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Posted: 1/8/2018 7:15:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Where did you hear this from? I really like PWS for sure. Must have not been a good seller for them, the PWS Summit model. I think VQ, will do them justice if they do take the Summit line over. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: 1/8/2018 8:19:45 PM EDT
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Hope they can make it pay for them.
Having owned a summit the biggest gripes were 1. Cycling ammo slow or by kids (action liked to be ran fast and hard) 
2. Aftermarket barrel compatibility , some were picky even with shims on aftermarket or OEM barrels (non-pws) I ended up buying a PWS barrel to solve my issues. 3. Price - especially now with the RPR coming out this better be dialed in am supper accurate imho or it will flop again. Question - how is VQ customer service? |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 11:16:01 PM EDT
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I got that email today also. I always wanted one, but by th etime I was ready to pull the trigger PWS stopped making them. According to the email thee full rifles will start at $1150 MSRP.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 3:26:52 AM EDT
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I got that email today also. I always wanted one, but by th etime I was ready to pull the trigger PWS stopped making them. According to the email thee full rifles will start at $1150 MSRP. 1150.00 is right in Annie realm and knocking on the barreled action voodoo (spelling?) arms. I know VQ makes some accurate stuff but at that price I think it will flop again. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 4:29:51 AM EDT
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You got those numbers right. $600.00 for a barreled action. If VQ was not so greedy these would sale really good, IMHO. I think that this will be a flop for sure. People today, are more aware of what they can build stuff for. Thanks to the net, and watching videos. If they sold for $750 to $800. I could see that. VQ... don't be so greedy, and you would sale way more of your products. VQ... you have great stuff, but you guys are out of your minds on your prices. Just my .2 cents.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 5:41:32 AM EDT
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You got those numbers right. $600.00 for a barreled action. If VQ was not so greedy these would sale really good, IMHO. I think that this will be a flop for sure. People today, are more aware of what they can build stuff for. Thanks to the net, and watching videos. If they sold for $750 to $800. I could see that. VQ... don't be so greedy, and you would sale way more of your products. VQ... you have great stuff, but you guys are out of your minds on your prices. Just my .2 cents.  )
I think VQ is a little optimistic with the price. First off, I love the toggle action idea and I hope VQ improves the PWS design and sells a ton of them (then I will pick one up used and for a good price )
But...... This is the year of rimfire guns (imho) Lets see Ruger Precision Rimfire - Ruger Mags, Adjustable trigger, enlarged bolt knob, free floated, swap-able barrels, threaded barrel, MLOK for add-ons, etc..... (I know we don't know the accuracy yet but assuming it's at least CZ 455 good) - all for $400.00 Ruger Target American Rimfire - similar to the above but a traditional looking rifle in a thumbhole wooden stock that's threaded and ready to go CZ 455 - Tried and true, much more in the way of aftermarket stuff out there Tika T1x - Traditional action, adjustable trigger, 10 round mags, Threaded barrel, Tikka action (SMOOTH), accuracy? (knowing tikka I would guess at least CZ 455/452 good) - aftermarket goodies should start this year or year after... and all for $400.00 Lithgow L1A (or whatever it's called) - $1,000 mark, smooth action, accurate (from the reviews I have seen, which mostly have been in AU), looks great (to me) Vudoo - Crazy accurate (Hangs with the big boys), solid action, drops in to remington 700 stocks (probably more choices of 700 stocks than 10-22 stocks), great magazines (price isn't too bad either), takes any remington 700 compatible trigger (pick your poison), Barreled actions were running around $1,450 - I don't know if that was the pre-order price or regular but it's not much more than the VQ Summit Steyr or (ISSC) toggle action - if you're into this type of action ~$400.00 for the ISSC, accuracy and reliability reports are spotty but it's out there and at least the action seems to run smooth. These are just off the top of my head and shot show is right around the corner. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:22:21 AM EDT
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I picked up two Summit actions and built one up with a Mist and another with an SB-X barrel. Lots of fun and enjoyable to shoot but not at the price that VQ is asking for them.
However I am happy to see that there will be continued support for the Summit action and hopefully spare parts if needed. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 4:53:35 PM EDT
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I picked up two Summit actions and built one up with a Mist and another with an SB-X barrel. Lots of fun and enjoyable to shoot but not at the price that VQ is asking for them. However I am happy to see that there will be continued support for the Summit action and hopefully spare parts if needed. How do you like your Summit/Mist? I’ve never handled a Summit- any quirks to head spacing the action? |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 7:05:06 PM EDT
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550.00 action
There might be hope yet. The action will be sold for 550.00. Can’t wait to see the improvements |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 7:20:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @engineer How do you like your Summit/Mist? I've never handled a Summit- any quirks to head spacing the action? As far as head spacing, you use the shims that are provided and a feeler gauge between the bolt face and the barrel to set the headspace - it's a pretty easy process. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 8:24:28 PM EDT
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I also have two summit actions I built into custom suppressed builds. One summit has the Gemtech Mist barrel the second with a SBX shroud barrel. Love the summit action most folks that have a issue need to understand once shimmed correct they run flawless and it’s easy to do. I like the fact the Summit is a closed breeched action for Max suppressed quietness and uses 10/22 extras which means there’s a thousand ways to customize it. I can also toggle the lever faster and without losing my sight picture through optic better than say a normal bolt action reload.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 8:25:57 PM EDT
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I threw my hat into mix and ordered one. I need a bolt action .22 suppressor host. Hopefully, they fix the issues with the pws summit and make it accurate and relible as one would expect from volquartsen. I always wanted one of these for some reason.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 12:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vudoo - Crazy accurate (Hangs with the big boys), solid action, drops in to remington 700 stocks (probably more choices of 700 stocks than 10-22 stocks), great magazines (price isn't too bad either), takes any remington 700 compatible trigger (pick your poison), Barreled actions were running around $1,450 - I don't know if that was the pre-order price or regular but it's not much more than the VQ Summit |
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Posted: 1/18/2018 8:51:27 AM EDT
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Sorry I'm being poor. but that price is stupid.... for a Rimfire.
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Posted: 1/18/2018 9:13:40 AM EDT
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The barreled action is $1770. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Vudoo - Crazy accurate (Hangs with the big boys), solid action, drops in to remington 700 stocks (probably more choices of 700 stocks than 10-22 stocks), great magazines (price isn't too bad either), takes any remington 700 compatible trigger (pick your poison), Barreled actions were running around $1,450 - I don't know if that was the pre-order price or regular but it's not much more than the VQ Summit I am still optimistic because the action alone price of $550.00. If they can dial in all the PWS short comings and have it set up to take advantage of accurate 10-22 barrels, then I might be back on the band wagon. I have a ton of 10-22 crap and it would be nice to be able to use all that on the action. Hell I even have a 10-22 stock similar to the GRS stock (it's the KKC) that I was hoping my Summit would go into (ergos on the stock would be perfect for the toggle action) but it's just sitting in my safe gathering dust  .
My ideal summit would be VQ summit action - (feeds smooth and reliable) Kidd light weight barrel 16.5" threaded (comes with an accuracy guarantee) Trigger - PWS was awesome (probably the best thing about the gun) but I would put in a Kidd single stage or Brimestone Tier 3 trigger Stock - Fully bedded and freefloated KKC stock Scope - There are a lot coming out - maybe PA's new 3-18 or Athlon's 4.5-27 - Problem is to dump that kind of money on a gun, the action better work every time and be worth the price. 
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Posted: 1/19/2018 8:36:48 AM EDT
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Sorry I'm being poor. but that price is stupid.... for a Rimfire. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 3:50:52 AM EDT
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I was told by volquartsen that they are 3 to 4 months out from delivery.
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:36:28 AM EDT
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I was told some time in March. I also emailed and asked if they had tweaked the PWS version to address some problems that had been talked about online and was told that they redesigned the firing pin that they felt was causing a lot of issues.
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:26:46 PM EDT
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I am a Volquartsen dealer, and i was told March for shipping of Summit rifles. I have a couple of customers that ordered direct through Volquartsen, and i am probably going to end up grabbing one for myself, just haven't pulled the rigger yet. Still recovering from the holiday spree, and a deceased dishwasher last week.
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Posted: 1/29/2018 3:26:35 PM EDT
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I am a Volquartsen dealer, and i was told March for shipping of Summit rifles. I have a couple of customers that ordered direct through Volquartsen, and i am probably going to end up grabbing one for myself, just haven't pulled the rigger yet. Still recovering from the holiday spree, and a deceased dishwasher last week. I hope it is March! You will see me sooner.
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Posted: 1/30/2018 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2018 2:25:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2018 4:29:34 PM EDT
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Is that going to be made available here in the US? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is that going to be made available here in the US? |
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Posted: 1/30/2018 5:33:24 PM EDT
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Somebody should start working on a Toggle action.....Ruger....CZ... you reading this...
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Posted: 1/30/2018 5:48:00 PM EDT
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Somebody should start working on a Toggle action.....Ruger....CZ... you reading this... I'm dreaming of a Summit action with a left-sided toggle to build a pistol with. 
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Posted: 1/30/2018 6:32:53 PM EDT
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as awesome as a toggle action is.
The Fortner action imho is better (Anschutz 1727F or 1717F) - ~3100.00 Too bad I'm poor  Anschutz 1827 Fortner Still slick as can be 
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Posted: 1/30/2018 7:21:52 PM EDT
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That guy is soooooo slow.
And they shoot in town.   Failed To Load Title ETA: I have shot the 1827, Izmash, and a turn bolt Anschutz. The 1827 is unreal. |
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Posted: 1/30/2018 8:17:21 PM EDT
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as awesome as a toggle action is. The Fortner action imho is better (Anschutz 1727F or 1717F) - ~3100.00 Too bad I'm poor  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXS8PG6VPQ
Still slick as can be |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 12:26:41 PM EDT
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Just got this email, maybe sent to people that have one on order:
Will the receiver and bolt be available separately? Yes, they will. They can be ordered here. Is the barrel threaded into the receiver or is it a slip fit like the Ruger 10/22? The barrel fits into the receiver very similarly to the Ruger 10/22. This is done for those customers interested in installing an integrally suppressed barrel, or any other barrel, designed for the Ruger 10/22. So does this mean any barrel designed for the Ruger 10/22 will fit? Yes, most aftermarket barrels for the 10/22 will fit and function without any issues. What trigger guards will work in the Summit receiver? We will be offering a trigger guard specific to the Summit rifle that will feature a 1.5 lb trigger pull, but our standard TG2000 Trigger Group will also work. In addition, most aftermarket triggers designed for the Ruger 10/22 will work. We have tested both the KIDD and Ruger 10/22 trigger groups and both functioned without issue. What stocks will be available for the Summit? Most stocks designed for the Ruger 10/22 will fit the Summit action. What have you changed from the original PWS Summit? We did not have to change much as the original design was very good. The most noteworthy change was the firing pin design. Our updating firing pin has taken care of any FTF or FTE issues. Of course, the complete rifles feature our match barrels and trigger groups. Will you be servicing existing PWS Summit parts? We will be providing limited service on PWS-manufactured Summits. This work will be performed at standard shop rates. Will the new firing pin fit in a Summit from PWS? Our updated firing pin will fit the PWS-manufactured Summit, however it is not compatible with the PWS trigger group. When will they start shipping? We are anticipating an early March ship date for initial orders. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 12:31:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryTika T1x - Traditional action, adjustable trigger, 10 round mags, Threaded barrel, Tikka action (SMOOTH), accuracy? (knowing tikka I would guess at least CZ 455/452 good) - aftermarket goodies should start this year or year after... and all for $400.00 |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 1:42:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who has it at $400? I see Euro Optic at $468? Think it might be about 40.00 cheaper. What I want to know is how changing the firing pin will help with FTF and FTE. Can’t wait for some reviews |
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Posted: 3/10/2018 7:58:41 AM EDT
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Any updates on shipping times or has anyone seen them in the wild yet?
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Posted: 3/10/2018 8:21:01 AM EDT
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There's a dealer who posts in a 10/22 Facebook group saying he got four actions in the other day. He posted some pictures so they're out there now.
I kinda want one to build a benchrest rifle out of. |
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Posted: 3/11/2018 10:35:53 PM EDT
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I've got one on order and have not heard anything. I'm looking forward to it!
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Posted: 4/4/2018 1:02:28 PM EDT
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Volquartsen is still a month out on fulfilling my order. I ordered 2nd week in January. Looks like they were correct on the time frame they told me in January. 3 to 4 months.
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Posted: 4/11/2018 12:46:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Just got word from Volquartsen that my Summit is done and will be shipping it to my FFL in the next few days.
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Posted: 4/17/2018 2:40:10 PM EDT
[#37]
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Just got word from Volquartsen that my Summit is done and will be shipping it to my FFL in the next few days. |
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Posted: 4/21/2018 7:00:28 PM EDT
[#38]
It is a nice gun. Action isn't too stiff and moves fairly easily. I don't detect much grittiness when I actuate it. This would be an awesome suppressor host. I'm going to shoot it some time next month hopefully or may leave work early to go to the range.
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Posted: 4/22/2018 7:55:02 AM EDT
[#39]
Just saw a video from brownell where Volquartsen stated that are going to make a centerfire version of the summit. Not sure what caliber it will be but could be awesome for a suppressor host.
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Posted: 4/22/2018 8:41:41 PM EDT
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It is a nice gun. Action isn't too stiff and moves fairly easily. I don't detect much grittiness when I actuate it. This would be an awesome suppressor host. I'm going to shoot it some time next month hopefully or may leave work early to go to the range. |
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Posted: 4/23/2018 11:40:13 AM EDT
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I really want to try one and see how much different it is than the one I had.
Coming out in 17hmr and ceterfire calibers really gets my blood pumping. |
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Posted: 4/28/2018 10:21:11 PM EDT
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Little 300 blackout sbr would be pretty cool.
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I'm good with either one, .. c'mon somebody.... built one... at an affordable price point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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as awesome as a toggle action is. The Fortner action imho is better (Anschutz 1727F or 1717F) - ~3100.00 Too bad I'm poor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXS8PG6VPQ
Still slick as can be |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 10:53:29 AM EDT
[#43]
Curious to see how it is compared to the Izhmash. I regret selling my 7-2 KO
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Posted: 5/6/2018 2:32:59 PM EDT
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Picture for those who want to see:
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:02:32 PM EDT
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I will going out in the next few days shooting my VQ summit with the following:
Cci SV SK Match Lapua center x CCI 36 grain high velocity Super colibri I have some blazer and blue champion federal too. My serial number is very low and one of the first ones out. I will give an aar after a trip to the range. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:20:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Any update on how these are running?
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Posted: 9/8/2018 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Glad to see the Summit is still being produced. Here is my PWS Summit with a Gemtech MIST-22 in a Magpul Hunter X-22. The red dot is a Vortex Crossfire.
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