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Posted: 8/9/2022 8:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jtb33: With eforms digitized, one thing that would significantly cut down on the wait time that would be EASY to implement is to cross reference a submission that is about to be approved to see if there are any other submissions pending from the same person/entity. A LOT of us have many eForms in the queue. I have a half-dozen stretching from March to July, and I had one approved 2 weeks ago. Had they cross referenced my SSN or LLC name, or just my eForm account - they'd see that I had 6 more I already submitted and could have batch approved those with a cursory review for accuracy and completeness. Instead, they treat ALL of them as separate forms and do everyone a disservice with a huge waste of time. |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 8:41:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Eform 1’s are creeping up on their “goal” number
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Posted: 8/9/2022 9:08:13 PM EDT
[#3]
I guess I should take solace in that the 5320.20s I submitted yesterday will probably get back to me before my suppressor is approved.
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Posted: 8/9/2022 9:51:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By jtb33: In his defense, generally speaking, a goal is something you gradually move closer towards - not slide further away from. Just sayin'.  Y’all apparently have never set a weight loss goal.
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Posted: 8/10/2022 2:16:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jhon]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: For those questioning how the forms are done with the ATF…. I asked that same question to an examiner that was helping me with multiple forms submitted at the same time, but only one was approved. So I asked about the other form and how the system worked. This was the reply (for form 1’s) Hey Sean, The forms get divided up between myself and the others on the Eform 1 team. Each examiner works at their own speed so its possible another examiner got assigned your other form and they haven’t got to it yet. Whats your other control number? That tells me there is little oversight or supervision so you end up with some examiners who do a good job and a majority that are mediocre 
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Posted: 8/10/2022 2:32:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhon: That tells me there is little oversight or supervision so you end up with some examiners who do a good job and a majority that are mediocre |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 3:07:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: I think thats mostly a given and considering the branch of govt, there is no emphasis on accountability Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By jhon: That tells me there is little oversight or supervision so you end up with some examiners who do a good job and a majority that are mediocre you would think that they have daily, weekly, monthly processing goals... who knows. |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 3:57:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon: Y'all apparently have never set a weight loss goal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon: Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By jtb33: In his defense, generally speaking, a goal is something you gradually move closer towards - not slide further away from. Just sayin'. Y'all apparently have never set a weight loss goal. 
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Posted: 8/10/2022 4:07:30 PM EDT
[#9]
guess that makes sense why my First F1 submitted 6-20-2022 approved 6-29-2022---9 days
second F1 submitted 7-16-2022 approved --pending third F1 submitted 8-1-2022 approved ---- pending so the first one is 9 days but the second one is still pending after 25 days makes a whole lot of sense. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2022 1:33:41 PM EDT
[#10]
Today makes day 180 on my e-form 4
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Posted: 8/12/2022 2:32:46 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm at 59 days for my Form 1 (DD) and still no internal control number. Is this normal?
Submitted 06/14 |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 2:40:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landsat8: I'm at 59 days for my Form 1 (DD) and still no internal control number. Is this normal? Submitted 06/14 |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 3:34:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roland-G23]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landsat8: I'm at 59 days for my Form 1 (DD) and still no internal control number. Is this normal? Submitted 06/14 You create the internal control number. That's what I did so I knew which forms went to which guns. I forgot on the 1st one, but didn't on the next 2. 
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Posted: 8/12/2022 3:59:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: You create the internal control number. That's what I did so I knew which forms went to which guns. I forgot on the 1st one, but didn't on the next 2. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74797/internalcontrol-2486535.jpg That's neat, didn't know that. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:06:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Today is my 6 MONTH anniversary for my e-form 4! February 16th! I should have rescinded my application and resubmitted it from scratch when I saw people in June getting approved with April submittals.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:30:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Hang in there. Mine was submitted 2/14 and approved yesterday. It's bullshit, but you should be close.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:41:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stowe: Hang in there. Mine was submitted 2/14 and approved yesterday. It's bullshit, but you should be close. Thanks for pulling off the cliff. I've waited this long so why not a few more days? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:55:15 PM EDT
[#18]
For what it's worth, mine was approved by Michael Emery. If yours ends up being the same guy we'll have the beginning of a pattern and valid reason to send hate mail 😆
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:55:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Day 165... hopefully I'll get it before October. I'd like to get it before my trip to Alaska.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2022 8:51:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stowe: For what it's worth, mine was approved by Michael Emery. If yours ends up being the same guy we'll have the beginning of a pattern and valid reason to send hate mail 😆 hahaha, mine was signed by Tracy Cambell. Found the email this morning! |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 9:11:28 AM EDT
[#21]
I've passed day 120 for me e-form4 suppressor. I'm ok with waiting, except I'm closing on a house in 3 weeks. I now have to decide on putting off my move, or going to the back of the line again.
 At least I can stay in my current place until Jan. |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 9:37:12 AM EDT
[#22]
187 days for me. 2/11.
Best 90 days ever. 
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Posted: 8/17/2022 11:03:13 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thor: I've passed day 120 for me e-form4 suppressor. I'm ok with waiting, except I'm closing on a house in 3 weeks. I now have to decide on putting off my move, or going to the back of the line again. At least I can stay in my current place until Jan. Are you moving out of state? If not, it matters not. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2022 8:19:30 PM EDT
[#24]
My Efile Form4 (Trust) came back disapproved at 170 days.
Reason: My FFL transposed 2 numbers for my address on the RPQ form. I have 4 more Form4's in cue with the same mistake. Could someone please tell me how they corrected an Efile? How do you get the examiners email? My best guess for the examiner signature is Heather Rjaske |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 8:45:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mdavis]
[#25]
I, like most of everyone here I believe, keep records of approval times. In my experience, using eForm 4s in January 2022 resulted in quick approval times (89-109 days) for me, but that has now ballooned out. Putting today's date (8/17) for the eForm 4s submitted in March 16 results in a 154 day approval period. My guess is those are approved inside 180 days (fingers crossed).
On the flip side, eForm 1 approval times, while volatile, have stayed <60 days generally (quickest being 23 days and the longest being 127 days). |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 10:15:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mdavis: I, like most of everyone here I believe, keep records of approval times. I thought the chart below may help some folks while they wait. You can see that using eForm 4s in January 2022 resulted in quick approval times (89-109 days) for me, but that has now ballooned out. Putting today's date (8/17) for the eForm 4s submitted in March 16 results in a 154 day approval period. My guess is those are approved inside 180 days (fingers crossed). On the flip side, eForm 1 approval times, while volatile, have stayed <60 days generally (quickest being 23 days and the longest being 127 days). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/142825/Times-2493028.jpg Efile form 1 (trust) is at 64 days and counting. |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 10:17:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landsat8: Efile form 1 (trust) is at 64 days and counting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landsat8: Originally Posted By mdavis: I, like most of everyone here I believe, keep records of approval times. I thought the chart below may help some folks while they wait. You can see that using eForm 4s in January 2022 resulted in quick approval times (89-109 days) for me, but that has now ballooned out. Putting today's date (8/17) for the eForm 4s submitted in March 16 results in a 154 day approval period. My guess is those are approved inside 180 days (fingers crossed). On the flip side, eForm 1 approval times, while volatile, have stayed <60 days generally (quickest being 23 days and the longest being 127 days). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/142825/Times-2493028.jpg Efile form 1 (trust) is at 64 days and counting. Hopefully yours won't be like my first one at 127 days. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2022 7:51:08 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thor: I've passed day 120 for me e-form4 suppressor. I'm ok with waiting, except I'm closing on a house in 3 weeks. I now have to decide on putting off my move, or going to the back of the line again. At least I can stay in my current place until Jan. post office will forward mail for 6 months. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 1:28:28 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DogtownTom: Are you moving out of state? If not, it matters not. Out of state |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 2:00:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Anyone get the email yet?
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Posted: 8/18/2022 2:12:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snakeyes711: Anyone get the email yet? Yes. A scheduled outing for maintenance. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 2:30:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thor]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By r-2-k-b-a: post office will forward mail for 6 months. Yeah, but the drive. I hate driving! New place is a nice house in the woods just outside city limits, so I may just air-bnb the place until I get my can. I don't need to move right now, I just want too. Besides, without the can my wife will likely object to me shooting off the back deck of the new place anyway, so what's the point?
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Posted: 8/18/2022 3:31:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: snakeyes711]
[#33]
I like their eform wait times, says 100 days still. Lol
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Posted: 8/18/2022 10:05:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snakeyes711: I like their eform wait times, says 100 days still. Lol LOL, ATF doesn't update that page every day.  |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2022 10:53:02 PM EDT
[#35]
All I know is the further this gets for me, the more the average days moves back. I’m at about 162 days now. 3 weeks ago, that would have been the outside number. Now, it’s just the earliest approval time. Seems like they’ll keep moving it back and I’ll never get approved. What a mess…
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2022 11:16:21 AM EDT
[#36]
The last time I did a form 4 was 2016. I bought a suppressor last month and am remembering the pain. I am now back to checking this thread and the tracking thread everyday like a junkie, just like last time
 Worthy waste of a neat post count |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 12:16:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fredegar: The last time I did a form 4 was 2016. I bought a suppressor last month and am remembering the pain. I am now back to checking this thread and the tracking thread everyday like a junkie, just like last time Worthy waste of a neat post count |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 1:23:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TescoVee: That's why you buy a new one every time you go to pick up an approved one. Your body just learns to tune out the low level chronic pain.  |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 1:41:05 PM EDT
[#39]
no you buy a new one every week or month so you have consistent approvals coming in
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Posted: 8/22/2022 9:24:57 AM EDT
[#40]
I've noticed that over the past couple months, I've stopped getting email notifications of approvals. They used to go into my spam folder by default, but now, they don't arrive at all. I've had to check every couple weeks and the last 3 approvals, I've only known about after logging into eForms and seeing approvals that are 3-5 days old.
Anyone else not getting emails from them upon approval? |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 9:29:45 AM EDT
[#41]
No I got my latest approval email on 8/19. Possibly check in your email settings to see if they are blocking emails from the the [email protected] email address.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:16:29 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cowboy: 187 days for me. 2/11. Best 90 days ever. Approved on day 193. And my dealer is on vacation for 2 weeks. FML
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USA
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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:58:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktalk: no you buy a new one every week or month so you have consistent approvals coming in Yeah but that gets expensive. I'm only buying 2 a month and struggling to keep it going! |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 2:11:32 PM EDT
[#44]
I'm at 182 days
I just certified another can last week. Wonder if that one will take the same or longer? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:02:05 AM EDT
[#45]
It feels like we're never going to get past February submissions. We've been on February since what, early June?
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:10:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LawVol: It feels like we're never going to get past February submissions. We've been on February since what, early June?
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:23:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: steve8140]
[#47]
I have been saying “any day know” every day for the past 3 months.
Top two are paper, bottom is eform. EDIT TO ADD: called ATF today to check the status and after giving her the info the woman ask “have you spoken to you’re examiner yet?” She transferred my call and I left a voicemail. Not sure what it means but it sounds like it’s finally being looked at.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 10:03:13 AM EDT
[#48]
452 days, holy shit.
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Posted: 8/25/2022 10:16:33 AM EDT
[#49]
Paper Trust:
Rugged Obsidian 45 Days since purchase: 545 Mons since purchase: 18 Days since $ cashed: 436 YHM Resonator 2 Days since purchase: 323 Mons since purchase: 10 Days since $ cashed: 303 |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 2:58:59 PM EDT
[#50]
SilencerShop's ATF Wait Times tracker finally stopped trying to be accurate. It ticked over from tracking the average day wait to just saying "six months".
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