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Posted: 1/12/2018 5:14:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 5:53:25 PM EDT
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Are they working on a version of this for I2 weapon scopes?
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 5:56:00 PM EDT
[#2]
What’s the price?
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 5:56:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2018 5:58:48 PM EDT
[#4]
That's pretty cool, can it be helmet or weapon mounted?
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:00:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:03:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:16:24 PM EDT
[#7]
What color are our lightsabers through this tech?

ETA from website: “ IR lasers and illuminators show up clear as day.  They have a white-ish hue under the CVA-14.“
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:44:58 PM EDT
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Can't advertise pricing in an open forum, but please check our website
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Can't advertise pricing in an open forum, but please check our website
The post a fucking link
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:46:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2018 6:52:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2018 7:07:49 PM EDT
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Bro, we're not allowed to post links back to our site in a general forum.  That amounts to "advertising" per the site sponsorship rules, and we can get in trouble with the site staff.  We can do that in our Industry Forum but not the general night vision forum.  I realize it is a major chore to go to our website and click on the giant banner for this product that pops up first thing on the homepage, linking you directly to the product where you can read all the information, but life is imperfect.  I sincerely apologize for those five seconds of your life we and the arfcom staff will have stolen from you.
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Obviously too hard to post a link to your own sub forum!

But thanks Vic for getting me in the right direction!
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 8:33:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Very cool idea. questions, so it is a spinning wheel setup. How loud and how long do batteries last and since it is eyeball-brain can you hook up a camera or video and see the color?

How is that for run-on questions? ??

Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 9:03:57 PM EDT
[#13]
Ummm,...I’m guessing their not for dual bridge set ups?
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 9:19:28 PM EDT
[#14]
So the rotating color filter scheme is progressing...

I like the posted images and think more info to the eye and brain could be QUITE useful...

The tech applied to intensified surveillance cameras would be interesting, and have a greater market, I think.
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 9:57:15 PM EDT
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This just shows where the industry is headed and I love what I see! Just think in years to come we'll have access to full color nods with no added bulk like this setup. Regardless, its amazing and I can't wait to see what's next!
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 10:04:43 PM EDT
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Very nifty! Can't help but be pleasantly amused how the concept dates back to the era of mechanical and early color television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRSoxOFuvY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDzmPBzbgwE

http://www.earlytelevision.org/cbs_color_converter.html
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 10:09:18 PM EDT
[#17]
Dare I say this, but their website could use a real pic for the comparison instead of a photoshopped one. Not taking away that this is cool tech, and I get it's easier to compare when it's pixel to pixel the same, except for the shirt and some other parts in the center, but hey, not cool.
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 10:09:23 PM EDT
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Other than holding it in your hand, how do folks use it? Weapon Mount? Camera mount?
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 10:26:20 PM EDT
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Other than holding it in your hand, how do folks use it? Weapon Mount? Camera mount?
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I played with one about 6 months ago. You don’t, its too big and weighs too much. But I bet a couple new generations of this later it should be useable.
Link Posted: 1/12/2018 11:40:41 PM EDT
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Obviously too hard to post a link to your own sub forum!

But thanks Vic for getting me in the right direction!
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Someone get the magenta crayons and craft paper out

Teee ennn veee seee dot com
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 12:12:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/13/2018 12:19:38 AM EDT
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What’s the price?
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$2650
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 12:31:08 AM EDT
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I want but need to try first.  Someone in Ohio please buy one and invite me over :)
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 12:52:36 AM EDT
[#24]
Very neat!

What does an IR laser look like with this thing?
White?

How much noise does it make?
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 12:58:15 AM EDT
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ouch, I would like it to be $265.00.

With nv tech these companies all want military contracts, so everything is super expensive.
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 1:14:38 AM EDT
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How durable is it?  I’m guessing it can take a knock or two?
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 1:15:12 AM EDT
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ouch, I would like it to be $265.00.

With nv tech these companies all want military contracts, so everything is super expensive.
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For $265 I’d have two right now.
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 2:18:10 AM EDT
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Nothing has been photoshopped.  All legit pics.  The only "photoshop" was where I overlaid the color and green images and then cut them in half.  But hey, keep throwing wildly baseless accusations out there.  It's a bold move.  Let's see how it plays out, Cotton.
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The one where you can slide to "switch" views too? You can see the shirt is cut and pasted in as the shadow cast from his left hand is cut. The real photo seems to be in their video and in your website, but that interactive huge pic has been doctored.

Edit: to be clear, not accusing you TNVC of doctoring anything, but as said in the previous post, that TAC seems to use one. Would seem the green pic is mostly converted back from the color image and a part taken from an actual through a green tube picture. Makes it look a worse than it should.

Originals:
http://colortacnightvision.com/wp-content/uploads/before-after-02-before.jpg
http://colortacnightvision.com/wp-content/uploads/before-after-02-after.jpg
Original green (02-before.jpg) brightness adjusted to match color image: https://i.imgur.com/xC7yMQu.jpg
Original color (02-after.jpg) converted to green: https://i.imgur.com/FeOsVgD.jpg

Difference between them when the TAC photo is converted to green:
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 2:59:53 AM EDT
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Dare I say this, but their website could use a real pic for the comparison instead of a photoshopped one. Not taking away that this is cool tech, and I get it's easier to compare when it's pixel to pixel the same, except for the shirt and some other parts in the center, but hey, not cool.
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Good catch. Comparing the noise and hot pixels in both images, it's obvious both are from the same photo. Rather lame and quite misleading.
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 8:59:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/13/2018 9:54:39 AM EDT
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I can't speak to their slider presentation, but I assure you that the image we are showing is from two separate images from two separate sources.  It took some time to rotate and stretch things so they would look lined up in our face book and IG hybrid pic
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Pics on your website look fine to me, it was that big in your face pic at ColorTAC's website that jumped at me. No prob lining up two images like you described, the original detail & quality is preserved unlike when one converts a color image to green.
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 10:46:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Well, then I will offer $500. At that price the company might sell 10 of these instead of zero. The listed price is outrageous except to a government contract where dollar divided by performance matters less.
Link Posted: 1/13/2018 11:17:40 PM EDT
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I can't wait until ATN makes their own and just uses regular daylight pictures for marketing and doesn't even have to tint them green
Link Posted: 1/14/2018 6:27:42 AM EDT
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I think this was asked in some older thread when it was in a proto stage, but how much of performance do you lose with this, is it significant or is it still fully useable in starlight conditions?

It would seem that it does sacrifice a bit, but looks quite okay to me (first pic is baffling, is the top part clouds or terrain beyond the lake/river?):


While reading their patents I bumped into one from Intevac that describes a process that doesn't need moving color filter wheels, but has surfaces on the photocathode and the output screen which can vary their spectral response at command and quickly. That'd be something!
Link Posted: 1/14/2018 10:54:38 AM EDT
[#35]
What do IR lasers look like through this?
Link Posted: 1/14/2018 11:33:01 AM EDT
[#36]
Looking forward to version X where it’s a much smaller footprint for helmet mounting
Link Posted: 1/14/2018 3:31:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/15/2018 1:05:48 PM EDT
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I trust TNVC unquestionably.  Some other company gets more scrutiny.  And it does appear they just photochopped an image.

Peanut butter and GIFs for comparison:



Link Posted: 1/16/2018 1:09:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2018 3:38:11 PM EDT
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Who the fuck cares?  I don't understand all this sharp-shooting of TNVC just trying to make an industry announcement.  All pictures are but representations of real images anyway.  You would really need to look through it to have a any legitimate opinion.  I for one don't really give a flying fuck what they did to produce an image to illustrate this new product.  If I was interested, I would find one to look through.

I don't get all the negative feedback.  WTF?
Link Posted: 1/16/2018 4:12:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2018 5:17:28 PM EDT
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Quoted:there are folks on this site that would bitch about free pussy for lack of a better analogy.

Nothing and I mean nothing will ever been as good as the real life human eye
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Thanks for being a straight shooter Sam. I couldn’t agree more...on both counts.

I appreciate the info on the images too.
Link Posted: 1/17/2018 12:23:38 PM EDT
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Can a magnifier attach to it?

If an IR laser looks red, does an IR flashlight also look red?
Link Posted: 1/17/2018 1:26:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2018 2:21:01 PM EDT
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Does that vary between 850 and 940nm?
Link Posted: 1/18/2018 7:10:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/18/2018 2:10:36 PM EDT
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Am I the only person that likes the green better?  I mean the color option is cool and certainly has its places to help out our boys and girls in uniform - very neat tech., but for me I like the green glow.  Just my 2 cents.

Edit - yeah I also strangely prefer the green over WP - so it is definitely me being weird (probably).
Link Posted: 1/18/2018 2:36:51 PM EDT
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No, actually, based on the PHOTOS I see, I still prefer the contrast of green phosphor.

When I get to see some WP, we'll see.

The pros dig it, so there is that.

But back to the OP, I can see where Positive Target ID would be easier with color, if you're trying to describe one asshole/vehicle/building from another.
Link Posted: 1/18/2018 5:18:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2018 2:46:07 PM EDT
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