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Posted: 1/26/2020 9:53:05 PM EDT
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I’m interested in a Scorpion lower but not an upper. So I’d want to see 556 upper compatibility for CMMG or MEAN’s coming roller lock setup.
There are also a couple styling things I’m not crazy about, but... I could see myself getting a scorpion lower over a Glock lower. ESP with Magpul making scorpion mags and drums. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 7:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I’m interested in a Scorpion lower but not an upper. So I’d want to see 556 upper compatibility for CMMG or MEAN’s coming roller lock setup. There are also a couple styling things I’m not crazy about, but... I could see myself getting a scorpion lower over a Glock lower. ESP with Magpul making scorpion mags and drums. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 11:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, but it is still a step in the right direction, unlike the PSA lower I saw. Also, why is it so damn hard to flare the magwells!? FFS it causes no problems and is a must for competition, yet, tiny little magwells everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 11:57:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What did they screw up? Also, why is it so damn hard to flare the magwells!? FFS it causes no problems and is a must for competition, yet, tiny little magwells everywhere. The absurd magwell flare on things like the Sig MPX are for guys who can't hit a urinal at two feet. 
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 12:01:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2020 1:18:38 PM EDT
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Neat, I dont know if these questions can be answered, but will the receivers be sold separately, or only in a complete gun package? And does it use a proprietary BCG?
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Posted: 1/28/2020 2:13:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What did they screw up? Also, why is it so damn hard to flare the magwells!? FFS it causes no problems and is a must for competition, yet, tiny little magwells everywhere. I don't like a huge flared magwells. I don't compete, and the flaring that most companies use on lowers is just enough for me. I might be a minority. I think it can look gaudy. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 2:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The magwell is flared on the inside to help guide mags in, I will post a pic when the guns get back in transit from SHOT. The absurd magwell flare on things like the Sig MPX are for guys who can't hit a urinal at two feet.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:12:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sven, any chance the receiver sets could be sold separately or compatible with the CMMG kit? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:04:33 AM EDT
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@Wandering_minstrel
@jsha22lr @jp660605 Figure I can answer all the questions at once in a single post since they are all in the same vein. 
The bolt group is essentially a modified AR-15 9mm blowback bolt carrier. Modifications are necessary to make it interface properly with the Scorpion EVO magazine. I can't go into much detail on the bolt modifications at this point (we don't want to give too much away to the competition on a public forum) but the blowback carrier is the only one that can take the required modifications. The upper and lower receiver have standard AR-15 takedown pin, trigger group locations, and a standard AR-15 upper would mount to the lower (although the profiles would not match at the interface). Scorpion EVO magazines will not fit into a standard AR-15 upper receiver as they are wider than the clearance cuts made in the upper receiver, hence why there is also a dedicated upper in addition to the lower. Wraithworks is pretty open to customer input and feedback, and I will let them know that there is potential interest in the uppers/lowers being sold separately. FYI, none of the above is meant to come off as rude, hopefully it does not. Let me know if I can answer any other questions. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 4:26:33 AM EDT
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The second I saw this, I was instantly interested.
I love the design elements. Super cool ambi features. Do we have a price point for this thing yet? EDIT: Watched the rest of the video. Sub 1k....color me intrigued. If it can fall in the neighborhood of the FM9 stuff, that would be amazing. Also, as mentioned, if this could be made to interface with a modified CMMG bolt kit, that would be the bees knees. |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 4:30:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The magwell is flared on the inside to help guide mags in, I will post a pic when the guns get back in transit from SHOT. The absurd magwell flare on things like the Sig MPX are for guys who can't hit a urinal at two feet.
Sven Manticore Arms Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What did they screw up? Also, why is it so damn hard to flare the magwells!? FFS it causes no problems and is a must for competition, yet, tiny little magwells everywhere. The absurd magwell flare on things like the Sig MPX are for guys who can't hit a urinal at two feet.
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Posted: 1/29/2020 9:57:52 PM EDT
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I really like this. Did I miss it, When should these be around to buy?
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:35:04 AM EDT
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I really like this. Did I miss it, When should these be around to buy? Wraithworks plans to have guns ready for purchase and shipping by NRAAM in April. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 11:59:33 AM EDT
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Do companies have to pay royalties to CZ for using their magazine end dimensions or is that even a thing?
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Posted: 2/1/2020 10:10:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wraithworks plans to have guns ready for purchase and shipping by NRAAM in April. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 2:35:09 AM EDT
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If it works with the CMMG RDB system I'm definitely interested.
Either the SP9A3, the PSA MP5, or whatever ar15 scorpion mag lower that is compatible with the RDB system; whichever comes out first and works well will get my money. If it's just a regular blowback, no interest. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 7:45:25 AM EDT
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I don't know if I will be able to hold onto my tax refund until April.
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Posted: 2/14/2020 12:32:26 AM EDT
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So glad to see this concept coming to market, and I'll agree with the others, in that if it can be made to work with my CMMG RDB setup, I will be ordering a receiver set and rail ASAP.
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Posted: 3/26/2020 9:39:45 PM EDT
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Anyone heard anymore about these?
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Posted: 3/26/2020 10:30:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone heard anymore about these? @jppaul16438 Still coming, just takes time to make everything.  Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 11:12:24 PM EDT
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Following. I was dead set on adding a PSA AR-V until I saw the reciever sets.
I need this to add go my Foxtrot and Stribog. Any interest in making a lower that works with Stribog uppers too? ?? |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 7:55:16 PM EDT
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I’m wondering if this thing is still even a go/in production. I haven’t seen any updates on social media or mention of it anywhere.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m wondering if this thing is still even a go/in production. I haven’t seen any updates on social media or mention of it anywhere. Did you bother emailing the company to see if they had anything to say? |
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Posted: 4/28/2020 10:30:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m wondering if this thing is still even a go/in production. I haven’t seen any updates on social media or mention of it anywhere. Yes, it is still going into production. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 8:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Yes, it is still going into production. Sven Manticore Arms Great to hear, I’m still in for wanting a receiver set to build from! I did try emailing them, enthusiastically waiting a reply. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:54:15 PM EDT
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I’m partial to the EMTAN Scorpion mag lowers.... unfortunately they’ll never be imported from Israel.
 
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Posted: 8/20/2020 7:39:44 AM EDT
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It’s been 4 months since the last update. Any news?
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Posted: 8/20/2020 10:05:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m partial to the EMTAN Scorpion mag lowers.... unfortunately they’ll never be imported from Israel. https://i.postimg.cc/Yk18W7jB/271-BF192-93-BA-4740-A810-7-A5948720-C3-F.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xYrt88fP/7-FB9-B428-5-DD3-44-EE-A070-54-FBDC490243.jpg EMTAN pretty much nailed it from the start. Sucks we can't get them in the US. I wonder if Quarter Circle 10 is working on a scorpion mag lower, as their aesthetics are more along the lines of the EMTAN 9 than any other company. |
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Posted: 8/20/2020 10:09:36 AM EDT
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A couple guys have already posted about getting the NFA Scorpion mag lower here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/New-NFA-S-9-Lower-Scorpion-mags-Pics-review-and-build-in-progress-with-CMMG-RDB-UPDATE-8-6-/15-754694/
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Posted: 8/21/2020 8:13:13 PM EDT
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I like it one of the more interesting cool thing to come along in the past months.
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