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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:24:03 AM EDT
I am considering building a form 1 suppressor for my 4.5" AR pistol with a binary trigger. I know it will see lots of use in rapid fire target engagement and mag dumps. (I.E. I have put 3,650+ rounds through it in the past two months with and without a friends suppressor)

I am looking for suggestions on how I should proceed with the build. I had considered cones and K's but was concerned that the K's might become fouled rather quickly.  

I was planning on making this a Titanium build.

I have access to a machine shop with a manual lathe and end mill.  

Thanks in advance.

PS yes I have used the search function, but have not seen anything in relation to binary trigger usage.
Link Posted: 5/13/2020 1:28:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Why not skirted cones?
Link Posted: 5/13/2020 3:03:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Titanium is probably over-kill unless weight is an issue. If weight is an issue then machining 416 or 17-4 stainless thin enough can get very close. Size wise a 1.375” OD/ 1.25” ID tube of 6061, 6-7” long will look right and give options to adapt a 3-lug mount.
Link Posted: 5/13/2020 7:49:34 PM EDT
[#3]
I'd go with skirted cones. For material you would never have to worry about 17-4 internals, I don't think the tube is going to matter as much, a titanium tube is probably overkill from the strength and weight savings perspective, particularly on the AR pistol where the proportional difference in weight is small.
Link Posted: 5/14/2020 8:21:38 AM EDT
[#4]
Other than the brake, blast spacer, and blast baffle, this is 100% Aluminum. Built a couple years ago on a Spike's 22lr upper. It has well over 5k rounds through it, which isn't a lot. It's not the first 22lr I've done w/ Al; several are 100% Al.


Link Posted: 5/19/2020 11:04:57 AM EDT
[#5]
I will tell you right out of the gate, that my opinion is probably not in the majority but here goes.

I don't care for the serviceable trend with silencers.

I don't want to have to clean the silencer after 200-500 rounds.

A sealed aluminum rimfire can is both very light and very quiet.

It takes over 10,000 rounds of use to "fill up" a sealed aluminum rimfire can.

I have the ability to make a sealed aluminum rimfire can for less than $5 out-of-pocket.

With all that being said, I'd rather spend $200 to create a new silencer when I "fill up" the silencer than clean it every time I take it out.

Plus I'd have to have multiple as I usually shoot more than a brick of .22 when I do take it out.

I know it's not the popular opinion, but it's the route I choose.

Link Posted: 5/19/2020 12:09:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2020 12:35:14 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By crazyelece:I'd rather spend $200 to create a new silencer when I "fill up" the silencer than clean it every time I take it out.
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This is my preferance as the next one being built will be a revised model. Always moving towards better suppression.
There was another thread where I broke down the cost of ammo and suppressor, over an expected "lifetime". The cost of a new can was so marginal, it wasn't worth the time to clean them.
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