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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:36:20 AM EDT
Im looking to update suspenders. I have Crye precision suspenders, Im left wanting. The condor h harness is much closer to the design Im looking for, but I want better quality and lower profile. I have seen suspenders like Im attempting to describe but cannot find them on the internet. Im looking for harness similar to this chest rig harness but for belt. https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/altcn102000_airlite-convertible-chest-rig
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https://atstacticalgear.com/ats-padded-war-belt-harness/
Not sure if that's low profile enough but seems fairly minimalistic |
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These ATS Lo-Pro Suspenders are about as low-profile as one can get. Quality is GTG, and so is the $20 price.
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Quoted: These ATS Lo-Pro Suspenders are about as low-profile as one can get. Quality is GTG, and so is the $20 price. View Quote similar to what I have, I need wider shoulder straps but without padding. |
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you may want to search for british "under armour yokes", made for their heavy belt kits and meant to be worn under armour.
Jayjays or Vanguard may be for you, maybe a surplus osprey one too. Disciple made one that looked like the tactical tailor h harness, but thinner and made of mesh with some pals webbing. i think they are out of business unluckily. |
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Quoted: similar to what I have, I need wider shoulder straps but without padding. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: These ATS Lo-Pro Suspenders are about as low-profile as one can get. Quality is GTG, and so is the $20 price. similar to what I have, I need wider shoulder straps but without padding. Condor Item you mentioned in your post above seems much like the >>different<< ATS item suggested by another poster, but nearly certain that any ATS item is much better made than any Condor item. IMHO, the fabric and webbing on Condor gear is usually OK, but the quality of the thread used seems to have been a problem in the past, as well as the stitching workmanship. In my experience, and admitting Condor gear has progressed in overall quality over time, I trust Condor gear in inverse proportion to the weight it will carry. Low weight, some trust. High weight, much less trust. YMMV. You did not mention how such "low-profile" suspenders will be worn, nor did you mention whether or not they will be worn in conjunction with any other gear, such as PCs, packs, and so forth. A little more information from you would help us all to give you better suggestions. |
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Check it out here ******
Tactical Tailor Fight Light setup might be an option. Padded but very thin. If the drag handle on the back is too bulky, you cut cut it off pretty easily with a sharp knife. I have this on a belt rig and like it a lot. Edit to add... here’s an old pic from a “modern ALICE” setup I was playing around with a while back. |
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Years ago, after trying lots of different suspenders and harnesses, I settled on the Emdom\MM Battle Suspenders. A little pricey but top quality.
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Quoted: Years ago, after trying lots of different suspenders and harnesses, I settled on the Emdom\MM Battle Suspenders. A little pricey but top quality. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/EU089A-13_jpg-2414125.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/EU089A-14_jpg-2414126.JPG View Quote The removable sternum strap/neck straps might be useful, but I'd rather see the sternum strap with an easily adjustible QD fastex buckle instead of a snap. From the look of the rig, user could emplace a snap higher-up on the rear straps to spread them out on the rear of the belt a little more. Good suggestion, IMHO. |
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I use these on my warbelt HSGI
I was concerned about them creating hotspots under my PC but so far so good. |
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Quoted: I use these on my warbelt HSGI I was concerned about them creating hotspots under my PC but so far so good. View Quote I use that on my recce rig under my PC; Tactical Tailor Fight Lite pictured above if not wearing armor. Both are outstanding. |
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This has peaked my interest but anyone know anything about this company? https://eu.directactiongear.com/en/mosquito-h-harness.html#AGR
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FYI Im trying to find a battle belt/suspender combo that can function as a LBE for woodland ops but transform into a battle belt for mounted/urban ops.
Cyre suspenders straps where not wide enough to support the weight of LBE setup. Thus my hunt for suspenders. |
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Quoted: FYI Im trying to find a battle belt/suspender combo that can function as a LBE for woodland ops but transform into a battle belt for mounted/urban ops. Cyre suspenders straps where not wide enough to support the weight of LBE setup. Thus my hunt for suspenders. View Quote I tried that but eventually gave up and pieced together two belts: Esstac inner/outer for use on its own on the range or with a PC; and an HSGI Sure Grip with suspenders, primarily to be used as LBE. |
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Quoted: Check it out here ****** Tactical Tailor Fight Light setup might be an option. Padded but very thin. If the drag handle on the back is too bulky, you cut cut it off pretty easily with a sharp knife. I have this on a belt rig and like it a lot. Edit to add... here’s an old pic from a “modern ALICE” setup I was playing around with a while back. https://i.postimg.cc/bvLpM3n6/CF9669-B6-79-EF-4968-9-E7-A-18-A3073-B36-D7.png View Quote Neat looking setup. |
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Just bought a 3-pak of these Danish LBE suspenders. Not yet received, but looked fairly decent, what with some mesh provided in the usual "heat" areas, and their being "User-alterable" 6-point suspemders, IOW, cut off what you don't need. Prefer as many attachement points as possible, but YMMV. Camo seems to be reasonably compatible with Multicam.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist?k=danish%20military%20surplus Will report back once the items are in-hand. ETA: Just received. Please refer to pix linked above. Main body is padded with 3/16" foam. Rear straps are 3/4" width; side and front straps are 1" wide. Typical mil-spec materials/construction quality. There were some "rough" places in the stitch-throughs on the inside of the yoke, and these had to be carefully heated, melted, and "flattened" so to prevent these "rough" points from poking the user's skin. There are some horizontal sections of 1" webbing alongside the drag handle at top rear of the yoke, and these points could be used as top attachment points for a bladder carrier or the like. Possibly the side-straps could be used as bottom attachment points. Those wishing to wear this unit under a PC or chest rig can cut off the plastic buckles (and perhaps the parts of the loops that secure the buckles, and use flat metal or plastic tri-glide buckles to secure the straps at their lower ends. IOW, the new buckles need not be beneath the item(s) worn over it. The 1" side straps can be carefully cut away and doing so is recommended for use under a PC, due to the extra webbing fabric used to secure the top-mounted OEM buckles adding some possibly objectionable bulk/discomfort at the buckle attachment points. Performing these mods will make the surplus Dutch unit look much like the multicam Brit "yoke" pictured below, but it will be a 4-point yoke. Locating the new tri-glide buckles lower on the straps will likely allow the very long straps to be trimmed to a shorter length. Suggest leaving enough extra strap for use over cold-weather clothing, and cutting the ends of the straps at a 45 deg angle for ease in threading through the buckles; sear the cut nylon to prevent unravelling. OTOH, can certainly be used as-is, with or without the buckle change. This provides a reasonably priced 6-point yoke. For general reference, I consider these Danish yokes considerably superior to USGI "H" or "Y" yokes. If these units suit your needs, suggest considering them. |
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Quoted: This has peaked my interest but anyone know anything about this company? https://eu.directactiongear.com/en/mosquito-h-harness.html#AGR View Quote OP, coincidently I came across your thread looking for something similar as you. FWIW I have a direct action gear mosquito panel on my 2 gun belt. I won’t booger up your thread with details. FWIW they did respond pretty quickly to an inquiry I submitted on the website. I did end up making the purchase and received the item in a timely manner so the outfit is legit. The product seems like a decent bit of kit but a bit pricey for what it is. It’s laser cut molle very similar to blue force gear stuff. It’s holding up pretty well well so far but I’ve only run it for three matches. HTH |
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I found this as well, https://www.tardigradetactical.com/collections/harnesses/products/infantry-low-profile-harness
why do I have to look to Europe for this kind of harness? I would have thought in USA we would have this kind of thing. |
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Blue Force Gear,
Belt Minus V3 hits all your criteria. I've been using one for a couple of years and love it. It is also comfortable under a plate carrier. https://www.blueforcegear.com/beltminus-v3 wpns man |
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Quoted: I found this as well, https://www.tardigradetactical.com/collections/harnesses/products/infantry-low-profile-harness why do I have to look to Europe for this kind of harness? I would have thought in USA we would have this kind of thing. View Quote |
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The trick is, with most Nylon Suspenders/Yokes, is to be able to punch ventilating holes in the Yoke/shoulder straps/body of the Yoke ensemble, should they lack such, and such heated punch also sear the edges of the punched holes in the fabric.
Some very modern nylon suspenders come with such ventilating holes/slits. There is every reason to hope that the proper heated punch, applied to pre-existing (and inexpensive) yokes could achieve the same goals. Suggest punching the holes from the inside outwards. I'm looking for such a tool. If you know of one, please assist. |
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Quoted: The trick is, with most Nylon Suspenders/Yokes, is to be able to punch ventilating holes in the Yoke/shoulder straps/body of the Yoke ensemble, should they lack such, and such heated punch also sear the edges of the punched holes in the fabric. Some very modern nylon suspenders come with such ventilating holes/slits. There is every reason to hope that the proper heated punch, applied to pre-existing (and inexpensive) yokes could achieve the same goals. Suggest punching the holes from the inside outwards. I'm looking for such a tool. If you know of one, please assist. View Quote Would a soldering iron work, or is the tip too big (hyuk hyuk)? I've had such ideas before for other kinds of DIY gearmaking with synthetic materials like nylon or cordura. I just never got around to buying the iron. |
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I have a pair of SOC-C that I like, but they are discontinued.
They wouldn't be that hard to make using general practice webbing skills. |
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Quoted: Check it out here ****** Tactical Tailor Fight Light setup might be an option. Padded but very thin. If the drag handle on the back is too bulky, you cut cut it off pretty easily with a sharp knife. I have this on a belt rig and like it a lot. Edit to add... here's an old pic from a "modern ALICE" setup I was playing around with a while back. https://i.postimg.cc/bvLpM3n6/CF9669-B6-79-EF-4968-9-E7-A-18-A3073-B36-D7.png View Quote Interesting belt design. |
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Quoted: Would a soldering iron work, or is the tip too big (hyuk hyuk)? I've had such ideas before for other kinds of DIY gearmaking with synthetic materials like nylon or cordura. I just never got around to buying the iron. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The trick is, with most Nylon Suspenders/Yokes, is to be able to punch ventilating holes in the Yoke/shoulder straps/body of the Yoke ensemble, should they lack such, and such heated punch also sear the edges of the punched holes in the fabric. Some very modern nylon suspenders come with such ventilating holes/slits. There is every reason to hope that the proper heated punch, applied to pre-existing (and inexpensive) yokes could achieve the same goals. Suggest punching the holes from the inside outwards. I'm looking for such a tool. If you know of one, please assist. Would a soldering iron work, or is the tip too big (hyuk hyuk)? I've had such ideas before for other kinds of DIY gearmaking with synthetic materials like nylon or cordura. I just never got around to buying the iron. |
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Quoted: Years ago, after trying lots of different suspenders and harnesses, I settled on the Emdom\MM Battle Suspenders. A little pricey but top quality. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/EU089A-13_jpg-2414125.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/EU089A-14_jpg-2414126.JPG View Quote https://www.emdomusa.com/Emdom-MM-Battle-Suspenders-p/eu089a.htm |
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Suggest that it might be imperative/vital for user to instantly dump all their equipment, including belt. Drowning in water has a way of >>concentrating<< one's thoughts. Having gear items with intuitive quick-release buckles might make the difference between life and death. As always, train with such items under very stressful conditions.
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Quoted: Check it out here ****** Tactical Tailor Fight Light setup might be an option. Padded but very thin. If the drag handle on the back is too bulky, you cut cut it off pretty easily with a sharp knife. I have this on a belt rig and like it a lot. Edit to add... here’s an old pic from a “modern ALICE” setup I was playing around with a while back. https://i.postimg.cc/bvLpM3n6/CF9669-B6-79-EF-4968-9-E7-A-18-A3073-B36-D7.png View Quote What belt and belt cover are you using with those suspenders? I'm digging the Modern LBE design. |
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Quoted: What belt and belt cover are you using with those suspenders? I'm digging the Modern LBE design. View Quote Manufactured by Safariland back in the day as part of the SPEAR ELCS kit issued to SOF forces. The base system was a vest with front MOLLE panels, but the kit also included a belt adapter. I found the belt adapter pieces for sale HERE. Would have to track down the other pieces on eBay. Looking at it, you might also be able to cannibalize a belt from a more common MOLLE FLC. |
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I have a fabric "suitcase" stuffed-full of Safariland-made Spear LBE items, along with GI list of included items. High quality stuff.
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Purchased a couple pair of the Grey Ghost Gear UGF 3 Point Suspender Harness- Laminate. They have another model that isn't "laminate" but they just look strange. These have a sort of German combat Y-strap vibe. They recommend them for use with their battle belt but using the G-Hooks they should work with most any battle belt.
I haven't used them a lot so can't offer a detailed review but like them so far. The straps have elastic... I'm not a big fan of elastic in gear but it works well in these. I'll just have to see how it ages. Also: I thought I got a good deal last fall with 30% off. Shortly afterwards, (Black Friday, Cyber Monday) they went on sale for 50% off! Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: Purchased a couple pair of the Grey Ghost Gear UGF 3 Point Suspender Harness- Laminate. They have another model that isn't "laminate" but they just look strange. These have a sort of German combat Y-strap vibe. They recommend them for use with their battle belt but using the G-Hooks they should work with most any battle belt. I haven't used them a lot so can't offer a detailed review but like them so far. The straps have elastic... I'm not a big fan of elastic in gear but it works well in these. I'll just have to see how it ages. Also: I thought I got a good deal last fall with 30% off. Shortly afterwards, (Black Friday, Cyber Monday) they went on sale for 50% off! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/2-ggp90375_jpg-2498215.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36415/2-ggp903714_jpg-2498216.JPG View Quote GGG Unlaminated 3-Point Suspenders |
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