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Posted: 4/20/2021 1:57:08 AM EDT
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Some time back, the Army did a study.that apparently showed TBIs could be reduced by using one or two sizes larger helmets.
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Posted: 4/20/2021 4:18:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some time back, the Army did a study.that apparently showed TBIs could be reduced by using one or two sizes larger helmets. I don't know that study, but this makes sense to me (think of back-face deformation for body armor). Space between is a good thing OP, even for bumping your noggin. A thicker pad would be better, would it not? Why do you want a size M helmet so bad? |
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Posted: 4/20/2021 10:29:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know that study, but this makes sense to me (think of back-face deformation for body armor). Space between is a good thing OP, even for bumping your noggin. A thicker pad would be better, would it not? Why do you want a size M helmet so bad? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some time back, the Army did a study.that apparently showed TBIs could be reduced by using one or two sizes larger helmets. I don't know that study, but this makes sense to me (think of back-face deformation for body armor). Space between is a good thing OP, even for bumping your noggin. A thicker pad would be better, would it not? Why do you want a size M helmet so bad? I’m on the edge for both and it was used/surplus/what they have available for a good deal |
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Posted: 4/20/2021 10:49:13 AM EDT
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Pads come in both 1/2 and 3/4". The pads location and thickness along with their stiffness allows for a lot of size adjustment. A bigger helmet will be easier to fit multiple heads but bigger helmets weigh more and are obviously bigger, so there is good and bad to going the next size up, IMO.
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Posted: 4/20/2021 10:56:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pads come in both 1/2 and 3/4". The pads location and thickness along with their stiffness allows for a lot of size adjustment. A bigger helmet will be easier to fit multiple heads but bigger helmets weigh more and are obviously bigger, so there is good and bad to going the next size up, IMO. Could you point me towards where there are 1/2” pads? I can’t seem to find any online |
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Posted: 4/20/2021 11:14:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2021 11:58:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pads come in both 1/2 and 3/4". The pads location and thickness along with their stiffness allows for a lot of size adjustment. A bigger helmet will be easier to fit multiple heads but bigger helmets weigh more and are obviously bigger, so there is good and bad to going the next size up, IMO. |
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Posted: 4/20/2021 1:18:19 PM EDT
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Im in the same boat between L and XL. Used the 4D pads in the L and fits great.
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Posted: 4/20/2021 1:57:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im in the same boat between L and XL. Used the 4D pads in the L and fits great. Good to know. I was looking at that or the Team Wendy EPIC system since they seem to offer a choice between thick and thin padding. I also might try to see if there is someone local willing to swap or trade. |
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Posted: 4/21/2021 6:28:00 PM EDT
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I tried the Epic and for me it was a no go.
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Posted: 4/21/2021 9:31:54 PM EDT
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Another vote for 4D Tactical pads.
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Posted: 4/21/2021 10:43:25 PM EDT
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Thanks fellas I might have to take you up on the recommendation.
I saw these as well if anyone has opinions on them: -GALVION BATLSKIN VIPER ACH PAD SET -MSA ACH MICH 1/2 Pads (only $28) Gotta get a chinstrap as well soon |
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Posted: 4/21/2021 10:53:26 PM EDT
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Buy the size you need sell the size you have
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Posted: 4/26/2021 3:01:45 AM EDT
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Just an update: found some 1/2” Oregon Aero pads that fit amazing. They feel fantastic and their harness system works great too
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Posted: 4/26/2021 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you point me towards where there are 1/2” pads? I can’t seem to find any online The army only has 2 sizes of pads. 3/4” and 1”. This is because 3/4” provides the minimum cushioning acceptable to the army. Size discrepancies that cannot be resolved by 3/4” or 1” pads are solved by a different (correctly) sized helmet |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 12:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The army only has 2 sizes of pads. 3/4” and 1”. This is because 3/4” provides the minimum cushioning acceptable to the army. Size discrepancies that cannot be resolved by 3/4” or 1” pads are solved by a different (correctly) sized helmet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could you point me towards where there are 1/2” pads? I can’t seem to find any online The army only has 2 sizes of pads. 3/4” and 1”. This is because 3/4” provides the minimum cushioning acceptable to the army. Size discrepancies that cannot be resolved by 3/4” or 1” pads are solved by a different (correctly) sized helmet Yeah I went down the rabbit hole and started to learn about the different pad offerings out there. It makes sense that they would set a minimum. I know people want to swear by Mil-spec standards, but I think personally for civilians that will just have a helmet sitting in a closet for emergency use it’s not as big of a deal. I opted for 1/2” pads and now the set-up works great. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 11:10:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I went down the rabbit hole and started to learn about the different pad offerings out there. It makes sense that they would set a minimum. I know people want to swear by Mil-spec standards, but I think personally for civilians that will just have a helmet sitting in a closet for emergency use it’s not as big of a deal. I opted for 1/2” pads and now the set-up works great. Where'd you find the pads? I'd like to have some on hand for some of my spare hand me down ach's. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/3/2021 9:46:36 PM EDT
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If you know how to sew you can take the pads apart, thin them down, and resew. You will see how the pads are made as well.
I have made some custom pads that were very comfortable. Going with a lighter helmet may not be ideal for impacts but it would have to reduce neck injuries. I know lighter is better when wearing all day. |
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Posted: 5/4/2021 6:59:18 AM EDT
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You don't even need to sew the covers to change padding. I make a small cut at the rear of the pad covers to remove and install pads. Once the covers are stuck into the helmet, the Velcro keeps them closed.
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Posted: 5/4/2021 11:40:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where'd you find the pads? I'd like to have some on hand for some of my spare hand me down ach's. Thanks. They have size 4 pads on Oregon Aero’s website. They are patterned green/black so look out for those. I checked eBay and they have some crown pads but I didn’t see a full kit available. |
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Posted: 5/4/2021 11:42:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you know how to sew you can take the pads apart, thin them down, and resew. You will see how the pads are made as well. I have made some custom pads that were very comfortable. Going with a lighter helmet may not be ideal for impacts but it would have to reduce neck injuries. I know lighter is better when wearing all day. I saw the same recommendation in another thread and I had done that with the typical pads the LWH comes with. I realized that there are two forms of foam thickness so cutting the material you have to decide which side to shave down. It worked in a pinch but I much prefer the Oregon aero system. |
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