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Posted: 5/5/2017 3:50:43 PM EDT
Please tell me about this little TMP Clone? I have heard they are extremely light weight to where they can be easily carried in a hip holster, How is the recoil on it being so light, and I'm also aware of the proprietary can that they use. But i wanna know more, how is accuracy and such with them?
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 4:42:12 PM EDT
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SBR w Custom fabricated replica of TMP front grip by Clint Lynch.   Recoil is snappy due to light overall weight.  Magazines are expensive and fragile compared to glock or magpul polymers.  Red dot sight a must.  Very compact and easily concealed.  accurate.  take down for cleaning is a bit tricky the first couple of times.

fun fact...used by the French version of POTUS Detail, used by Germans in Afgn during my time w them.
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 4:52:11 PM EDT
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SBR w Custom fabricated replica of TMP front grip by Clint Lynch.  Recoil is snappy due to light overall weight.  Magazines are expensive and fragile compared to glock or magpul polymers.  Red dot sight a must.  Very compact and easily concealed.  accurate.  take down for cleaning is a bit tricky the first couple of times.

fun fact...used by the French version of POTUS Detail, used by Germans in Afgn during my time w them.
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I've heard the triggers on them are pretty bad, any truth to that?
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 5:41:21 PM EDT
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SBR w Custom fabricated replica of TMP front grip by Clint Lynch.  Recoil is snappy due to light overall weight.  Magazines are expensive and fragile compared to glock or magpul polymers.  Red dot sight a must.  Very compact and easily concealed.  accurate.  take down for cleaning is a bit tricky the first couple of times.

fun fact...used by the French version of POTUS Detail, used by Germans in Afgn during my time w them.
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Do you have any more detail about the custom front grip? The difficulty of finding a front grip that looks "right" on the TP9 is pretty much the only hesitation I have about picking one up and SBRing it.
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 8:06:28 PM EDT
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I owned one for about a month. The trigger is horrible, even worse than my UZI. The iron sights are an after thought. On the plus side, it is super easy to SBR since the folding stock just screws on.

Not worth the price IMHO.
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 9:49:42 PM EDT
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I've got two early imports with threaded barrel shrouds; one is SBR'd. My triggers are mediocre - they're essentially two stage triggers, but with not allot of tactile feedback. Once you learn the reset, you can get rounds off fast. Not sure why the above poster said recoil is snappy, mine aren't at all and, in fact, the rotating locking mechanism is designed to mitigate recoil and does so effectively.

A red dot is great. Mags aren't cheap, but they're also pretty robust. I've dropped mine and they've been fine.

The best feature of the TP9 is the fact that it truly Suppressed beautifully with a high-volume can. I've got a Thompson Machine SG2 with a custom mount that turns it into a pellet gun.

I like mine allot. It's unique in the market except for maybe the MP7 in terms of weight, though the TP9 is much smaller than the MP7. The only PDW I prefer is the PS90.
Link Posted: 5/6/2017 8:40:31 AM EDT
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I just received my TP9 about 2 weeks ago.  The size and ergonomics are exceptional.  I'm still playing around with red dots, but currently tossed on a Triicon MRO.  I like the HEIGHT of the MRO because it lines up really fast without a Brace/Stock. Speaking of Brace....I contacted SB tactical this week and a Brace should be available by the end of summer for the TP9. The mags seem decently built, but like any foreign exotic weapon they are pricey. I've been buying MP5 mags for years so I'm use to it.  I also plan to buy other B&T subguns over the next 12 months to complete this portion of my collection.

The trigger is not NEARLY as bad some guys keep saying.  Actually, for what this is its perfect.  Is this little sub gun suppose to have the accuracy of a SCAR, ACR or AR with $300.00 triggers? Of course not - its not what these weapons are designed for.


Few quick pics of mine




Link Posted: 5/6/2017 8:42:11 AM EDT
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I just sold the old incarnation I had (SPP 9), I liked it ok but I wanted to SBR and the only stocks floating around were $400. I used the money to buy the P26, kept most
of my mags from the SPP since they fit the P26. Stock to sbr the P26 is less expensive. Also tough to find anything to put on the "barrel", shroud is over the barrel, pretty
strange setup.
Link Posted: 5/6/2017 11:42:16 AM EDT
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Do you have any more detail about the custom front grip? The difficulty of finding a front grip that looks "right" on the TP9 is pretty much the only hesitation I have about picking one up and SBRing it.
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A very talented member here made an exact duplicate of a factory TMP front grip that bolts onto the SBR.  Send me a text at 419/371-3176 and I'll be glad to text you some pictures.
Link Posted: 5/6/2017 6:42:53 PM EDT
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A very talented member here made an exact duplicate of a factory TMP front grip that bolts onto the SBR.  Send me a text at 419/371-3176 and I'll be glad to text you some pictures.
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18B30 was kind enough to share pictures of his TP9 with me. I'll post them below so everyone else can be as envious as I am!











Link Posted: 5/6/2017 10:04:54 PM EDT
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WOW, how much did that run and where can the rest of us get one?
Link Posted: 5/6/2017 10:18:35 PM EDT
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I really want one, but the price keeps me away.
I like the cross between handgun and sub gun.
What's the cheapest you can get one of these for these days?
Link Posted: 5/6/2017 11:47:50 PM EDT
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18B30 was kind enough to share pictures of his TP9 with me. I'll post them below so everyone else can be as envious as I am!

http://i.imgur.com/GCrLw7Hh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/2GzqCHch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CVaclKWh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/qOWUjUEh.jpg

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Thats trick right there..... Awsome work!
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 12:08:59 AM EDT
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18B30 was kind enough to share pictures of his TP9 with me. I'll post them below so everyone else can be as envious as I am!

http://i.imgur.com/GCrLw7Hh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/2GzqCHch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CVaclKWh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/qOWUjUEh.jpg

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That looks great!

More info please!  I plan to get a TP9 over the next year or so and SBR it.  I would love to have that front grip.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 8:10:56 AM EDT
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WOW, how much did that run and where can the rest of us get one?
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It was a one off beta experiment.  One off production will not be cheap.  But it will be worth it.  I tried the other options and cut down broom handles.  Mr. Lynch is an artist!
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 9:02:58 AM EDT
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Ron, it does look fantastic!
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 11:28:01 AM EDT
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Thank ET,
   
      But all the credit goes to Mr. Lynch, an extremely talented and interesting cat.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 11:40:08 AM EDT
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That custom front grip is what I've been looking for for my TP9 for YEARS.

Everything I've tried is clunky and not very ergonomic. It would be great if the creator of that custom grip would be willing to make a few more, is he a member here or might you have his contact info?

Oh and just to add to the thread:

Link Posted: 5/7/2017 12:30:50 PM EDT
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I would purchase that front grip as well. Nicely done!

Link Posted: 5/7/2017 3:48:47 PM EDT
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      But all the credit goes to Mr. Lynch, an extremely talented and interesting cat.
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LOL... Now I can only imagine.


Ron, Seriously, keep us posted if he has ANY interest in doing a "limited" run.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 8:38:30 PM EDT
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That custom front grip is what I've been looking for for my TP9 for YEARS.

Everything I've tried is clunky and not very ergonomic. It would be great if the creator of that custom grip would be willing to make a few more, is he a member here or might you have his contact info?

Oh and just to add to the thread:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/18357/IMG-0653-203416.jpg
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I've spoken to Mr. Lynch about making a limited run.  Stay tuned.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 9:00:39 PM EDT
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Thanks.

I know the market is very, very limited for TP9 proprietary parts but it would be fucking boss to have a grip like this available.

Edit: Heck, he might want to consider doing a kickstarter, a group buy or something for the project. I'm definitely in for one and I bet a few others here would be as well.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 9:24:49 PM EDT
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Thanks.

I know the market is very, very limited for TP9 proprietary parts but it would be fucking boss to have a grip like this available.

Edit: Heck, he might want to consider doing a kickstarter, a group buy or something for the project. I'm definitely in for one and I bet a few others here would be as well.
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100% in here as well.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 11:03:54 PM EDT
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Count me in!!!
Link Posted: 5/8/2017 1:39:53 PM EDT
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18B30 was kind enough to share pictures of his TP9 with me. I'll post them below so everyone else can be as envious as I am!

http://i.imgur.com/GCrLw7Hh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/2GzqCHch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CVaclKWh.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/qOWUjUEh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8TwNfW5h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OuFqF2Sh.jpg
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Link Posted: 5/9/2017 1:21:22 AM EDT
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I don't have a TP9 only because they put the serial number in the wrong place, and you can't add a proper vertical fore grip.... Until now.  If I can buy that grip, I will buy the rest to go on it.

/take_my_money.jpg/
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 9:42:16 AM EDT
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Absolutely love mine.  I started a thread that no one responded to about the generations of TP9 available in the US.  We're on Gen III.

I wouldn't trade mine for the world, but, it has it's limitations.  Nothing is as small and light as the TP9 other than the Uzi Pro.

The Swiss Army recently adopted the MP9 as their new subgun.  That gives me confidence in it.

My DS Arms import needed to run ~250 rounds through it before it "loosened up a bit".  I have had ZERO malfunctions after those 250 rounds.  


ETA:   I'm in for a foregrip!

ETA:  I have to respectfully disagree about the magazines being fragile.  I have purposefully kept a 30 rounder loaded to 30 rounds (B+T is VERY clear about NOT loading to capacity, but, to load to 29 Rounds) for going on a year with no spreading of the feed lips.
Link Posted: 5/9/2017 6:49:51 PM EDT
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Im in also.

I would pay a crazy amount of money for that foregrip.




Eta:  where are you guys engraving your info?
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 9:03:29 AM EDT
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I'd be in for a very grip also for my SBR.
Link Posted: 5/10/2017 5:26:09 PM EDT
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I had the TP9 but had a lot of problems getting it to run right?

Had an original Steyr SPP that ran great, found one of the detachable TMP shoulder stocks a while back when I got it form 1'd.
super handy...wish I still had it. Now i have the stock sitting here with no gun
Link Posted: 5/11/2017 9:55:53 AM EDT
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I had the TP9 but had a lot of problems getting it to run right?

Had an original Steyr SPP that ran great, found one of the detachable TMP shoulder stocks a while back when I got it form 1'd.
super handy...wish I still had it. Now i have the stock sitting here with no gun
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What issues did you have with your TP9?
Link Posted: 5/13/2017 11:56:28 AM EDT
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Has any one had any experiences with the B&T suppressor on a TP9? Hows gas to the face/ volume reduction?
Link Posted: 5/15/2017 1:43:56 PM EDT
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Thanks.

I know the market is very, very limited for TP9 proprietary parts but it would be fucking boss to have a grip like this available.

Edit: Heck, he might want to consider doing a kickstarter, a group buy or something for the project. I'm definitely in for one and I bet a few others here would be as well.
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I've spoken to Mr. Lynch about making a limited run.  Stay tuned.
Thanks.

I know the market is very, very limited for TP9 proprietary parts but it would be fucking boss to have a grip like this available.

Edit: Heck, he might want to consider doing a kickstarter, a group buy or something for the project. I'm definitely in for one and I bet a few others here would be as well.
I'm 110% down for a group buy or kickstarter.  I'd pay $200 all day for that.  I was very disappointed with the factory B+T foregrip.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 10:20:19 AM EDT
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Just keeping this thread alive.

@18B30 is the custom grip you had made rapid prototyped or was it made by hand? If it was rapidpro, might the creator be willing to share (or sell) the source files?
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 12:09:55 PM EDT
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I spoke w Mr. lynch last evening and asked him to enter the thread.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 10:19:58 PM EDT
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I had the TP9 but had a lot of problems getting it to run right?

Had an original Steyr SPP that ran great, found one of the detachable TMP shoulder stocks a while back when I got it form 1'd.
super handy...wish I still had it. Now i have the stock sitting here with no gun
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Can you show us a picture of the stock, or describe it?  Does it fold?

Thanks
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:38:24 AM EDT
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Thank you Ron!
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:20:07 AM EDT
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Can you show us a picture of the stock, or describe it?  Does it fold?

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Steyr SPP/TMP fixed stock

B+T used to advertise the same style fixed stock for the MP9 series.  I tried to source one from Canada ~5 years ago with no luck.  I haven't seen the B+T stocks advertised for some time.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 8:05:53 PM EDT
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Thanks,

That seems like a lot for a fixed stock.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 6:20:44 AM EDT
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Here's the B&T fixed stock at Wolverine Supplies in Canada, listed for $185 CAD = $137 USD. Not in stock though.
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/productdetail/bthbt30189_bandt-stock-fixed-to-bt-mp9tp9

BT-30189 is the part number.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:34:43 AM EDT
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Here's the B&T fixed stock at Wolverine Supplies in Canada, listed for $185 CAD = $137 USD. Not in stock though.
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/productdetail/bthbt30189_bandt-stock-fixed-to-bt-mp9tp9

BT-30189 is the part number.
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I don't recall exactly what happened, but, laws changed and "machine gun parts" (that's what they referred to them as) couldn't be exported to the USA.  

....worth a try though.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 11:19:30 AM EDT
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I am 100% in too. Would love this for my SBR. I've went so many routes on the front grip and still am not happy.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 2:42:04 AM EDT
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I'm also totally in for a VFG for the TP9.

If they are digitized in CAD / Solidworks, perhaps a run 3D printed out of carbon fiber infused plastic? I believe Shapeways and a few other 3D printing services offer this material and the ability to do "on demand" ordering of products.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 12:29:13 AM EDT
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I am interested in the TP9/TMP Grip as well.  I have money in hand and I am 100% committed.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 1:29:03 PM EDT
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I also am 100% in for a foregrip or two.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 1:57:40 PM EDT
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I think several of us are in so far, but its been two weeks and the grips' creator has yet to even show up to say he'd actually make more.

This whole endeavor could be for naught.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 3:15:42 PM EDT
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I think several of us are in so far, but its been two weeks and the grips' creator has yet to even show up to say he'd actually make more.

This whole endeavor could be for naught.
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Me and a good friend of mine have been working on creating a small company to sell some aftermarket accessories for firearms. Hopefully you'll see some of our products out soon.
I'm doing the actual designing at the moment. So I might be able to design something similar to what was shown in the thread above.
Now I can't promise that the grip would be on the level the original but I'd be willing to sometime into developing the grip. However the main issue I see is that I don't have a TP9 . Usually when I'm working on designing something I have something to basic my dimensions off of. If you guys would be willing to communicate with me on measurements and feedback. I would be do my best to design a grip.
Also can't promise any sort of price point. It could be anywhere from $10 to $75. This is still way to far out to give any sort of ball part price level.

Anyways let me know.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 3:59:07 PM EDT
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I think several of us are in so far, but its been two weeks and the grips' creator has yet to even show up to say he'd actually make more.

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Please someone make this happen! This would finally complete my TP9.

If I'm wishing, I would love to have storage in the foregrip too.

Thanks-
Shea
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 4:49:56 PM EDT
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Me and a good friend of mine have been working on creating a small company to sell some aftermarket accessories for firearms. Hopefully you'll see some of our products out soon.
I'm doing the actual designing at the moment. So I might be able to design something similar to what was shown in the thread above.
Now I can't promise that the grip would be on the level the original but I'd be willing to sometime into developing the grip. However the main issue I see is that I don't have a TP9 . Usually when I'm working on designing something I have something to basic my dimensions off of. If you guys would be willing to communicate with me on measurements and feedback. I would be do my best to design a grip.
Also can't promise any sort of price point. It could be anywhere from $10 to $75. This is still way to far out to give any sort of ball part price level.

Anyways let me know.
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PM Sent
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 5:36:35 PM EDT
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I'd definitely take a grip aswell
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 9:57:51 PM EDT
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Alright boys and girls. I apologize if I'm stepping on Mr.Lynch's toes but I will take on this challenge. I don't know if there will ever be a finished product so don't start getting your hopes up but I"m going to do my best.

I'm going to need some help though. Not having my own TP9 may prove to be my biggest obstacle. But why not give it a shot?
Some of the dimensions I need are as follows:

Length of the pistol grip, I will make the forward grip slightly smaller and shorter of course but I want something to base it off of.


The distance between the two holes for the screws.
Thread pitch for the screws.

And any info you can give me on the "mounting plate".


http://i.imgur.com/CVaclKWh.jpg?1


Thanks!
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