrosive. It was under $10 a box pre covid.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:31:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just for info. Silver tip is regular light ball, yellow tip is heavy ball and the plain FMJ is silver tip without the paint. Thank you |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 7:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just for info. Silver tip is regular light ball, yellow tip is heavy ball and the plain FMJ is silver tip without the paint. Close. Silver tip is steel core light ball, yellow is heavy lead core ball, silver and yellow is steel core heavy ball. Unpainted surplus would be lead core if old (pre 1950 or thereabouts) or steel core if newer than app 1985. As with anything dealing with Soviet/Eastern bloc military production, those are just some general guidelines. |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 8:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Close. Silver tip is steel core light ball, yellow is heavy lead core ball, silver and yellow is steel core heavy ball. Unpainted surplus would be lead core if old (pre 1950 or thereabouts) or steel core if newer than app 1985. As with anything dealing with Soviet/Eastern bloc military production, those are just some general guidelines. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just for info. Silver tip is regular light ball, yellow tip is heavy ball and the plain FMJ is silver tip without the paint. Close. Silver tip is steel core light ball, yellow is heavy lead core ball, silver and yellow is steel core heavy ball. Unpainted surplus would be lead core if old (pre 1950 or thereabouts) or steel core if newer than app 1985. As with anything dealing with Soviet/Eastern bloc military production, those are just some general guidelines. |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 8:27:07 AM EDT
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A lot of folks try to market the silver tip steel core as AP ammo. This however, is not the case. It is simply a mild steel core as it is a cheaper material than lead.
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Posted: 5/28/2021 11:55:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't take much stock in the steel core vs lead core...none of the above is armor piercing. Oh, I agree. It's a very mild steel core and some are even blunt tipped. Several years ago just to prove that the steel core made little to no difference in penetration over lead core I shot a bunch of different types into layered 1/8" steel plates and also into tree trunks. Bullet weight made a bigger difference than core material with ~185 grain bullets being the best by far, light ball (~147 grain) second then the super heavy but super slow 200+ grain being worst but not by much. |
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Posted: 5/30/2021 9:12:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of folks try to market the silver tip steel core as AP ammo. This however, is not the case. It is simply a mild steel core as it is a cheaper material than lead. Silver tip has nothing to do with anything other than the bullet weight. Silver tip denotes a 147gr projectile, or light ball as it's referred to. Nothing at all to do with bullet construction |
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Posted: 6/3/2021 6:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Silver tip has nothing to do with anything other than the bullet weight. Silver tip denotes a 147gr projectile, or light ball as it's referred to. Nothing at all to do with bullet construction Other than the steel core, no it doesn't. The silver paint is on there to distinguish between the lead cored and steel cored bullets. Just silver is light ball, while yellow and silver is steel core heavy ball. |
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Posted: 6/3/2021 6:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's my understanding that it's the primers that are corrosive, not the powder. It's modern "smokeless" powder, so not black powder that leaves a salt layer on the metal. The older primers apparently also left a salt substance in the chambers and on the bolts, which is probably why the Mosin bolts are chromed. Yep, there is either potassium chlorate or sodium perchlorate used in the primer. They deposit a salt residue. Clean gun normally after shooting, some people clean with water first. Been shooting them for decades without an issue, just clean the gun after using it, don't wait a day or two. |
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