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Posted: 10/12/2020 10:12:09 PM EDT
I was at a class and it went late. One of the guys had a white phosphorus setup. The last time I tried night vision was the 90’s. This was incredible. It was just like daylight. 60 degrees and raining. Absolutely incredible.
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 10:13:28 PM EDT
Yeah
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 10:31:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2020 10:32:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Sam:
It's white phosphor

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/446803/WP_vs_WP_JPG-1104867.jpg
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Lol. I knew that was coming.
But yeah, white phosphor is pretty cool. As with all night vision, pictures don't do it justice.
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 10:52:30 PM EDT
I agree.  First time I went from green to bluish....I was like “holy sh!t!!!!”
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 11:11:11 PM EDT
Pitch black in the woods. See the deer?Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 11:28:42 PM EDT
Well, really either one is going to light it right the hell up so.....
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 11:43:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sheepdog697:
Pitch black in the woods. See the deer?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/471992/9A07B3A8-2E9D-4009-B14E-FD1304B13066_jpe-1633332.JPG
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Clean pic
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 1:33:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 9:03:32 AM EDT
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White phosphor is pretty dope

For whatever reason, my L3 Filmless WP looks almost blue compared to other L3 filmless WP tubes.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2020 12:07:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Airborne_Infantryman:
White phosphor is pretty dope

For whatever reason, my L3 Filmless WP looks almost blue compared to other L3 filmless WP tubes.

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Its the camera settings. Generally an unlocked white balance.

My l3 uf will look anywhere from blue like that to green almost. I lock it in so they appear more like they do to eye.
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 5:47:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sheepdog697:
Pitch black in the woods. See the deer?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/471992/9A07B3A8-2E9D-4009-B14E-FD1304B13066_jpe-1633332.JPG
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Great pic! And WP is awesome
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 5:51:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/14/2020 5:52:57 PM EDT by chase45]
Ive compared my old green PVS14 to my new WP BNVD quite religiously

While the BNVD tubes really are better, they are not leaps and bounds better, but the difference is noticeable in clarity and low light use(especially low light).

I really feel the WP makes contrasting things much easier for me and it certainly feels easier on my eyes after using them in the woods for a few hours.

Ill never be going back to a green tube voluntarily with any future purchases

WP is the way
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 6:04:57 PM EDT
Another shitty iPotato pic. Almost pitch black room with onboard IR on, after I swapped the tube over to new housing. Focused on bedspread at about 3” away. There’s a cunt hair I need to remove from the innerds towards the left side.

Link Posted: 10/14/2020 6:58:16 PM EDT
I like all of the mfg's WP but L3H really did something magical with unfilmed WP. I think the color plays a big part besides the unfilmed tech.

Link Posted: 10/14/2020 7:12:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chase45:
Ive compared my old green PVS14 to my new WP BNVD quite religiously

While the BNVD tubes really are better, they are not leaps and bounds better, but the difference is noticeable in clarity and low light use(especially low light).

I really feel the WP makes contrasting things much easier for me and it certainly feels easier on my eyes after using them in the woods for a few hours.

Ill never be going back to a green tube voluntarily with any future purchases

WP is the way
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GP can offer good value though from what I've seen. My decision came down to Thinfilm WP BNVDs or Filmless GP(36/35 SN, .2/.3 ebi) DTNVGs for roughly the same cost. I pm'd/emailed a few more experienced members here and other forums and everyone said the Filmless would be the better upgrade over the WP. It would have been another $1500 for Filmless DTNVGs which I'd prefer if costs were equal, but I used that savings towards a laser and was able to stick with my budget.

I'm a newb, but I think good spec/value GP tubes can be a good option for a lot of people.
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 7:13:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:
I like all of the mfg's WP but L3H really did something magical with unfilmed WP. I think the color plays a big part besides the unfilmed tech.

https://i.ibb.co/4JQGY65/B20-D2-F1-F-6-CCD-47-AA-993-D-2-E6652099662.jpg
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That does look quite pretty man
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 7:21:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blackhalo:


GP can offer good value though from what I've seen. My decision came down to Thinfilm WP BNVDs or Filmless GP(36/35 SN, .2/.3 ebi) DTNVGs for roughly the same cost. I pm'd/emailed a few more experienced members here and other forums and everyone said the Filmless would be the better upgrade over the WP. It would have been another $1500 for Filmless DTNVGs which I'd prefer if costs were equal, but I used that savings towards a laser and was able to stick with my budget.

I'm a newb, but I think good spec/value GP tubes can be a good option for a lot of people.
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You did good. I would’ve taken the unfilmed GP with those specs. I don’t have Elbit/ITT GP anymore to compare but I have some L3’s. From memory I prefer L3’s GP color. Could be all in my head however lol
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 7:50:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:


You did good. I would’ve taken the unfilmed GP with those specs. I don’t have Elbit/ITT GP anymore to compare but I have some L3’s. From memory I prefer L3’s GP color. Could be all in my head however lol
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Originally Posted By will-1:
Originally Posted By Blackhalo:


GP can offer good value though from what I've seen. My decision came down to Thinfilm WP BNVDs or Filmless GP(36/35 SN, .2/.3 ebi) DTNVGs for roughly the same cost. I pm'd/emailed a few more experienced members here and other forums and everyone said the Filmless would be the better upgrade over the WP. It would have been another $1500 for Filmless DTNVGs which I'd prefer if costs were equal, but I used that savings towards a laser and was able to stick with my budget.

I'm a newb, but I think good spec/value GP tubes can be a good option for a lot of people.


You did good. I would’ve taken the unfilmed GP with those specs. I don’t have Elbit/ITT GP anymore to compare but I have some L3’s. From memory I prefer L3’s GP color. Could be all in my head however lol



Yep you did good Blackhalo! I have some GP filmless, some very nice GP thin filmed, and have access to some high spec WP thin film. Filmless wins.

I still think green is better Will lol I'm already in the minority because I'm cross dominant so why wouldn't I like green better
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 7:58:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARShooter91:



Yep you did good Blackhalo! I have some GP filmless, some very nice GP thin filmed, and have access to some high spec WP thin film. Filmless wins.

I still think green is better Will lol I'm already in the minority because I'm cross dominant so why wouldn't I like green better
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Heh. Yeah I'm very happy, I wasn't trying to justify what I bought. Just pointing it out for other newbies who might see it. I saw a lot of posts like what I quoted during my research, which had me on the WP or bust train. Took a little more research/emailing smaller vendors and guys like Will to land with what I did.

But since this thread is about WP I'm done and I'm still slightly jealous of the WP bros
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 9:31:56 PM EDT
White or green, filmed or unfilmed, it’s just awesome having some nice gen 3!
Link Posted: 10/14/2020 10:57:14 PM EDT
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White or green, filmed or unfilmed, it’s just awesome having some nice gen 3!
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