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Originally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. View Quote That looks good... And I like basketweave |
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Originally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn't make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I'm going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. View Quote Looks great, what adhesive did you use? |
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Originally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. View Quote That looks fantastic! Did you use adhesive backed fabric... or....??? Details!! |
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It’s just 3m Super 77 and 1000d cordura. Super 77 was really easy to work with.
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Originally Posted By jonathon: Ugly ass basketweave holster to wrapped in Woodland. First wrap job not too bad. The 6360 has a lot of complicated curves. We will see how it holds up, few places where I just couldn’t make it stick due to the stiffness of 1000d cordura and the shape of the holster. Edges are solidly bonded. https://i.imgur.com/gScawLQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cwBG7jp.jpg I’m going to try and find a ratty 6280 for a Glock to try next. View Quote Looks great! |
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I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland.
If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. |
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland. If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. View Quote Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it: (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. |
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Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan: Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it: https://volundgearworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_9856.png (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: I'm at a loss trying to figure out Safariland. If I buy a MOLLE holster that I want to use on a PALS belt, do I have to get a paddle or standard belt mount holster, then buy adapters. If so, what adapters? Either their website stinks, or my skills and patience stink. Same difference. It'll kinda depend on the belt. Most people use the normal UBL hanger and just run the belt through it: https://volundgearworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_9856.png (not my pic) If your belt allows for that, it's what I'd go with. If not, or if you prefer to attach it to the webbing directly, then what you'd want is the 6004-15 Molle Locking System and either screw your holster directly to it or use the QLS System (personally recommended, it's handy even if you're not changing platforms). And yeah, their website sucks. Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 |
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 View Quote Appears so. I've never seen that used though and it looks significantly more floppy, which is the opposite of what you want with a holster. |
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 View Quote What benefit would there be to use that? |
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Does Safariland charge you at the time of order or when they ship?
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I'm for real done with my belt this time. Seriously... well... except for maybe a thigh strap if the holster starts floppin' around while I'm LARPing to a Costa Magpul video.
I got to run run the belt, PC and helmet two nights ago for a night shoot. Everything was buttoned down, exactly where I wanted it and nothing from the plate carrier interfered with the belt (and vise versa). I will note that wearing your gear around the house pays off huge when running around the woods in the dark. Mag changes were second nature. Empty mags to dump pouch? No problem. My re-holstering could still use some work though. Changes since last pic dump... Added a Blue Force Gear "The Hammock" under the Micro Trauma Kit NOW! Attached File Build spreadsheet for anyone interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DjZyuFgbRO2rmq-r6mF7RmgX8OWwTQQ47Kk-aaX2do/edit?usp=sharing What do I do now? I've already got OCD'd Bug Out and Get Home bags. Can someone point me to a good chest rig thread? |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: What benefit would there be to use that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Will one of their holsters bolt directly to this plate? https://safariland.com/products/model-6004-8-small-molle-adapter-plate-23112 What benefit would there be to use that? Standard MOLLE attachment, and less plastic with no prongs to break. |
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"Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian." Thomas Jefferson
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Standard MOLLE attachment, and less plastic with no prongs to break. View Quote Yeah... None of those are real advantages. The Safariland plastic is bombproof, as are their prongs. You're not going to break a Safariland attachment system. That MOLLE is more likely to sag on a belt system (resulting in a sloppy and fouled draw) and your more likely to tear the stitching of MOLLE webbing than break a QLS fork or a Safariland mount. Safarilands, with their plastic mounts, are used by guys who climb ships, rope out of helicopters, jump out of planes, etc... Without issue. |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Yeah... None of those are real advantages. The Safariland plastic is bombproof, as are their prongs. You're not going to break a Safariland attachment system. That MOLLE is more likely to sag on a belt system (resulting in a sloppy and fouled draw) and your more likely to tear the stitching of MOLLE webbing than break a QLS fork or a Safariland mount. Safarilands, with their plastic mounts, are used by guys who climb ships, rope out of helicopters, jump out of planes, etc... Without issue. View Quote I mean, you could break a safariland.....if you subject it to well north of the 140lbs they're designed to break away at for user safety. Seriously, if any of you have actually managed to break a Safariland short of intentional destructive testing I'd love to know how. |
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Does the holster bolt directly to the pronged piece?
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"Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian." Thomas Jefferson
"It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains." Patrick Henry |
"I have guns to prevent tyrannical genocide. Anyone who tells me to just stop having guns is telling me they favor genocide. It really is that simple. You'll have to forgive me if I won't be quiet about it." - memphisliving
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Originally Posted By PFran42: I'm for real done with my belt this time. Seriously... well... except for maybe a thigh strap if the holster starts floppin' around while I'm LARPing to a Costa Magpul video. I got to run run the belt, PC and helmet two nights ago for a night shoot. Everything was buttoned down, exactly where I wanted it and nothing from the plate carrier interfered with the belt (and vise versa). I will note that wearing your gear around the house pays off huge when running around the woods in the dark. Mag changes were second nature. Empty mags to dump pouch? No problem. My re-holstering could still use some work though. Changes since last pic dump... Added a Blue Force Gear "The Hammock" under the Micro Trauma Kit NOW! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210125_214541331_jpg-1797006.JPG Build spreadsheet for anyone interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10DjZyuFgbRO2rmq-r6mF7RmgX8OWwTQQ47Kk-aaX2do/edit?usp=sharing What do I do now? I've already got OCD'd Bug Out and Get Home bags. Can someone point me to a good chest rig thread? View Quote Where did you get the BFG dump pouch and Hammock from? I haven’t seen those in stock anywhere. Emailed BFG earlier this month and they said they were expecting a restock mid-January but nothing yet. |
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Originally Posted By sconnieVLP: Where did you get the BFG dump pouch and Hammock from? I haven’t seen those in stock anywhere. Emailed BFG earlier this month and they said they were expecting a restock mid-January but nothing yet. View Quote @sconnieVLP Dump pouch - EE The Hammock - LegitKit on eBay. I have purchased multiple items from that seller (has 50K+ positive feedback) and they are GTG. LegitKit eBay store: https://www.ebay.com/str/legitkit Link to BFG "The Hammock": https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Blue-Force-Gear-The-Hammock-Tourniquet-TQ-Add-On-Hanger-Pouch/303139942613?var=602075534138&hash=item46948c70d5:g:2JAAAOSw2pFe2vsL |
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USAPatriotTactical is expecting some BFG Ultralight dump pouches in Multicam in a few days. https://www.uspatriottactical.com/blue-force-gear-ten-speed-ultralight-dump-pouch/blue_HW-M-DP-S.html Attached File |
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"Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian." Thomas Jefferson
"It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains." Patrick Henry |
Originally Posted By PFran42: @sconnieVLP USAPatriotTactical is expecting some BFG Ultralight dump pouches in Multicam in a few days. https://www.uspatriottactical.com/blue-force-gear-ten-speed-ultralight-dump-pouch/blue_HW-M-DP-S.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/WPC-Q-000000_1_56_51_PM_png-1797767.JPG View Quote Perfect, thanks! I normally avoid those guys for anything I suspect may not be in stock, I’m pleased to see they’ve started being more transparent about it. Set a reminder to check on Monday. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: Do you have different sized baseplates for your mags? Mind the gap. If not, you should be fine with a regular. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Very Nice. While we are on topic, do I want gapped or non gapped esstacs for a molle belt? Do you have different sized baseplates for your mags? Mind the gap. If not, you should be fine with a regular. Even though I have too with M&P mags, I’d want the gap there regardless to make the draw easier. |
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Had a couple of knowledgeable folks tell me. Even esstac commented on an IG post advising it wasn’t recommended. I honestly thought I was all set. Now here I am:
Attached File If it hasn’t already been explicitly stated, WTF straps should be avoided as an attachment method on micro molle/pals belts. I now have some malice clips en route. |
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Why should WTF straps be avoided for belts?
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Originally Posted By 556hunter: Why should WTF straps be avoided for belts? View Quote They're too floppy to be used when partially unsupported. Most belts have that half-MOLLE webbing which leaves some of the connector not supported by webbing on both sides, see the picture above. WTF straps will bend and allow the pouch to flop around a bit. For belt use I highly recommend MALICE clips instead as they are a lot stiffer. The original MALICE clips even more so than the fight light ones. When WTF straps are fully supported by webbing on both sides, such as on plate carriers or chest rigs, they work great. |
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Originally Posted By flpickupman: Had a couple of knowledgeable folks tell me. Even esstac commented on an IG post advising it wasn’t recommended. I honestly thought I was all set. Now here I am: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122245/C37D7A15-2008-47AA-B027-FF79BBFA9E21_jpe-1798266.JPG If it hasn’t already been explicitly stated, WTF straps should be avoided as an attachment method on micro molle/pals belts. I now have some malice clips en route. View Quote I had mine set up that way for about two days. Shot one match with the WTF straps and the pouches started wiggling loose. I swapped them out for OneWrap and it’s rock solid. |
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One Wrap is the answer on belts. Malice clips dig in after a while, not a pleasant feeling.
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Originally Posted By northcoastwizard: https://i.imgur.com/ZVTeZq5.jpg View Quote What did I do wrong? Lol |
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Safariland 6354DO (Glock 34/35) RH, Multicam, Red Dot, X300U A/B or TLR-1 just popped up on EE for $100.
This will fit all of the other double stack Glocks as well (not my listing) BETTER HURRY!!!! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71: Put this together for range, HD, & SHTF type use. Yes, that’s a lot of MOLLE I’m fat and working on it...hopefully I’ll be buying a smaller belt later this year. Still need: - Medical for the first aid kit - Flashlight for the HSGI Duty Taco - Multitool - Dump pouch - Carabiner & gloves https://i.imgur.com/4dZtnK5.jpg View Quote Essee? What size? I’m struggling to figure out a way to mount my essee 4 on my belt without poking me in the side with the handle or in the stomach when I lean forward |
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Originally Posted By LFC2112: Essee? What size? I’m struggling to figure out a way to mount my essee 4 on my belt without poking me in the side with the handle or in the stomach when I lean forward View Quote Esee-3. Seems good right behind the holster but I just got everything together and haven’t trained in it yet. |
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Anyone have a good video for using One Wrap on belts? Or should I just order some and figure it out?
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Originally Posted By GTRider245: Anyone have a good video for using One Wrap on belts? Or should I just order some and figure it out? View Quote There is nothing to figure out. 1" wide > run though PALS loops on pouch > wrap around on outer belt. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg View Quote Interesting layout |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: There is nothing to figure out. 1" wide > run though PALS loops on pouch > wrap around on outer belt. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20210107_024855455__1__jpg-1804533.JPG View Quote @PFran42, maybe you already know this, but ITW does make two versions of the FastMag. You're running the molle version, which seems to work fine, but just know that the belt version has a rectangular piece that aids in interfacing with belts of various sizes. My guess is you could track down this piece through ITW directly. |
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Originally Posted By LFC2112: Interesting layout View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LFC2112: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg Interesting layout It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. |
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Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Originally Posted By LFC2112: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That's where my 3 goes and I don't even know it's there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/1030771_2-1798127.jpg Interesting layout It looks like the knife and pistol handles would interfere with each other when the belt is laying flat, but they separate when wearing. I need to lose a pistol mag as 31rds of 10mm is plenty for a back up. The rearmost rifle mag might move over to the right side. Not completely sold on knife location, but it's the best compromise I've found so far. Rifle mags, TQ (with either hand), and pistol ease of access are my priorities in that order. Everything else has to be a compromise. Forget the knife and pistol interference, what about the mag placement in front of the pistol |
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