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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:59:15 PM EDT
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Browning A-5
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:18:48 PM EDT
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Save up and get a Saiga or get a traditional shotgun.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:39:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Save up and get a Saiga or get a traditional shotgun. Sold my Saiga years ago. Oh well, not paying the current premium for another. I already have an 870. I want another mag fed semi auto, thank you |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 11:02:02 PM EDT
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The VR-80 is a nice shotgun and they've been going in the $700 range. The AR-12 series isn't bad either. If you like bullpups look at the RIA VRBP-100.
I know a couple of people with Panzer arms shotguns and they have ran well. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 3:49:43 AM EDT
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The Chinese Lynx AK pattern shotguns are pretty nice. I wasn't expecting much when I bought it but the build quality was impressive for what I paid. They take saiga mags. They went for $399 during the salad days, I have no idea what they would go for now.
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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:22:17 AM EDT
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I'm headed to a local gun store today &, if they have stock, I will likely end up buying the CD N4S or the Typhoon X12. Hopefully, they have the N4S as I prefer the bullpup.
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Posted: 12/28/2020 6:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Chinese Lynx AK pattern shotguns are pretty nice. I wasn't expecting much when I bought it but the build quality was impressive for what I paid. They take saiga mags. They went for $399 during the salad days, I have no idea what they would go for now. Second the Chinese Lynx 12 from SDS Imports. It seems that $499 is the going rate now. It shares Saiga compatibility for mags and handguards, and takes AK stocks and grips. The gas system is adjustable and has 4 settings to reliably cycle cheap Walmart bulk pack 2 3/4" bird shot up to 3" buckshot. It comes with 1 five round mag, and the SDS 10 round mags I've used are also reliable and a lot cheaper than other Saiga mags out there. I also agree that quality is far better than I expected, but I guess if you think about it, the Chinese have plenty of AK building experience. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:35:35 PM EDT
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Just picked up my CD N4S from my FFL today. My 1st bullpup. Seems solid. Will check it out tomorrow to inspect and lube it up good to break it in. Not bad for the money.
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Posted: 12/28/2020 10:38:41 PM EDT
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Those sweet Chinese AK style ones
Best $400 blaster I have bought |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 11:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just picked up my CD N4S from my FFL today. My 1st bullpup. Seems solid. Will check it out tomorrow to inspect and lube it up good to break it in. Not bad for the money. I picked up an N4S today as well. Ordered some Panzer 10 round mags & a cheap sling from Midway tonight. Still need to find out what inexpensive red dots can handle the recoil. |
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Posted: 12/29/2020 9:45:36 AM EDT
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Was lucky to order 2 10 round mags from CD web site when they had some in stock. Am looking for a red/green laser to mount and probably a light. Not sure if I’ll put a red dot on it yet. Going to buy some cheap shells to break it in and see how the recoil is. After breaking it in, then test it with slugs and 00 buck.
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Posted: 12/29/2020 10:24:07 AM EDT
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Check over on the saiga12 site about those lynx.
A few KB's and soft bolts. Get a S12 and accept no substitute. Or a A5 12 G I know where there is a beater a5 12 gauge for 300 was thinking of picking up and doing a F1 whippet chop. Could only improve the specimen I'm looking at. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 2:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was lucky to order 2 10 round mags from CD web site when they had some in stock. Am looking for a red/green laser to mount and probably a light. Not sure if I’ll put a red dot on it yet. Going to buy some cheap shells to break it in and see how the recoil is. After breaking it in, then test it with slugs and 00 buck. You're supposed to break it in w/the slugs & buck, not birdshot. I ran about 30 shells worth of 00 buck through mine yesterday & no hiccups |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 2:53:48 PM EDT
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I have a tricked out SDS Lynx.
It is worthy. Mrs. O bought it as a good behavior gift, $299 IIRC. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 10:57:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're supposed to break it in w/the slugs & buck, not birdshot. I ran about 30 shells worth of 00 buck through mine yesterday & no hiccups Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was lucky to order 2 10 round mags from CD web site when they had some in stock. Am looking for a red/green laser to mount and probably a light. Not sure if I’ll put a red dot on it yet. Going to buy some cheap shells to break it in and see how the recoil is. After breaking it in, then test it with slugs and 00 buck. You're supposed to break it in w/the slugs & buck, not birdshot. I ran about 30 shells worth of 00 buck through mine yesterday & no hiccups Where did you read that? Didn’t see it in the manual I read today. Separate the upper and lower today. Plan on taking it apart all the way in the next few days. Did you put the fake muzzle break on yours? |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 10:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did you read that? Didn’t see it in the manual I read today. Separate the upper and lower today. Plan on taking it apart all the way in the next few days. Did you put the fake muzzle break on yours? Read that during my research online before I bought it. I did put that on & stripped the allen screw lol now I have to figure out how to get that little pos out |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:21:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Read that during my research online before I bought it. I did put that on & stripped the allen screw lol now I have to figure out how to get that little pos out Went ahead and emailed CD to see what they have to say. Really don't want to waste any good ammo. When I saw in the manual that they called it a fake brake, figured it was junk. More for looks than anything. I did try to install it though. Couldn't get it up to the threads. Broke the rubber O ring in the process. Going to see if there is anything better than that plastic POS fake brake. Have you tried a ammo dump yet? Am still waiting on my 10 round mags I ordered a few weeks ago. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:43:41 PM EDT
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I picked up a AK style shotgun called the Komrad. Pretty sweet with it's short barrel and pistol brace and vertical foregrip. Came factory like this because it's legal. Of course the ATF might change their mind here soon... Grabbed a 20 round drum and it's very fun!! Might even grab a Salvo 12 suppressor for it, ha. Had to polish the bolt group and hammer for smoother cycling. Likes hotter ammo to run reliable. Don't see it as a serious self defense weapon. Just a fun range toy.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 2:54:18 PM EDT
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Got this email back from CD
You should be able to use anything but I think the heavier rounds do help to break it in Thank you Chiappa Firearms USA, LTD. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 8:33:43 PM EDT
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I really like the VEPR-12. It has an automatic bolt hold open and the mags go basically straight in, instead of "AK rocking".
The earliest imports had all the folding stock components too, with just one tack weld fixing the stock open. |
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Posted: 1/1/2021 9:14:11 PM EDT
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Saiga 12 if you want to use the drums, VEPR is not.
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Posted: 1/1/2021 11:18:08 PM EDT
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There's a drum available for the VEPR-12. I haven't tried it.
I like the 8 and 10 round mags. |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 1:25:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI stand corrected. It did not have a drum option a few years ago when I chose. |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 7:09:12 PM EDT
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Tromix
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Went ahead and emailed CD to see what they have to say. Really don't want to waste any good ammo. When I saw in the manual that they called it a fake brake, figured it was junk. More for looks than anything. I did try to install it though. Couldn't get it up to the threads. Broke the rubber O ring in the process. Going to see if there is anything better than that plastic POS fake brake. Have you tried a ammo dump yet? Am still waiting on my 10 round mags I ordered a few weeks ago. My 10 round mags have not arrived yet |
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Posted: 1/3/2021 9:50:39 AM EDT
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Took mine apart yesterday. Didn't remove the barrel. Fairly simple. Oiled it up best I could. The choke is a modified choke. Not listed in the book so had to do some digging for that info. Hope to break it in tomorrow.
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Posted: 1/3/2021 10:15:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/3/2021 6:32:54 PM EDT
[#28]
Carsons makes a IC choke for 00 and slugs, I got one off Ebay for my N4S, fit perfect.
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Posted: 1/3/2021 8:16:15 PM EDT
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Anyone know what recoil pads might fit the N4S?
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Posted: 1/3/2021 10:56:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Carsons makes a IC choke for 00 and slugs, I got one off Ebay for my N4S, fit perfect. Got a link? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:53:09 PM EDT
[#31]
I take it the modified choke cant handle slugs. Waiting on a reply from CD for verification. Sure need a choke that can shoot slugs and 00 buck!
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:44:22 PM EDT
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Got a reply. Minimum is a IM choke for these rifles for slugs.
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:18:43 PM EDT
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Having a hard time finding a cylinder choke for the shotgun. IC choke can shoot slugs but prefer to get a cylinder choke. If someone know who some in stock, please post it here. thanks.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 7:09:39 PM EDT
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Finally found one.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 8:44:39 PM EDT
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Took my N4S to the range again & put some 00 buck through it. No issues once again
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Posted: 1/10/2021 9:40:21 PM EDT
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Sweet. Try slugs? Will wait for my cylinder choke to come in before testing mine out. Want to check out slugs and 00 buck. Checking this site out.
https://leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2368&allids=2364_2368&itemno=SCP-LS289S |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 4:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet. Try slugs? Will wait for my cylinder choke to come in before testing mine out. Want to check out slugs and 00 buck. Checking this site out. https://leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2368&allids=2364_2368&itemno=SCP-LS289S For 00 buckshot get Federal Flite Control full power 9 pellet loads as 1325 fps. This is very stout. If you've not used Flite Control before, know this: it is a game changer. It has a patented wad/ shot cup that cushions the pellets and stays with them longer before separating. It prefers more open chokes like improved cylinder or cylinder. You have to aim this stuff, not merely point it. From my Remington 1100 with 22" IC choked rifle sight barrel, groups at 15 yards (long for inside a home, all 9 pellets are within 3 to 4" (fist size) and all will fit in a 12" square at a full 50 yards. The big hole in the 15 yard target is the wad/shot cup hitting the target sideways after separating from the load. They travel about 25 yards downrange.   |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 4:12:36 PM EDT
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I have real interest in the Ks-12
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Posted: 1/13/2021 4:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat’s hot What’s your ballpark investment? |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 6:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet. Try slugs? Will wait for my cylinder choke to come in before testing mine out. Want to check out slugs and 00 buck. Checking this site out. https://leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2368&allids=2364_2368&itemno=SCP-LS289S No slugs the second time, but the 1st yes. No issues. Need to hit a range that allows bird shot to see of she can handle those light loads |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 7:20:48 PM EDT
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My cylinder choke should be here by friday. Then test it out for what I want. haven't decided on laser yet.
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Browning A-5 FPNI strikes again..... |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:57:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No slugs the second time, but the 1st yes. No issues. Need to hit a range that allows bird shot to see of she can handle those light loads Sorry for not getting back sooner, not used to going in the shotgun forum, for those that need a IC for Charles Daly N4S this is the one I got: IC choke Charles Daly N4S for 00 buck and slugs |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 3:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having a hard time finding a cylinder choke for the shotgun. IC choke can shoot slugs but prefer to get a cylinder choke. If someone know who some in stock, please post it here. thanks. It's the Beretta/Benelli Mobil choke pattern. Scroll down and there are several options for both extended and flush mount cyl and ic chokes. https://www.choketube.com/choke-tube-product-details-R.php?Franchi-Choke-Tubes-after-1998&mf=3 |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:30:38 PM EDT
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Glad I ordered other mags from another place. Just found out from CD that they are out of stock of the magazine’s I ordered last month. Was pissed.. cancelled my order with them. Others came in so am GTG. Won’t order from CD again.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:25:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s hot What’s your ballpark investment? Quote HistoryI will have to look it up and see, I have slept since then. |
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Posted: 1/30/2021 3:24:18 PM EDT
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I walked into my LGS a few days ago and they had a JTS M12AK-T1 sitting on the shelf for $579. With the ammo shortage and literally pallets of shotgun shells available, I went ahead and took a chance. It seems well made, and has a few review videos on the youtube that are positive. It was also imported under another name I Arms EM12-B . I'm running to the range today to break it in... will report back!
- Clint ETA: TikTok video Link  |
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