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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:54:56 PM EDT
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If it’s not seated all the way and you attempt to lock it down, it will, in fact, not be locked and rocket down range
I’m in love with Keymo but she’s a thicc bitch. I’d like to try Plan B at some point |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:57:19 PM EDT
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Nothing if you use the jelly between your ears while mounting the can.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:57:55 PM EDT
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Because it isn’t fool proof. You need to make sure the locking ring is open when you screw the suppressor on and then make sure you lock the ring. And never hot swap your suppressor on to another host. Take it off while it’s still warm
If you pay attention to the basics the ASR mount works well. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:03:11 PM EDT
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Nothing if you use the jelly between your ears while mounting the can. People bitch about it because it's not idiot proof, and there are a shitload of idiots in the NFA community. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 7:39:26 AM EDT
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I believe Capitol Armory posted on here previously that the only problems they have seen with the ASR were caused by user error.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 8:09:06 AM EDT
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Thanks guys
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:06:15 PM EDT
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A negative company proclaiming everything in the industry to be faulty or sub-par to their own components is probably the biggest problem with ASR. They knowingly misrepresented ASR as having Trifecta locking problems and the ignorant followers repeat the nonsense loudly, and often.
Use is simple: Unlock collar, spin can on firearm by gripping the can - not the lock collar, lock the collar. If you do that you will likely never have a problem with ASR. ASR even has a "magical" taper in front of the threads, which keeps them and the locking mechanism clean! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:21:51 PM EDT
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ASR even has a "magical" taper in front of the threads, which keeps them and the locking mechanism clean! 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All lies!!! The taper was just invented and has never been used before recently when it was invented by a suppressor company! I know this because I read it on social media! 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 4:31:44 AM EDT
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Shoot it, OP.
If there is anything about it that would present a problem, then you will find out. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:37:22 AM EDT
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There's a lot of good posts on here. There's nothing WRONG with ASR.
The vast majority of issues with the ASR system is caused from user error. Unfortunately, some people can't own up to making a mistake and instead make up some crazy story of what happened and how magic fairies flew down and cast evil spells on their mount. The two big ones are not turning the lock ring (or turning it the wrong way to 'unlock' it), and somehow managing to cross thread the can on. Neither are mistakes you can make while paying attention, both are pretty much just people not paying attention to what they're doing. Think of it like this... is it the guns fault if someone mixes up 300 Blackout and 5.56? Or .243 and 6.5 Creedmoor? |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:19:59 PM EDT
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There's a lot of good posts on here. There's nothing WRONG with ASR. The vast majority of issues with the ASR system is caused from user error. Unfortunately, some people can't own up to making a mistake and instead make up some crazy story of what happened and how magic fairies flew down and cast evil spells on their mount. The two big ones are not turning the lock ring (or turning it the wrong way to 'unlock' it), and somehow managing to cross thread the can on. Neither are mistakes you can make while paying attention, both are pretty much just people not paying attention to what they're doing. Think of it like this... is it the guns fault if someone mixes up 300 Blackout and 5.56? Or .243 and 6.5 Creedmoor? Thanks again for the posts. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 4:22:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
There's a lot of good posts on here. There's nothing WRONG with ASR. The vast majority of issues with the ASR system is caused from user error. Unfortunately, some people can't own up to making a mistake and instead make up some crazy story of what happened and how magic fairies flew down and cast evil spells on their mount. The two big ones are not turning the lock ring (or turning it the wrong way to 'unlock' it), and somehow managing to cross thread the can on. Neither are mistakes you can make while paying attention, both are pretty much just people not paying attention to what they're doing. Think of it like this... is it the guns fault if someone mixes up 300 Blackout and 5.56? Or .243 and 6.5 Creedmoor? |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 11:36:52 PM EDT
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If it’s not seated all the way and you attempt to lock it down, it will, in fact, not be locked and rocket down range I’m in love with Keymo but she’s a thicc bitch. I’d like to try Plan B at some point I’m super pleased with my ASR stuff. Easy, repeatable, and accurate. Not sure what the hubbub is about either. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 12:11:57 AM EDT
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I have 3 ASR mounts. No issues here.
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Posted: 11/26/2018 12:13:12 AM EDT
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I started having problems with mine where the little toothed nub in the ASR module that presses down on the ribbed portion of the ASR muzzle device (after the locking ring is engaged) would lose tension and allow the can to start backing off after firing.
SiCo offered to replace the module for free, but advised the issue could most likely be fixed by slightly bending that “nub” piece in the ASR module. That worked for a while but would lose tension again. I already had Keymo on my Saker, so said fuck it and went that direction with the Hybrid as well. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 1:55:39 AM EDT
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I have multiple ASR mounts and cans and they all lock just fine. If you have the attention span of a third grader it should not be difficult to figure out when it's locked down properly. Hint - if the ring doesn't turn all the way from one stop to the other, it's not locked
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Posted: 11/26/2018 7:18:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. You are confusing the ASR with the Saker Trifecta mount. The Trifecta mount did have issues, and SiCo has been replacing Saker Trifecta mounts with the ASR for free. I’m super pleased with my ASR stuff. Easy, repeatable, and accurate. Not sure what the hubbub is about either. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 7:21:56 AM EDT
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There’s nothing incorrect about my statement. If it’s not seated properly, ASR based cans can go flying |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 7:23:44 AM EDT
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Which is true for any suppressor by any manufacturer. User error can defeat the best designs. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 8:44:15 AM EDT
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How do you “user error” a YHM Mount or a Griffin? |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 10:43:10 AM EDT
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There’s nothing incorrect about my statement. If it’s not seated properly, ASR based cans can go flying |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:43:55 AM EDT
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I just picked up my Omega last week and it is my first can. The included brake was properly torqued, rockset, and timed onto my host. My ASR mount was installed into the Omega according to the included instructions. When I went to put the Omega onto my host, I screwed it onto the brake until it stopped and was tight but not gorilla tight and the locking collar on the mount would not fully engage. I had to back the can off a little for the locking collar to fully lock. Is this normal? I know it may seem like a dumb question but this is my first can and I am inexperienced with suppressors in general.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:51:33 AM EDT
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Because it isn’t fool proof. You need to make sure the locking ring is open when you screw the suppressor on and then make sure you lock the ring. And never hot swap your suppressor on to another host. Take it off while it’s still warm If you pay attention to the basics the ASR mount works well.
ETA: Having that said, I like my can and haven't had any issues with the ASR design. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 2:23:39 AM EDT
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How do you “user error” a YHM Mount or a Griffin?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:17:01 AM EDT
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I just picked up my Omega last week and it is my first can. The included brake was properly torqued, rockset, and timed onto my host. My ASR mount was installed into the Omega according to the included instructions. When I went to put the Omega onto my host, I screwed it onto the brake until it stopped and was tight but not gorilla tight and the locking collar on the mount would not fully engage. I had to back the can off a little for the locking collar to fully lock. Is this normal? I know it may seem like a dumb question but this is my first can and I am inexperienced with suppressors in general. Sometimes mounts settle in and after that you won't have to back off a half tooth to lock the ring. You can try lightly oiling the taper in front of the course threads on the muzzle device. It's a good idea to keep that and the mating surface inside the ASR mount inspected for carbon build up and lightly lube and wipe. Excess lube will just burn. Some people use copper or nickel filled anti seize very sparingly as it's messy. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:27:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have thought the Sig mounts wouldn't be subject to user error but the current Sig mount thread has proved me wrong 
This has been good for some Form 1 builders as cheap ASR mounts show up in the EE. It's good that people afraid of user error have other choices to trade to. Usually the problem with taper-only mounds is over-torquing them when new to the design. A strap wrench is one of those tools that once you carry it, you usually never need it a second time. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:37:11 AM EDT
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Q is the new trendy hotness, so nobody gives them any shit.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:20:03 PM EDT
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The only problem I have ever had is my fault. I have a tendency to try and move it to another host while still hot and it getting stuck on that host. Completely my fault I need another can.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:31:24 PM EDT
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I started having problems with mine where the little toothed nub in the ASR module that presses down on the ribbed portion of the ASR muzzle device (after the locking ring is engaged) would lose tension and allow the can to start backing off... |
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Posted: 11/30/2018 1:02:32 PM EDT
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I just picked up my Omega last week and it is my first can. The included brake was properly torqued, rockset, and timed onto my host. My ASR mount was installed into the Omega according to the included instructions. When I went to put the Omega onto my host, I screwed it onto the brake until it stopped and was tight but not gorilla tight and the locking collar on the mount would not fully engage. I had to back the can off a little for the locking collar to fully lock. Is this normal? I know it may seem like a dumb question but this is my first can and I am inexperienced with suppressors in general. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 10:47:15 PM EDT
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I finally picked up an ASR mount today. Had the same problem as everyone else getting it to fully lock. What I did was put a few drops of CLP on the areas that moved. With the ASR mount attached to my hybrid and not mounted I worked the lock back and forth while adding a drop of CLP every now and again. Along with mounting on a rifle to see if it would fully lock. When it'll fully lock on the mount work it back and forth mounted. It will get easier the more it is worked. Wearing a pair of gloves may help when working it while it's mounted.
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Posted: 12/29/2018 2:10:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I finally picked up an ASR mount today. Had the same problem as everyone else getting it to fully lock. What I did was put a few drops of CLP on the areas that moved. With the ASR mount attached to my hybrid and not mounted I worked the lock back and forth while adding a drop of CLP every now and again. Along with mounting on a rifle to see if it would fully lock. When it'll fully lock on the mount work it back and forth mounted. It will get easier the more it is worked. Wearing a pair of gloves may help when working it while it's mounted.
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