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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:22:14 AM EDT
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Seems a lot of the newer cans have swappable mounting systems that wouldn't work for your application. I'd probably go with the Trek.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:27:25 AM EDT
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Seems a lot of the newer cans have swappable mounting systems that wouldn't work for your application. I'd probably go with the Trek. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:34:56 AM EDT
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Griffin GP5 would be a good pick.
Sure seems like it would be a hassle to clean the barrel with a suppressor permanently mounted to the barrel. In reality you're not saving much money after you pay some one for the pin and weld. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:36:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By that do you mean the can be unthreaded at the level of the mounting system, thus negating the pin weld? I think the Griffin is exactly like the Trek in that regard. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:06:25 PM EDT
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Griffin GP5 would be a good pick. Sure seems like it would be a hassle to clean the barrel with a suppressor permanently mounted to the barrel. In reality you're not saving much money after you pay some one for the pin and weld. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:11:15 PM EDT
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I’d look hard at the direct thread Saker 5.56 I’ve seen being sold for $325 (I think).
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:17:25 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/SilencerCo-Saker-K-5-56-Direct-Thread-Brand-New-in-Bulk-Wrapper-325-00/118-1781743/
This is a good deal that fits your criteria too. ETA: He beat me to it... ^^^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:17:26 PM EDT
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If you don't mind the weight, this is exactly what the TBAC Takedown 5.56 was meant for, and it's well under $500.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:25:05 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/SilencerCo-Saker-K-5-56-Direct-Thread-Brand-New-in-Bulk-Wrapper-325-00/118-1781743/ This is a good deal that fits your criteria too. ETA: He beat me to it... ^^^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 4:23:08 PM EDT
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Thanks all!
So out of those 4 choices, what would be the top 2? Prices are similar, dimensions are similar, reputation of manufacturers are similar (and excellent). They all seem to pretty much the same to me. Any personal experience on why you’d get one over another? I have a couple of Sakers so I know about the weight. The fixed saker and Gemtech are certainly cheaper. I have 2 uppers in mind currently. I have a 10.5 and a 11.5 (just the barrel right now). I’d get the suppressors for them. Both with NON adjustable F gas blocks. I can use an adjustable carrier though. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 4:55:33 PM EDT
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I though hansohn had a competitive price on a GP5
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Posted: 11/7/2018 5:21:15 PM EDT
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I thought the trek was good down to a 10.5 barrel. Pretty sure this is what one of the people from gemtech said that used to post on here.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 5:36:12 PM EDT
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My innovative arms grunt mini is pretty nice. Haa wrench flats. Probably need about an 11.5 is maybe 12 inch barrel to meet 16 inches.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 5:38:29 PM EDT
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I though hansohn had a competitive price on a GP5 |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 5:53:27 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/SilencerCo-Saker-K-5-56-Direct-Thread-Brand-New-in-Bulk-Wrapper-325-00/118-1781743/ This is a good deal that fits your criteria too. ETA: He beat me to it... ^^^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 8:28:25 PM EDT
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Don’t pin and weld or silver solder. PITA to remove. Did it with a trek. Great can but just do the SBR or pistol. Especially with eforms so fast now.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 10:19:52 PM EDT
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Tbac dsu what you looking for.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:05:30 AM EDT
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Anything that can swap mounting systems (Dead Air, Q, Silencerco) would have to be welded at every threaded joint to be counted for overall length. I'm not familiar with the Griffin, but I know the Trek is solid front to back, so it should work well for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: By that do you mean the can be unthreaded at the level of the mounting system, thus negating the pin weld? I think the Griffin is exactly like the Trek in that regard. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:06:48 AM EDT
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Don’t pin and weld or silver solder. PITA to remove. Did it with a trek. Great can but just do the SBR or pistol. Especially with eforms so fast now. 
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:07:24 AM EDT
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Now it’s just a matter of which one to get. The Trek allegedly weighs 17ish oz and the Griffin is 12ish oz. Remaining specs are virtually identical.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:29:33 AM EDT
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Haven't handled that particular can, but Griffin makes nice stuff.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:51:50 AM EDT
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I have a cheap Trek. I’d get another at the price I paid. I doubt you can make a bad decision amongst those choices.
ETA: I’ve personally been talking myself out of the Saker from Unbranded. (Fiscal priorities) |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:02:25 AM EDT
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I have a cheap Trek. I’d get another at the price I paid. I doubt you can make a bad decision amongst those choices. ETA: I’ve personally been talking myself out of the Saker from Unbranded. (Fiscal priorities) Trek 2 is $300.99 Saker K is $325 Griffin is 395 (maybe less) All specs are equal with the Griffin being the lightest. I’m leaning toward the Griffin. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:08:35 AM EDT
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Sorry OP, the hive has already conclude P/W a suppressor is a terrible idea
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:14:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prices I’ve seen. 1.Trek 2 is $300.99 2.Saker K is $325 3.Griffin is 395 (maybe less) All specs are equal with the Griffin being the lightest. I’m leaning toward the Griffin. 
I’m sure there is no wrong answer... except over thinking and waiting. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prices I’ve seen. Trek 2 is $300.99 Saker K is $325 Griffin is 395 (maybe less) All specs are equal with the Griffin being the lightest. I’m leaning toward the Griffin. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:16:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt’s still his thread and a valid question. What’s your point? (Even though I agree)
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Posted: 11/8/2018 1:18:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryRead through it. None applies to me. I have SBRs, I have braces, I don’t need or want to move the can around. I don’t need to user service a rifle can.
I have an email out to Hansohn regarding the Griffin. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 8:48:52 AM EDT
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If the HPA had passed there would have been gigantic threads on pin and weld Form 1 cans for zero stamp guns. Oh well.
If you do the P/W yourself the economics aren't too bad. If some one combined the lightness of the Griffin with the baffle access of the TBAC that would be a nice set-up. I can also envision a reflex design that could be permanent, but reflex designs have fallen out if favor for more easily swappable muzzle cans. Have fun with it. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 9:06:37 AM EDT
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Tbac dsu what you looking for. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 10:56:26 AM EDT
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If you don't mind the weight, this is exactly what the TBAC Takedown 5.56 was meant for, and it's well under $500. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 12:22:02 PM EDT
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Sig SRD556 (direct thread steel version) has been a great balance of weight, performance, length, cost for me and can be easily found for less than $500.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 3:39:45 PM EDT
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Sig SRD556 (direct thread steel version) has been a great balance of weight, performance, length, cost for me and can be easily found for less than $500. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 6:32:20 PM EDT
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This thread has me thinking that I want to pin and weld a .30 cal can on a bolt action .308 for a suppressed hunting rifle that can cross state lines without permission.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 6:51:52 PM EDT
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This thread has me thinking that I want to pin and weld a .30 cal can on a bolt action .308 for a suppressed hunting rifle that can cross state lines without permission. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 7:51:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/8/2018 10:55:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/9/2018 12:41:13 AM EDT
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Sig SRD556 (direct thread steel version) has been a great balance of weight, performance, length, cost for me and can be easily found for less than $500. |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 12:56:55 AM EDT
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Isn't that thing almost 30 ounces? |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 12:58:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that thing almost 30 ounces? |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 11:08:00 PM EDT
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Ummm...NO. It is a bit heavier than the spec weight sig puts out, but is still only like 13-14 oz Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Isn't that thing almost 30 ounces? |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:08:55 PM EDT
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I bought a Griffin GP-5 and a GP-7. Price, reputation, reviews were perfect for this application.
Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 4:18:03 PM EDT
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our 556 TD is heavy but balances a 10.5 perfect making it extremely shootable. And it can be pinned but still get to baffles for rotation and change as needed.
Here is some sound testing with 75 TAP ammo  Thunder Beast DSU with TAP SBR ammo sound test with Pulse system |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 7:13:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hansohn are good peoples, also take a look at the YHM Turbo, extra discount from Hansohn if you mention you’re an ARFCOMMER |
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