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Posted: 8/20/2021 11:02:49 PM EDT
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My lever gun, a Marlin 336C in .30-30 cal, is a working weapon used in the pursuit of MI whitetail. I will most likely see game between 65 - 100 yds. That being the case I zero for 100 yds which will put meat in the freezer out to 150 yds with no Kentucky windage or parallax comp.
IMHO, zeroing distance is mostly a function of intended usage and caliber ballistics for chosen load. Choose well, Grasshopper…… |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 12:51:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/21/2021 1:09:43 AM EDT
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50. But I know my expected drop to 100. I traded my optic (giant freaking SRS02), so I need to replace it.
I’m currently leaning towards a DeltaPoint Pro. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 1:22:50 AM EDT
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Well, if they're 15 feet away from my front door, what do I zero my M336-A at?
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Posted: 8/21/2021 9:01:06 AM EDT
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I only have two lever guns. A 44 mag and a 357 mag marlin 1894's. They are both set for 50 yards.
If I had a rifle caliber lever gun (30-30, 45-70, etc..) it would be zeroed at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 9:22:34 AM EDT
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Mine is set to hit about 2 inches high at 50 yards. That makes it about 125 yard zero.
Edited to add: When I say yards what I mean is paces. I’ve never actually measured it out. I’m 6’4” so my pace may be a bit longer than 36”. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is set to hit about 2 inches high at 50 yards. That makes it about 125 yard zero. Pretty much this with a remlin 30/30. I'm not getting 300 yard shots in the woods where I hunt. I might have shot 50 combined at the two I killed last year. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 12:46:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: What distance should I zero my .44 Henry X at? 25 yards? All I have is 180 grain Remingtons now, though I'll be reloading for it. Based off of a muzzle velocity of ~2025fps from the same rifle with the same ammo from here: https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/357-magnum-vs-44-magnum-lever-actions/ And a 2" sight height A 36y zero will be pretty much dead on at 100y.  Generic settings of 29.92 pressure 80 deg F 20% humidity 10mph wind from 90 deg What distance do you folks zero your lever gun at? 36y zero as well so I'm +/- 2" out to just over 200y with a 336 .30-30 |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 1:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is set to hit about 2 inches high at 50 yards. That makes it about 125 yard zero. Edited to add: When I say yards what I mean is paces. I’ve never actually measured it out. I’m 6’4” so my pace may be a bit longer than 36”. That is about what I would recommend,.....getting a good point blank zero where your bullet never gets too far above the line of sight to force a hold under but be logical for the effective range of the firearm and ammo combination. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 1:35:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Winchester M94 .44 Magnum and .357 Magnum... 50 yards. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/70257/Win_M94AE_TD__44_mag-5_JPG-2060293.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/70257/Win_M94AE_TD__44_mag_JPG-2060296.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/70257/winchester_1894__357_885-2_JPG-2060298.JPG Who did the takedown conversion? I do 50yds. 357mag. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 5:22:56 PM EDT
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What caliber will you be using?
You need to zero in the old "black powder" rifle cartridge repeaters, modern pistol cartridges and even the 30-30 at the distance you will be shooting at the most. These cartridges have a bit more trajectory than "modern" cartridges like the 30-06, 243, 270 of which the POA at 50 yards is basically the same at 200 yards. It is ideal to zero the scope in at the greatest distance you plan to shoot since the target will be it's "smallest" and harder to hit with having to add windage and elevation corrections. Here is what my target board looks like for the 44-40 with the range POA's added from 25 yards to 265 yards. 265 yard POA would be 9 3/4", just above the target board. "Flip" the POA for each range and that gives you the bullet's trajectory. Notice the "apex" is 100 yards, "bullet drop" starts past 200 yards with this particular zeroed in range.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 8:02:24 PM EDT
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Let's see the 1895 .45/70 with 325gr is zeroed at 125 yards if I switch to 300gr Hp load the zero is 100 yards if I switch to my 405gr HC lead the zero is a tad high at 50 yards and about the same low at 75 yards. with the 405 gr 2" low at 100 yards. I mostly hunt White tails with the 300 gr load.
Now my .356 Win is dead on at 150 yards and 2" low at 200 yards. My .30/30 is still zeroed at 100 yards with the 160 gr lever evolution. My savage 99 .300 Savage with peep sights is dead nuts at 200 yards 3 1/2" high at 100 and about the same low at 250 yards. I need to load some of the 160gr lever evolutions up for it one of these days. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 11:01:15 PM EDT
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Rossi 1892 in .45 LC. I zero at 50 yards, butt know the drop at 75 and 100 yards. Deer hunting here is up close and personal. Most of my deer are taken at less than 50 yards.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 8:03:22 PM EDT
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I zero at 100 yards.
...but it's a Browning BLR in 6.5 Creedmoor. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 3:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What caliber will you be using? You need to zero in the old "black powder" rifle cartridge repeaters, modern pistol cartridges and even the 30-30 at the distance you will be shooting at the most. These cartridges have a bit more trajectory than "modern" cartridges like the 30-06, 243, 270 of which the POA at 50 yards is basically the same at 200 yards. It is ideal to zero the scope in at the greatest distance you plan to shoot since the target will be it's "smallest" and harder to hit with having to add windage and elevation corrections. Here is what my target board looks like for the 44-40 with the range POA's added from 25 yards to 265 yards. 265 yard POA would be 9 3/4", just above the target board. "Flip" the POA for each range and that gives you the bullet's trajectory. Notice the "apex" is 100 yards, "bullet drop" starts past 200 yards with this particular zeroed in range. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/489681/237707293_1868755469971694_9011147105394-2061033.JPG That's a neat rifle and I found your site interesting. My 18" .44 mag carbine is zero'd at 100 yrds. for my uses. |
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Posted: 8/26/2021 4:04:03 AM EDT
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Thanks Jt
Just messing around the range yesterday, 50yd and 25yd groups  Attached File50 yard, 8 shot group  Attached File25 yard, 10 shout group  Attached File265 yard, 6 shot group (12 degree impact angle)  Attached FileVideos (yesterday's videos added) Videos Video 1 Video 2 |
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Posted: 8/26/2021 6:28:30 PM EDT
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Thanks all! The DNR range I shoot at is 7 yards handgun, 25 yards handgun and rimfire, 50, 100 and 200. I think I'll do 50.
I wonder what my ammo will do at 2000fps.  iirc Chris didn't do a ballistics gel.
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Posted: 8/26/2021 7:54:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks all! The DNR range I shoot at is 7 yards handgun, 25 yards handgun and rimfire, 50, 100 and 200. I think I'll do 50. I wonder what my ammo will do at 2000fps. iirc Chris didn't do a ballistics gel.2nd hand info... It will behave quite a bit like the WWB 240, act like a hard cast non expanding bullet out of a revolver and open up quite a bit out of a carbine but still penetrate fairly well. Based on info from a guy who uses that load on midwest whitetail. Exits deer on broadside shots. That load is moving right along out of a carbine. |
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Posted: 8/28/2021 12:17:17 PM EDT
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My 2 Marlin .357's : 50 yards.
Winchester '94 30-30: 100 yards. All my .22 lever actions: 50 yards |
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Posted: 8/28/2021 2:53:53 PM EDT
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It depends on the caliber. I'll zero my pistol calibers at 25 yards, 30-30 at 75 and my 308 at 100
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