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Posted: 12/22/2018 12:23:39 PM EDT
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Honestly you can't build a Form 1 rimfire suppressor for anywhere near this. 7075 Al tubing isn't available in small quantities and substituting threaded 2024 Al solvent trap tube and mount and front cap is a little more than $129. Add in engraving and stainless internals and the hassle of drilling and clipping after your stamp is approved and it's a no brainer for someone looking to save money. Agree the E2 is a better value even at $230.
This looks better than a lot of other budget .22 suppressors. I'm surprised I haven't heard any reviews. TM makes some nice 80% lowers. |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 3:02:21 PM EDT
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Honestly you can't build a Form 1 rimfire suppressor for anywhere near this. 7075 Al tubing isn't available in small quantities and substituting threaded 2024 Al solvent trap tube and mount and front cap is a little more than $129. Add in engraving and stainless internals and the hassle of drilling and clipping after your stamp is approved and it's a no brainer for someone looking to save money. Agree the E2 is a better value even at $230. This looks better than a lot of other budget .22 suppressors. I'm surprised I haven't heard any reviews. TM makes some nice 80% lowers. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:42:07 PM EDT
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Nothing about a warranty anywhere on the site. Looks similar to a Element 2. Link to site Also I think we all agree that the $85 extra for a real Element 2 would be a no brainer.  Attached FileBut who has Element 2's for $215? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:45:48 PM EDT
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Agreed. According to the specs it should be an excellent little can But who has Element 2's for $215? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gun pro deals did have them for $214 in the summer. I'm expecting to see prices like that again when aac dumps the final batch of E2s here soon. The AAC Kevin/Ethan cans really seems to last the test of time |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:09:12 PM EDT
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I'm tempted to pick one up and park it. I've got several hosts and I would like to have a can for each.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:15:53 PM EDT
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Hoping to get one in that price range in the final release. The AAC Kevin/Ethan cans really seems to last the test of time |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:26:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thing about that is, Kevin never designed a silencer a day in his life, and when Ethan was at AAC he only worked on the Honey Badger and MGSD projects. But Mike Smith's and Hunter's cans really do seem to last the rest of time.  Attached FileAnd I don't really have an immediate need for one but I'm looking to pick up one of the E2's for a bargain when they show up |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:28:26 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421675/17685125-A782-4E7C-B542-7768135ADC52_png-783207.JPG And I don't really have an immediate need for one but I'm looking to pick up one of the E2's for a bargain when they show up |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:36:00 PM EDT
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Tactical Machining is local to me. Unfortunately, I don’t have any experience with their (one and only) can offering, but their other products are good to go. The owner is former LEO and treats us current LEO very good. I’ve been meaning to stop in and pick up one of those cans.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 11:14:05 PM EDT
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What is the normal charge for a dealer to make this transfer?
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Posted: 12/23/2018 11:18:52 PM EDT
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What is the normal charge for a dealer to make this transfer? $20-$100 |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 11:25:25 PM EDT
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What is the normal charge for a dealer to make this transfer? |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 3:55:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thing about that is, Kevin never designed a silencer a day in his life, and when Ethan was at AAC he only worked on the Honey Badger and MGSD projects. But Mike Smith’s and Hunter’s cans really do seem to last the test of time. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:36:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you aren’t a fan of KB but I really don’t care if the designs are personally his or not. It’s very clear wherever he’s gone that he’s surrounded himself with people who make good products. I don’t think he’s afraid to point that out either. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 9:31:32 AM EDT
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I guess business owners or managers don’t serve any credit unless they designed, engineered, or built the product themselves.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:13:59 PM EDT
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I guess business owners or managers don’t serve any credit unless they designed, engineered, or built the product themselves. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 2:55:27 PM EDT
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I would say the credit for a good design should go to the engineers, not the managers or owners. The managers can take credit for good sales and marketing, but any accolades for the design belong to the engineer. Give that engineer a budget and you'll have a vastly different product than if he has no limits. If sales/marketing ran the silencer business we would have cans dying after 1,000 rounds, and TV ads for SiCo during the Super Bowl. If engineers ran the silencer business the can would last forever, weigh 5oz, and include a built in sound meter......and cost around $10k apiece. That's why management is management, being able to make a profit from a good design. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 3:11:12 PM EDT
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No, they all share in the success or failure of the end product.....but the buck stops at the company owner/president/CEO. Give that engineer a budget and you'll have a vastly different product than if he has no limits. If sales/marketing ran the silencer business we would have cans dying after 1,000 rounds, and TV ads for SiCo during the Super Bowl. If engineers ran the silencer business the can would last forever, weigh 5oz, and include a built in sound meter......and cost around $10k apiece. That's why management is management, being able to make a profit from a good design. Steve Jobs didn’t make apple great because he was building iPhones and iPads. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 5:49:34 PM EDT
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I guess business owners or managers don’t serve any credit unless they designed, engineered, or built the product themselves. It’s okay to say that Ethan worked on the Honey Badger and MGSD. It’s not okay to tell people that Kevin and Ethan designed silencers at AAC that they never had a hand in design-wise. It’s okay to say that Kevin was the product manager and marketing guy at AAC and that he had some input on certain visual aspects of some stuff. It’s not okay for him to tell people he literally designed stuff like the Titan, Tirant, Prodigy, QD mounts, SR5, etc all by himself. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 10:22:23 PM EDT
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This thread sure went off track....
I have a couple of TM lowers and they've been great to work with in the past (local to me). I'd love to learn something about these suppressors as I'm in the market for my recently purchased .22 host. Be great to hear a comparison with some of the better known suppressors. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 11:03:38 PM EDT
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This thread sure went off track.... I have a couple of TM lowers and they've been great to work with in the past (local to me). I'd love to learn something about these suppressors as I'm in the market for my recently purchased .22 host. Be great to hear a comparison with some of the better known suppressors. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 11:27:46 PM EDT
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Hell for the price tempted to order one of these sight unseen/heard myself just to have another rimfire can on hand. I'll wait and see if that good Element deal ever materializes first though.
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Posted: 1/18/2019 11:12:01 PM EDT
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Just an update, I made it over to Tactical Machining a couple weeks ago and paid for one of these. I’m not the expert authority on suppressors, but the can appeared well made and comes packaged in a sturdy cardboard box with an included takedown tool. Hoping the shutdown comes to a resolution soon so the Form 4 can get rolling.
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Posted: 1/18/2019 11:28:11 PM EDT
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Just an update, I made it over to Tactical Machining a couple weeks ago and paid for one of these. I’m not the expert authority on suppressors, but the can appeared well made and comes packaged in a sturdy cardboard box with an included takedown tool. Hoping the shutdown comes to a resolution soon so the Form 4 can get rolling. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 5:05:09 PM EDT
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Cool. You get to hear it demonstrated? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just an update, I made it over to Tactical Machining a couple weeks ago and paid for one of these. I’m not the expert authority on suppressors, but the can appeared well made and comes packaged in a sturdy cardboard box with an included takedown tool. Hoping the shutdown comes to a resolution soon so the Form 4 can get rolling. 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 9:40:34 PM EDT
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Dang wish the guy would do a video of him shooting the thing against a E2. No shame in copying a great design if you own it that your are copying it.
Did he say anything about warranty and caliber ratings? |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:17:22 AM EDT
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I must have missed it, Anyone see anything about sound reduction levels?
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