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Posted: 7/15/2018 7:40:45 PM EDT
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Sweet setup!
 I love the compactness of the TP9. I have a TP9 suppressor and Octane 9 on the way from Scott right now. As soon as the GHM9 Compact hits, I'm all in. There's no such thing as too many PCC's. IMO an over abundance of PCC's is a good problem to have.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 7:10:31 AM EDT
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Well the SBR tax stamp finally came back for my B&T TP9-N. I put on the factory vertical grip and swapped out the B&T folding stock with tail hook for a B&T sliding stock with tail hook. The tax stamp for the TP9 suppressor ought to be coming in any day now so I am pretty excited that my wait is almost over. I really like the TP9 sliding stock... I know my opinion is not shared by some the postings above but I think most of the negative comments are a little off base. I purchased everything including the sliding stock from Scott at THSF... as far as I am concerned he is the best in the business and I invite everyone to give him a try... you won't regret it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/121296/B_T_TP9-N_sliding_stock_Tail_Hook-608877.jpg |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 2:11:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good looking setup. I like the brace a lot better than the folder as well. While it does add extra length, it's still the same length as an MP5K with a folder. 
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Posted: 7/16/2018 2:39:19 PM EDT
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I believe, Top_Secret is referring to the overall length of TP9 collapsible brace in the collapsed position compared to the MP5K folding stock in the folded position.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 5:22:33 PM EDT
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I believe, Top_Secret is referring to the overall length of TP9 collapsible brace in the collapsed position compared to the MP5K folding stock in the folded position. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 5:55:19 PM EDT
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Ah, words matter. "With a folder" doesn't mean the same thing as "when folded". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe, Top_Secret is referring to the overall length of TP9 collapsible brace in the collapsed position compared to the MP5K folding stock in the folded position. 
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Posted: 7/17/2018 6:37:54 AM EDT
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Well the SBR tax stamp finally came back for my B&T TP9-N. I put on the factory vertical grip and swapped out the B&T folding stock with tail hook for a B&T sliding stock with tail hook. The tax stamp for the TP9 suppressor ought to be coming in any day now so I am pretty excited that my wait is almost over. I really like the TP9 sliding stock... I know my opinion is not shared by some the postings above but I think most of the negative comments are a little off base. I purchased everything including the sliding stock from Scott at THSF... as far as I am concerned he is the best in the business and I invite everyone to give him a try... you won't regret it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/121296/B_T_TP9-N_sliding_stock_Tail_Hook-608877.jpg |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 8:11:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is THSF an abbreviation for Tar Heel State Firearms? Also, that is a fantastic looking gun. I have always wanted one but was always put off that you couldnt get the original style grip. Now that is solved i may one day pick one up. |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 6:39:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2018 6:40:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Cell phone double tap.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:13:30 AM EDT
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TP9 silencer finally cleared. Can’t wait.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:15:54 AM EDT
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TP9 silencer finally cleared. Can’t wait. 
What was your rough date it went to ATF? Still waiting on mine. 
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:48:21 AM EDT
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Late December I believe. Still too long.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:41:58 PM EDT
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Late December I believe. Still too long. There are ZERO numbers on the TP9 silencer anywhere. You'd be doing the internet a great service. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:51:31 PM EDT
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My dealer just got my TP9 suppressor, haven't even sent the Form 4 in yet
It's going to to be a long year.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 4:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You you still have your meter? Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE test it against your APC9 or MP5 at muzzle and ear? Using the same ammo preferably. There are ZERO numbers on the TP9 silencer anywhere. You'd be doing the internet a great service. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 9:23:27 AM EDT
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Could someone with a TP9 please take some measurments of the stock attachment area? I think that rear end mounting system would be great on other platforms, now that there's TP9 brace adapters afoot. It also looks pretty simple to replicate.
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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:38:51 PM EDT
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Could someone with a TP9 please take some measurments of the stock attachment area? I think that rear end mounting system would be great on other platforms, now that there's TP9 brace adapters afoot. It also looks pretty simple to replicate. |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 3:20:44 AM EDT
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The actual attachment platform shelf is identical on the TP9, KH9, GHM9, GHM9 Compact, and P26. The receiver bodies vary of course, obviously with the TP9 and P26 but the attachment shelf dimensions are the same on all the above mentioned platforms Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could someone with a TP9 please take some measurments of the stock attachment area? I think that rear end mounting system would be great on other platforms, now that there's TP9 brace adapters afoot. It also looks pretty simple to replicate. If they're all the same, all the more reason to get those specs drawn up & made public. More demand for B&T stuff can only be a good thing (so maybe someone will make B&T pattern SMG mags for less than 40$) |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:31:39 PM EDT
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TP9 Silencer on both the TP9-N and APC9. You guys are getting the first data.
147gr Ranger JHP 82 78% Humidity B&T TP9 N MILSTD Muzzle 130+ 126.1 126.4 127.2 124.9 127.2 130+ 127.1 126 126.6 127.9 128 127.5 bolt hold open Rt Ear 130+ 136.1 133.6 135.5 134.9 Lt Ear 127.9 126.3 125.4 125.6 126.1 APC9 MILSTD Muzzle 129.8 127.6 130+ 127.7 130+ 128.4 127.9 126.9 126.5 126.4 129.8 128.6 Rt Ear 130+ 134.7 138 133.4 138.8 136.2 Lt Ear 132.4 129.8 135.1 129.9 131.8 133.1 |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:53:59 AM EDT
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My dealer just got my TP9 suppressor, haven't even sent the Form 4 in yet It's going to to be a long year.
Thanks goloud for getting decibel numbers! Looking forward to the full post this weekend.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 11:36:06 AM EDT
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Well you might have it by Christmas according to current numbers.
Thanks goloud for getting decibel numbers! Looking forward to the full post this weekend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My dealer just got my TP9 suppressor, haven't even sent the Form 4 in yet It's going to to be a long year.
Thanks goloud for getting decibel numbers! Looking forward to the full post this weekend. Thanks for the data goloud, |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:09:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be an awesome Christmas gift. I can't make sense of the Form 4 turnaround times right now. Form 1s seem to be trending down, a lot of 120 day range times. I sent a Hk53 Form 4 in early March and would be ecstatic if I had it in September. Thanks for the data goloud, 
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Posted: 7/26/2018 8:51:16 PM EDT
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I really dig the collapsible brace with tail hook. The tail hook is in a much better location and actually works well one handed in the collapsed position. The side folder forced the muzzle to point up when I used it as it was designed. The collapsible brace also fits better in my case better than the side folder brace. It has a bit slimmer width than the side folder in it's folded configuration. |
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Posted: 7/28/2018 8:49:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2018 9:02:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2018 2:44:40 AM EDT
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How's the blowback on the suppressor? Any discernible gas in the face?
I've seen a ton of people say the TP9 suppresses poorly and blasts gas back at you - but I'm guessing that's because they don't use the dedicated TP9 can? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 2:26:54 AM EDT
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wouldn't a micro uzi be smaller?
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Posted: 8/2/2018 11:27:02 AM EDT
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wouldn't a micro uzi be smaller? I'm biased and need a reason not to buy the Pro. But, YMMV. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 6:19:23 PM EDT
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Yup. The Uzi Pro isn't nearly as refined. I'm biased and need a reason not to buy the Pro. But, YMMV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wouldn't a micro uzi be smaller? I'm biased and need a reason not to buy the Pro. But, YMMV. The truth is it’s “lunchbox” small, suppresses nicely and is build like a tank - you can hammer nails with it. It is heavy and has a stapler-like trigger, but the Pros are my typical backpack gun. They have integrated rails, cheap and sturdy mags and a completely reliable (my pistol has over 3000 rounds of trash ammo through it and to never failed or been cleaned). My only complaint is that I had to get the barrels threaded to suppress them. If you can get one with the factory folder, the Tailhook fits right on - looks factory slick and is rock solid. ETA: if it’s not clear, I have a particular fondness for the Uzi. It’s heavy, but it is surdier than basically any sub-gun I own. As much as I love my TP9s (I’ve owned them since the DSA import days), the Uzi is simply a tougher weapon and one I am am unconcerned about when lugging it around in a backpack or even a briefcase. The TP9, which is unusually complex, is still composed of more fragile parts and prone to breakage (I’ve had to replace rear sights and one charging handle). The Uzi would probably survive being run over or dropped off the roof of a house into pavement. |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 11:12:53 AM EDT
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Here’s something to mess up your day - I have a bunch of 9mm sub guns, most are SBRs: 2x TP9s, Scorpion, APC9, GHM9 compact, KH9, P26, Uzi Model A, Mp5k, MPA930DG, 2x MPXs, and 4 AR-9 variants. I also own two Uzi Pros - one is a pistol with a folding Tailhook brace and one is an SBR. The truth is it’s “lunchbox” small, suppresses nicely and is build like a tank - you can hammer nails with it. It is heavy and has a stapler-like trigger, but the Pros are my typical backpack gun. They have integrated rails, cheap and sturdy mags and a completely reliable (my pistol has over 3000 rounds of trash ammo through it and to never failed or been cleaned). My only complaint is that I had to get the barrels threaded to suppress them. If you can get one with the factory folder, the Tailhook fits right on - looks factory slick and is rock solid. ETA: if it’s not clear, I have a particular fondness for the Uzi. It’s heavy, but it is surdier than basically any sub-gun I own. As much as I love my TP9s (I’ve owned them since the DSA import days), the Uzi is simply a tougher weapon and one I am am unconcerned about when lugging it around in a backpack or even a briefcase. The TP9, which is unusually complex, is still composed of more fragile parts and prone to breakage (I’ve had to replace rear sights and one charging handle). The Uzi would probably survive being run over or dropped off the roof of a house into pavement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wouldn't a micro uzi be smaller? I'm biased and need a reason not to buy the Pro. But, YMMV. The truth is it’s “lunchbox” small, suppresses nicely and is build like a tank - you can hammer nails with it. It is heavy and has a stapler-like trigger, but the Pros are my typical backpack gun. They have integrated rails, cheap and sturdy mags and a completely reliable (my pistol has over 3000 rounds of trash ammo through it and to never failed or been cleaned). My only complaint is that I had to get the barrels threaded to suppress them. If you can get one with the factory folder, the Tailhook fits right on - looks factory slick and is rock solid. ETA: if it’s not clear, I have a particular fondness for the Uzi. It’s heavy, but it is surdier than basically any sub-gun I own. As much as I love my TP9s (I’ve owned them since the DSA import days), the Uzi is simply a tougher weapon and one I am am unconcerned about when lugging it around in a backpack or even a briefcase. The TP9, which is unusually complex, is still composed of more fragile parts and prone to breakage (I’ve had to replace rear sights and one charging handle). The Uzi would probably survive being run over or dropped off the roof of a house into pavement. 
I agree that the Uzi is more robust. The stock and charging handle on the MP9/TP9 is ridiculously weak. If you haven't, the second gen handle is a nice replacement. I have a complete top end for my TP9 and all the consumables that the armorers manual recommends for the 5000 round service interval, twice over. I was a bit panicked when DS Arms ceased importation. Worth the peace of mind IMHO. It is interesting how the MP9 and Uzi Pro fill the same niche and size envelope in very different ways...... |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 12:22:08 PM EDT
[#32]
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You did mess up my day. To the tune of a little over $1000.00. I was going to get a P26 locally and now a Pro is on its way. I'm going to have to get a lunchbox to put it in.
I agree that the Uzi is more robust. The stock and charging handle on the MP9/TP9 is ridiculously weak. If you haven't, the second gen handle is a nice replacement. I have a complete top end for my TP9 and all the consumables that the armorers manual recommends for the 5000 round service interval, twice over. I was a bit panicked when DS Arms ceased importation. Worth the peace of mind IMHO. It is interesting how the MP9 and Uzi Pro fill the same niche and size envelope in very different ways...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wouldn't a micro uzi be smaller? I'm biased and need a reason not to buy the Pro. But, YMMV. The truth is it’s “lunchbox” small, suppresses nicely and is build like a tank - you can hammer nails with it. It is heavy and has a stapler-like trigger, but the Pros are my typical backpack gun. They have integrated rails, cheap and sturdy mags and a completely reliable (my pistol has over 3000 rounds of trash ammo through it and to never failed or been cleaned). My only complaint is that I had to get the barrels threaded to suppress them. If you can get one with the factory folder, the Tailhook fits right on - looks factory slick and is rock solid. ETA: if it’s not clear, I have a particular fondness for the Uzi. It’s heavy, but it is surdier than basically any sub-gun I own. As much as I love my TP9s (I’ve owned them since the DSA import days), the Uzi is simply a tougher weapon and one I am am unconcerned about when lugging it around in a backpack or even a briefcase. The TP9, which is unusually complex, is still composed of more fragile parts and prone to breakage (I’ve had to replace rear sights and one charging handle). The Uzi would probably survive being run over or dropped off the roof of a house into pavement.
I agree that the Uzi is more robust. The stock and charging handle on the MP9/TP9 is ridiculously weak. If you haven't, the second gen handle is a nice replacement. I have a complete top end for my TP9 and all the consumables that the armorers manual recommends for the 5000 round service interval, twice over. I was a bit panicked when DS Arms ceased importation. Worth the peace of mind IMHO. It is interesting how the MP9 and Uzi Pro fill the same niche and size envelope in very different ways...... |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 9:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congrats on the purchase - do some wrist curls! You went down the same route I did with my TP9s. I ordered all consumables from Wolverine Supply in Canada - they were the only ones that had parts kits at the time. Also replaced my SBR upper with an Mp9 marked upper and rail. I have a second gen charging handle on the way and have added the awesome Techsmith foregrip to the SBR. The TP9s are still favorites of mine, but I just love the rough perfection of the Uzi. Congrats again! |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 12:49:22 PM EDT
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Any word on when the sliding stocks are coming?
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Posted: 8/19/2018 4:10:06 PM EDT
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I think I finally have it the way I like it. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 4:20:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Very nice setup!
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Posted: 8/19/2018 6:12:46 PM EDT
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I feel like my Form 1 is taking forever...
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Posted: 8/19/2018 6:19:42 PM EDT
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I feel like my Form 1 is taking forever... Form 4s are another story, there’s an obvious bottle neck in the Form 4 system, though it’s amazing how lightening fast they cash the $200 checks, no bottle neck in that department. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 6:38:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re getting many down to the 100 day range which is a vast improvement, but I feel your pain, I’m waiting on few as well. Form 4s are another story, there’s an obvious bottle neck in the Form 4 system, though it’s amazing how lightening fast they cash the $200 checks, no bottle neck in that department. Same here on the Form 4s. I have two from January outstanding. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 11:09:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryThat looks fantastic. A very nice CA compliant blaster.
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Posted: 8/19/2018 11:21:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks fantastic. A very nice CA compliant blaster. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 7:34:48 PM EDT
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Just got my form 1 in the mail for my TP9-N. Check was cashed on April 15th, approved August 10th, recieved in mail August 22nd. It was an individual not a trust. Hope this helps with timelines.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 7:49:31 PM EDT
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Just got my form 1 in the mail for my TP9-N. Check was cashed on April 15th, approved August 10th, recieved in mail August 22nd. It was an individual not a trust. Hope this helps with timelines.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:56:49 PM EDT
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Still makes me a bit sad I don't have my can yet, but congrats! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just got my form 1 in the mail for my TP9-N. Check was cashed on April 15th, approved August 10th, recieved in mail August 22nd. It was an individual not a trust. Hope this helps with timelines. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:00:43 PM EDT
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I’ve been periodically watching for these to be in stock. I noticed THSF had them listed today and just ordered one. Wondering if anyone has one of these and what they think about it? The gun with suppressor can apparently be mounted inside and fired from inside the bag and/or “quickly deployed from the bag.”
Kind of a novelty I know, but appeals to a B&T geek like me. Always wanted an MP5 briefcase. 
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:30:39 PM EDT
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I’ve been periodically watching for these to be in stock. I noticed THSF had them listed today and just ordered one. Wondering if anyone has one of these and what they think about it? The gun with suppressor can apparently be mounted inside and fired from inside the bag and/or “quickly deployed from the bag.” Kind of a novelty I know, but appeals to a B&T geek like me. Always wanted an MP5 briefcase.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/D86903AF-B5A7-410A-B2CB-E7902D35B015-649896.JPG There was a good video on YouYube from Mixflip that briefly showed the bag, but it looks like he took it down. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:42:25 PM EDT
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I’ve been periodically watching for these to be in stock. I noticed THSF had them listed today and just ordered one. Wondering if anyone has one of these and what they think about it? The gun with suppressor can apparently be mounted inside and fired from inside the bag and/or “quickly deployed from the bag.” Kind of a novelty I know, but appeals to a B&T geek like me. Always wanted an MP5 briefcase.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/D86903AF-B5A7-410A-B2CB-E7902D35B015-649896.JPG |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:52:19 PM EDT
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Dirtyharriett, I’ll be waiting for your report. I’ll likely have mine the middle of next week, unfortunately I have no idea when I will have my TP9 suppressor at the current snails pace of Form 4s
.but when I do, I’ll be ready to go full B&T clandestine op 
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Already paid for mine... just waiting for it to be shipped to me... will give a report after it arrives. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 6:33:24 PM EDT
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I have one. It’s definitely cool. I love it. I’m going to meter the setup and see how quiet it gets.
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