Seems like Numrich had the same Gunbroker auction with 20+ orig Bofors and Israeli M2s for over a year, now none on GB, none on Numrich website.

I was going to buy one as well, then they up and disappeared.

They were purchased and are in private hands.

Several of them are on approved Form 1s and can be / are re-activated.

People bought them. $1,000 was a steal, I'm shocked they were on the market as long as they were.

I am being forced to settle for my form 1 RPG2 for now...

I have it on good authority that more of the all-steel M2 Gustavs (de milled) may be headed to the U.S. market in the near future.

These M2 guns really should be re-classified as C&R.

I heard the same, along with the excellent news that they should still be between $1,000-$1,500.

I thought I'd throw one on Mad Max in place of the M3 just as demo.  I'd like the build a 90deg angle firing pin system extender for use with a shortened .50BMG chambered barrel insert.

Can someone provide a link to the importer or who will ahve them available for sale? Love to get in on a gustav or a rpg2

Royal Tiger Imports had a bunch of RPG2s for a while, but apparently they weren't selling well and ended up being dumped at a stupid low price (something like $150 a piece).  Right now, the only one I am finding online quickly is this one from Bob Bowman.  I actually bought my RPG2 from Bob.  He can be a little difficult to get a hold of at times, and his prices aren't the cheapest- but he gets some really unique and cool stuff pretty regularly.

Also, while they don't list them on their site, Macon Armory had a few RPG2s at a gunshow in February.  Might still have one or two.

@JsbsMarine

Thank u, saw the one on gb thats interesting.
So how do we do reactivate these after we form 1? Any recipes for atf approved black powder rockets?

Funny thing- the argument can solidly be made that you don't need a Form 1 for an RPG2 specifically, while for an RPG7 you do for certain.

Why you might ask?  RPG doesn't actually stand for "Rocket Propelled Grenade", and the RPG2 actually does not fire rockets at all.  In fact, the RPG2 is a muzzle loaded, black powder fired device that does not use fixed ammunition.  So there is a strong argument that is currently being pursued, that the RPG2 doesn't qualify as a firearm.  The projectile is propelled by a little tube of black powder that is attached to the rear of the projectile prior to insertion down the barrel.

As far as reactivation goes, pending hammering out whether it technically is even a firearm (I have yet to reactivate mine, but will post the official opinion of ATF when I get it), you would simply have the tube rewelded (make sure it is a pro, and that you get the welds checked), then remove the cross bar that was put in it, make sure the firing pin is cleaned up and good to go...and doneskis!

Mind blown.
Now if we can get a steady source of chalk rounds lol

Working on it

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OST? Join us with your thoughts...

Man, that would be awesome.  
If these pop up again please post so I don't miss the boat again.

Thanks

I was just pontificating on the potential non-DD'ness of the RPG2, and my thoughts really were not.... developed?.  I'd love to see that happen, but I would not expect it.

What have they ruled on Panzerfausts?  There have got to be some of those kicking around, re-pops or original.  I couldn't find anything in my searching.

This is very interesting.  Please do post the tech Branch's opinion when you receive it.

@JsbsMarine fellow on G503.com/forum has an RPG-2 dewat with inert Projo for $275 shipped:
http://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=296980

Anybody heard any word on that new batch of Gustavs that were rumored to be coming in?

My source (the importer) has gone silent, and suddenly become noncommittal when answering emails. They were supposed to be here in March.

Yeah,
I procrastinated when they were available and am now kicking myself. Guess Imma' have to settle for an RPG-7.

In all honesty, I am still relatively confident we will see Carl Gs this summer.  Just have a feeling...

Patiently waiting for a goose to pop up.

Patiently waiting for a goose to pop up.

Bump. Any news?  Somebody found a single M2 on GB last week.

Link to photos of the one on gunbroker?

Wait a minute, it rick rolls to your topic in GD about how to strip Carla

Honestly I didn't buy mine off gun broker.  If it had been on gun broker and I'd seen the condition it was in, I'd probably have passed.

I bought it sight unseen, and found it word of mouth through the DD collectors mafia.

There must be tons more of these out there: (from Wiki)

Countries using (and previously using) the 84mm include:

Argentina[30][31]
Australia:[32] M2 replaced by M3 variant.[33]
Austria[32]
Belgium[34]
Belize[32]
Botswana[32]*

Brazilian jungle warfare soldier carrying a Carl Gustaf M3.
Brazil[32]
Burkina Faso[32]
Canada[32]
Czech Republic[35]
Denmark:[32] M2 called M/79,[36] M3 called M/85.[37] Commonly referred to as "Dysekanon" in the army.
Estonia: M2, M3.[38]
Germany[34]
Ghana[32]
Greece[39]
Honduras[32]
India:[32] a modified version has also been developed by the DRDO which is significantly lighter due to use of advanced composites.[40]
Indonesia: used by the Komando Pasukan Katak (Kopaska) tactical diver group and Komando Pasukan Khusus (Kopassus) special forces group.[41]
Iraq: Iraqi Kurdistan received 40 launchers and 1,000 projectiles in 2014[42]
Ireland: Defence Forces specialist units, including Army Ranger Wing (ARW).[32]
Israel[32]

The Howa 84RR is a Japanese-made version of the Carl Gustaf.
Japan: M2 called 84 mm Recoilless Rifle.,[5] M3 called multi-purpose gun (?????)'
Kenya[32]
Kuwait.[43]
Latvia: M2, M3.
Libya[32]
Lithuania: M2, M3.[44][45]
Malaysia[32]
Myanmar: used by divisional heavy weapon companies in bunker busting/infantry support/light artillery role for counter-insurgency campaigns.[46] Clones made as MA-14.

Nepal[32]
New Zealand[32]
Nigeria[32]
Norway[32]
Poland: used by special forces.[47]
Portugal[48][49]
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone[32]
Slovakia: M3, launch customer for the M4 variant, which became operational in July 2017.[51][52]

Home Guards Used Granatgevär m/48
Sweden[32]
Tamil Eelam: used by the Tamil Tigers during the Final Eelam War.[53]
Thailand[32]
United Arab Emirates[32]
United States: used by USSOCOM, U.S. Army Ranger battalions,[54] and some regular U.S. Army infantry units in the War in Afghanistan.[55][56] In February 2014, the M3 MAAWS was designated as a Program of Record within the U.S. Army and became standard-issue in Army Light Infantry units.[57][58]
Venezuela
Zambia[32]
Former usersEdit
Netherlands: The M2 was in service with the Royal Netherlands Army since 1964, known as the Terugstootloze vuurmond (TLV) 84 mm, Carl Gustaf M-2. It is used in combination with the Kijker, richt, recht, 2x12 Wöhler scope.[59] The same model was also used in the Dutch Marine Corps, where it was known as the Terugstootloze vuurmond (TLV) van 84 mm, Carl Gustav, M2.[60] It was replaced by the Panzerfaust 3.[61]
Singapore: Replaced by MATADOR in 2013.[62]
United Kingdom: M2 variant was used from the 1970s until the early 1990s.[63] AEI Systems Ltd. – a British defence products manufacturer headquartered in Ascot, Berkshire – offers a variant of the platform dubbed the AE84-RCL designed to fire the M540/M550 line of 84×246 mm R ammunition manufactured in Belgium by Mecar.[64]

Anyone got a lead on any US companies which are actually conducting the DEMIL stateside in a FTZ?
I can justify a live Carl G for official use, and I know the price would be lowest if I could snag one from an importer pre-DEMIL when they bring in a batch.

And yes, I can get all the legal paperwork done, but I'll have to cover the cost of the weapon myself, because I'm a member of the awesomest but poorest segment of government.

PM me if you'd rather not share the contact info publically.

Anybody heard anything new on M2 Carl Gs?

Not a peep. I'm keeping my ear to the ground on that, but so far... silence.

I've been using the M3 84mm Carl G since the mid 90s.  Currently I repair and instruct on the M3 and M3A1.  Took this pic last this year here in Afghanistan.
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Firing HEAT in Astan 14'


Here RPG-7 training with the Czechs this year.  First pic is a HEAT round, second is a anti personnel.
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CD

Paying $1000 for an M-2 carbine that could re re-activated to select fire (if I OP and I are referring to the same weapons) would be a steal of a deal.  No wonder they got snapped up.    I would love to have an M-2 regardless of whether the provenance, armory stamps or markings were correct.  Anything with a happy switch for less than $2000 is one hell of a bargain.

You and the OP are discussing completely different weapons. just because someone says M2 doesn't mean carbine, there are numerous weapons designated "M2" (50BMG machinegun, Flamethrower, etc). We obviously said M2 CARL GUSTAV and a simple look will show pictures of anti-tank guns. Also this is the destructive device forum so we would not be talking about a 30 cal machinegun. If you question whether or not you are talking about the same thing and the pics in this thread don't give it away, a simple google search will show what we are talking about. Even with my crappy Iraqi internet it takes less than 20 seconds.w

Thanks for the post CD.

BTW any chance you'll tested the effectiveness of the anti personnel grenade for the RPG?

No, haven't tested it on any targets.  Unlike the Carl G rounds.

CD

Ive seen one firsthand hit the front bumper of a toyota hilux. All it did was put a fist sized hole in the plastic bumper cover. the fragmentation went into the front right wheel well and didn't even pop the tire or mess up any steering or engine components. looked like an old school M-80 firecracker would do more damage. though it is possible it was a defective round as the taliban don't normally have factory fresh ammo in afghanistan

What rounds did you'll test from the Carl G?

Wow, I wonder that too.

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All but the ADM (Buckshot/Flechette) and Thermobaric ASM.  So that's Smoke, Illum, HEAT, HEDP (delay and contact), HE (impact and airburst) plus various training rounds

CD

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All but the ADM (Buckshot/Flechette) and Thermobaric ASM.  So that's Smoke, Illum, HEAT, HEDP (delay and contact), HE (impact and airburst) plus various training rounds

CD

Cool, how was fragmentation from HEDP and HE on the targets?

Deadly

CD

Just a heads up.  Bob Bowman has them posted on gun-broker along with 2 different styles of inert rounds

Yesterday with a M3 and HEAT

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Awesome!!

What are some good sources to find out about such imports while they're still in a FTZ (or wherever) prior to being DEMILed?

Contact Mr.  Bowman's company.  He imports them live and then demils them or has them demilled.  He also has live RPG7s right now for agency sales that haven't been cut

So how does one go about obtaining ammo/ rolling your own? Are components available? Load data? Can the tubes be safely welded? What kind of pressures do these tube hold? I have an M203 and M79 as DD. I'm thinking of something bigger but is this feasible?