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Posted: 4/16/2019 1:06:59 PM EDT
in 6.5 Creedmoor..what else?? LOL
Seriously, this rifle definitely has potential, now to tune some loads for it!  The 400 Yard Lever Action Henry 6.5 Creedmoor |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 1:29:21 PM EDT
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Okay...but why?
Edit: for the record, it's quite a good video! I'm just questioning the purpose of the rifle itself. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 1:39:22 PM EDT
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Okay...but why? Look tacticools if you are too good for the old cartridges then GET A NEW RIFLE. Stop molesting everything because you want to feel good. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 1:55:13 PM EDT
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Exxxxfuckingzactly what's with everybody putting their dickbeaters on all of the classic rifles and retrofitting them for new calibers. Look tacticools if you are too good for the old cartridges then GET A NEW RIFLE. Stop molesting everything because you want to feel good. I've no problem with modernizing old designs or putting funny rounds in weird guns, I just don't quite get the point of trying to make a lever gun do long range. Gimmie a lever gun in 300blk with a 16in threaded barrel or 458 SOCOM that takes AR mags and you're going to have all of my attention. Or a 375 Raptor would be sweet as well, even if it didn't take AR10 mags. 
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Posted: 4/16/2019 2:10:33 PM EDT
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400? Marlin 45-70 guide gun at 1080 yards
[youtube]embed/zruU2xLcm1o"[/youtube] I was looking at the 6.5 LA the other day and may get one. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 2:15:57 PM EDT
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My 44 can do 400 yards.
With 6.5 Creed, they should be saying 1400 yards. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 4:22:54 PM EDT
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With a 44 what's the hold over at 400 yards?
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Posted: 4/16/2019 4:33:02 PM EDT
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Aim at the sun at high noon?
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Posted: 4/16/2019 4:47:55 PM EDT
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That action looks like a Browning BLR
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:57:22 PM EDT
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I had a Savage 99 in .308 easy 400 yard gun
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:04:40 PM EDT
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With a 44 what's the hold over at 400 yards? Just gotta have something in the background for reference. If I was using blue sky, I'd be lost.
Then again, I've spent time shooting 400 yard steel wih a Glock 17. Only about 20% hits though. 
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, it's not even that. I just don't get the point of trying to make a levergun do long range, when it's got a fair few issues inherent that stack up against it vs a bolt action. One of which being that lever guns kinda suck to try and shoot from the prone. An advantage of lever-guns is that they're quick to handle and shoot, especially on close and/or moving targets. Additionally, they're often chambered in cartridges that are a bit slow but fairly heavy to help punch through brush, which the lighter fast long range rounds don't generally handle quite as well. I've no problem with modernizing old designs or putting funny rounds in weird guns, I just don't quite get the point of trying to make a lever gun do long range. Gimmie a lever gun in 300blk with a 16in threaded barrel or 458 SOCOM that takes AR mags and you're going to have all of my attention. Or a 375 Raptor would be sweet as well, even if it didn't take AR10 mags. |
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Posted: 4/17/2019 12:43:25 AM EDT
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I had a Savage 99 in .308 easy 400 yard gun |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 4:56:26 PM EDT
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Exxxxfuckingzactly what's with everybody putting their dickbeaters on all of the classic rifles and retrofitting them for new calibers. Look tacticools if you are too good for the old cartridges then GET A NEW RIFLE. Stop molesting everything because you want to feel good. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 5:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a new Henry rifle based on the Browning BLR. It isn’t an old rifle. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 5:35:48 PM EDT
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The idea of Lever Action rifle is not new. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It’s a new Henry rifle based on the Browning BLR. It isn’t an old rifle. But they started making them in the 1960s, not the 1860s |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 6:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rack and pinion and rotating bolt is newer tech I bought my BLR in the late 80s. But they started making them in the 1960s, not the 1860s |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 6:42:40 PM EDT
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That action looks like a Browning BLR |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 6:45:40 PM EDT
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Fair point Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The rack and pinion and rotating bolt is newer tech I bought my BLR in the late 80s. But they started making them in the 1960s, not the 1860s a steel framed one you should try it. They are accurate rifles and so good looking. the machine work on mine is a work of art. Mine (308) is sub MOA all day long. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 6:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not sure if you ever shot one, but if you get the chance to handle and shoot a steel framed one you should try it. They are accurate rifles and so good looking. the machine work on mine is a work of art. Mine (308) is sub MOA all day long. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:29:20 PM EDT
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I can see the point. Hunting out west on horseback, lever guns are better in a scabbard and having that kind of range (while likely never really going to need it) is nice piece of mind on expensive tags.
Other than that niche scenario, it’s cool but that’s about it
I still want one, in .308 though. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:44:27 PM EDT
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38-55 Marlin Cowboy with tang ladder sight, Hand cast lead slugs and Unique or Universal rings steel all day at 500yrds
 you do need to wait on it awhile though
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Posted: 4/20/2019 1:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rack and pinion and rotating bolt is newer tech I bought my BLR in the late 80s. But they started making them in the 1960s, not the 1860s Chambering it in Grendel or Creed is perfectly legit for the platform. Nobody is saying Savage 99’s, Winchester 95’s, 88’s or Finnwolfs are dumb.. |
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Posted: 4/20/2019 3:22:25 PM EDT
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And those 1960’s rifles were built around modern cartriges like .308, .243, 300 Win mag etc. Chambering it in Grendel or Creed is perfectly legit for the platform. Nobody is saying Savage 99’s, Winchester 95’s, 88’s or Finnwolfs are dumb.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The rack and pinion and rotating bolt is newer tech I bought my BLR in the late 80s. But they started making them in the 1960s, not the 1860s Chambering it in Grendel or Creed is perfectly legit for the platform. Nobody is saying Savage 99’s, Winchester 95’s, 88’s or Finnwolfs are dumb.. in real world hunting and outdoor "activities" and always have been. |
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Posted: 5/1/2019 1:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly, I love lever actions. They are not benchrest queens. But are very handy in real world hunting and outdoor "activities" and always have been. Some guys act like you shot their dog.
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Posted: 5/1/2019 5:09:49 PM EDT
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I've used my Winchester 88 in .308 with a Redfield Revolution 3-9x40 scope to shoot at 1' steel plates at 400yds. Not that hard to hit them either.
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Posted: 5/1/2019 10:22:15 PM EDT
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Yawn...an ugly copy of a Browning BLR with ugly wood to match.
Not sure what the point is here. The Browning version has been available in a whole slate of long-range calibers for many years. Is this a lot cheaper? I hope so considering the crappy finish on the metal. I had a $79 SKS with nicer wood and bluing than that. |
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Posted: 5/30/2019 6:54:59 PM EDT
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Here is a video about the 223/556 model. wood looks good and it performs really
good. I have wanted some extra mags for my 308 BLR, hope theirs fit my rifle. I might buy a 223 version.  The Henry Long Ranger in .223/5.56 |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 8:40:10 PM EDT
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I have a Henry Long Ranger in .308....Here's why....
The state I live in, WA, passed a law that requires training, registration, and a special license to buy any semi-automatic rifle starting July1st. Really! Even a 10-22! So the next fastest repeating rifle for shooting at moving targets after a semi-auto is a lever action, IMHO! Magazine loading is much faster than stuffing a tube one round at a time. Magazines also allow for pointed type projectiles. So the 2 standouts for me were the BLR and Henry Long Ranger. I did my research and settled on the Henry instead of the BLR for one reason. The BLR has a 1-12 twist, The Henry 1-10. In .308 1-12 typically won't stabilize the heavier offerings of that caliber. I set my rifle up with a Skinner Peep sight that also has a rail for a quick release scope mount. The front sight had to be raised to fit the peep sight, so I went with a fiber optic front sight. It's sighted in at 200 yards. Off the bag on my bench I'm shooting 3"-4" at 200 yards with the peep sight. More than adequate for me. I'm going to set up a light scope for it for in case I need to make a 400-500 yard shot. The theory being I can pull the scope out and mount it if I find myself in that position, but would carry the rifle almost all the time with the peep sight the way it is. The best of a bad situation brought me back to the lever action for predators. Some of you have said if you want a scope why not get a bolt? They're too slow. The magazine feed is a no brainer for this use. It's not about nostalgia for me. It's about the best option today. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 9:34:33 PM EDT
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I have a Henry Long Ranger in .308....Here's why.... The state I live in, WA, passed a law that requires training, registration, and a special license to buy any semi-automatic rifle starting July1st. Really! Even a 10-22! So the next fastest repeating rifle for shooting at moving targets after a semi-auto is a lever action, IMHO! Magazine loading is much faster than stuffing a tube one round at a time. Magazines also allow for pointed type projectiles. So the 2 standouts for me were the BLR and Henry Long Ranger. I did my research and settled on the Henry instead of the BLR for one reason. The BLR has a 1-12 twist, The Henry 1-10. In .308 1-12 typically won't stabilize the heavier offerings of that caliber. I set my rifle up with a Skinner Peep sight that also has a rail for a quick release scope mount. The front sight had to be raised to fit the peep sight, so I went with a fiber optic front sight. It's sighted in at 200 yards. Off the bag on my bench I'm shooting 3"-4" at 200 yards with the peep sight. More than adequate for me. I'm going to set up a light scope for it for in case I need to make a 400-500 yard shot. The theory being I can pull the scope out and mount it if I find myself in that position, but would carry the rifle almost all the time with the peep sight the way it is. The best of a bad situation brought me back to the lever action for predators. Some of you have said if you want a scope why not get a bolt? They're too slow. The magazine feed is a no brainer for this use. It's not about nostalgia for me. It's about the best option today. Also, I know most of the literature says nothing slower than 1:10 for heavy .30 caliber but that's not entirely true, my 1895 Winchester in .30-40 has a 1:12 twist and it stabilizes 220 grain bullets very well. |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 12:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I had a Savage 99 in .308 easy 400 yard gun |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 5:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure what part of WA you are in but we should get together some day. I'd like a friendly challenge of speed, my GSR vs. your lever. Although we wen't with different actions we agree on the detachable box magazine for this wonderful state. My favorite lever gun is the 1895 Winchester, it's much quicker to load that the standard Kings Patent loading gate but still not as fast as a dbm. Also, I know most of the literature says nothing slower than 1:10 for heavy .30 caliber but that's not entirely true, my 1895 Winchester in .30-40 has a 1:12 twist and it stabilizes 220 grain bullets very well. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 2:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I had a Savage 99 in .308 easy 400 yard gun |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 2:50:14 PM EDT
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400? Marlin 45-70 guide gun at 1080 yards  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embed/zruU2xLcm1o"
I was looking at the 6.5 LA the other day and may get one. 
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Posted: 6/13/2019 3:53:29 PM EDT
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Okay...but why? Edit: for the record, it's quite a good video! I'm just questioning the purpose of the rifle itself. |
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Posted: 6/15/2019 2:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 99E with the box magazine? I’ve always wanted to find a deal on one of those. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 11:47:19 AM EDT
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ZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:42:07 PM EDT
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Why not. I have a BLR in .308 and love it. I want the Henry, just not sure what caliber. What I'd love to see is a lever gun chambered in 300blk with a 16in barrel and enough muzzle left after the front sight for threading. It'd let you have a lightweight, low-recoiling, quick handling and shooting rifle that'd do great on medium size game out to a couple hundred yards - while still being 50 state legal. But if you live in a non-ban state, or if it's just a partially infringed state, you could thread and suppress it easily. Sticking with bigger calibers, I'd rather see it set up for bigger heavier pointy bullets that still focus on the closer in work that lever actions are good for. For me, I just don't get the point of a smaller, lighter, and faster bullet in a lever gun. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get and love the idea of managing to fit Spitzer bullets in a lever gun. It's more the idea of taking a firearm design that's optimized for closer range work, and chambering it in a cartridge that's optimized for longer range work. The lever action design is inherently inferior to a bolt action for precision work - and that's fine. A bolt action is inherently inferior for close range work and speed. What I'd love to see is a lever gun chambered in 300blk with a 16in barrel and enough muzzle left after the front sight for threading. It'd let you have a lightweight, low-recoiling, quick handling and shooting rifle that'd do great on medium size game out to a couple hundred yards - while still being 50 state legal. But if you live in a non-ban state, or if it's just a partially infringed state, you could thread and suppress it easily. Sticking with bigger calibers, I'd rather see it set up for bigger heavier pointy bullets that still focus on the closer in work that lever actions are good for. For me, I just don't get the point of a smaller, lighter, and faster bullet in a lever gun. |
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Posted: 6/17/2019 2:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get and love the idea of managing to fit Spitzer bullets in a lever gun. It's more the idea of taking a firearm design that's optimized for closer range work, and chambering it in a cartridge that's optimized for longer range work. The lever action design is inherently inferior to a bolt action for precision work - and that's fine. A bolt action is inherently inferior for close range work and speed. What I'd love to see is a lever gun chambered in 300blk with a 16in barrel and enough muzzle left after the front sight for threading. It'd let you have a lightweight, low-recoiling, quick handling and shooting rifle that'd do great on medium size game out to a couple hundred yards - while still being 50 state legal. But if you live in a non-ban state, or if it's just a partially infringed state, you could thread and suppress it easily. Sticking with bigger calibers, I'd rather see it set up for bigger heavier pointy bullets that still focus on the closer in work that lever actions are good for. For me, I just don't get the point of a smaller, lighter, and faster bullet in a lever gun. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:48:19 PM EDT
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I got some decent gunsight video footage this time with the Athlon Optics scope which btw, is a pretty sweet piece of glass.
 Athlon Optics Midas HMR 2.5-15×50 AHMR MOA 1st Look |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 2:28:00 PM EDT
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Meh, I'd be happy with a 1895 in 30-06, .303, 30-40 Krag, 7.92x57 or 7.62x54R- any of those will easily do 400yrds.
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Posted: 12/3/2019 10:44:35 PM EDT
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38-55 Marlin Cowboy with tang ladder sight, Hand cast lead slugs and Unique or Universal rings steel all day at 500yrds you do need to wait on it awhile though |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:51:08 AM EDT
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 Marlin 45-70 Guide gun at the mile Granted it's hard to hit something at that range but I love the long wait before the dust cloud. |
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