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Posted: 4/26/2021 6:32:38 PM EDT
Dead Air teased a dedicated 5.56 can on Instagram last week, so what do you think / hope we'll see on it?
My only predictions:
>tubeless in the style of Nomad, YHM Turbo, etc.
>I'd be shocked and maybe a little hurt and angry if they released a totally new mounting system
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 7:06:15 PM EDT
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Xeno
Twice the price of a turbo
1.375 threads
Great flash reduction
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 7:27:12 PM EDT
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Dead Air teased a dedicated 5.56 can on Instagram last week, so what do you think / hope we'll see on it?
My only predictions:
>tubeless in the style of Nomad, YHM Turbo, etc.
>I'd be shocked and maybe a little hurt and angry if they released a totally new mounting system
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Probably a new 556 mount that can take 30 call cans, but the 556 can won't fit in the 30 call mounts.  Like how surefire does theirs.
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 7:48:43 PM EDT
[#3]
$700
1.65 diameter tube
Replaceable front cap
Industry standard rear
6” long
12 oz
Full auto rated
No full size muzzle brakes

Basically M42K 2.0 DA style.

But I’m sure I’m wrong
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 7:56:32 PM EDT
[#4]
I suspect it will be basically Sandman K size and construction with 5.56 sized baffle stack and the already existing 5.56 endcap.

They shall call it the Dead Air "Stoner" in honor of Eugene and the .223 cartridge he helped make famous. When they released the Noveske HEAT SBR and Sandman K combo this was a missed opportunity for sure. Even better would be a troll move, fine you all get the 5.56 can you desperately kept asking for but we collab'ed with Noveske again and you have to buy the SBR HEAT combo 2.0 to get it lol.

@Mageever is probably kicking back sipping a cold one laughing at how wrong we all are probably
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 8:11:25 PM EDT
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delete
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 8:35:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Flash hider / e brake end cap
replaceable stellite blast baffle integrates into muzzle device
hybrid Ti / Stainless baffle stack
1.556 diameter
6.556 inch length
11.556 oz

135db at the muzzle
135db at the ear
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 9:07:45 PM EDT
[#7]
But will it be quieter than a OSS 556?
Link Posted: 4/26/2021 9:12:43 PM EDT
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Nobody cares about Db on 556
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 12:08:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2021 1:20:11 AM EDT
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Dammit!  Who started this? EP4T? That you?  Now you've done it.  No matter what, somebody's gonna say something way cooler that we're releasing and everyone will be disappointed.

Todd Magee
Dead Air Engineering
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 2:22:46 AM EDT
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Dammit!  Who started this? EP4T? That you?  Now you've done it.  No matter what, somebody's gonna say something way cooler that we're releasing and everyone will be disappointed.

Todd Magee
Dead Air Engineering
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No way that happens. Not here!

I heard it was 56db at the ear.
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 6:15:27 AM EDT
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Dammit!  Who started this? EP4T? That you?  Now you've done it.  No matter what, somebody's gonna say something way cooler that we're releasing and everyone will be disappointed.

Todd Magee
Dead Air Engineering
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129 dB at ear and muzzle with M855 on 10.3" bbl, 1.5" diameter, 4" length, 5 oz including mount, full auto rated, can neither be created nor destroyed, widely considered a singularity by physicists, MSRP = $300
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 8:14:21 AM EDT
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129 dB at ear and muzzle with M855 on 10.3" bbl, 1.5" diameter, 4" length, 5 oz including mount, full auto rated, can neither be created nor destroyed, widely considered a singularity by physicists, MSRP = $300
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Dammit!  Who started this? EP4T? That you?  Now you've done it.  No matter what, somebody's gonna say something way cooler that we're releasing and everyone will be disappointed.

Todd Magee
Dead Air Engineering


129 dB at ear and muzzle with M855 on 10.3" bbl, 1.5" diameter, 4" length, 5 oz including mount, full auto rated, can neither be created nor destroyed, widely considered a singularity by physicists, MSRP = $300

All this above. I got dibs on SN:1
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 8:24:38 AM EDT
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I predict a single titanium baffle.
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 9:23:03 AM EDT
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Simple enough.  Machine the first baffle of an Odessa in Ti.  Stamp it .223, sell it for $556 and call it a day




Link Posted: 4/27/2021 12:09:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Do you think it will be any more effective than a Nomad-L?
Link Posted: 4/27/2021 12:18:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2021 1:15:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Hopefully it comes with a flash hider.
Link Posted: 4/29/2021 7:46:14 AM EDT
[#19]
The size of an XM177E2 moderator, 130db at the ear?
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 10:18:33 AM EDT
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Does anyone have a possible release date on these? Im in the market for a new can and this could be very promising but the wait...
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 4:30:37 PM EDT
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After the Biden Bucks dropped, I went back and forth on waiting for DA's dedicated 5.56 or just getting a Turbo K in the meantime since I didn't really want a spendy can like a CGS or SF or Sandman that my heart wasn't set on. Ended up getting a Turbo K since they're fairly cheap. Hoping the DA 5.56 is out soon, anxious to see how they did.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:20:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2021 1:44:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Do we have any idea on when this will be released?
Link Posted: 5/8/2021 12:19:01 PM EDT
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I am thinking around June/July time frame. Mike Pappas on Instagram said around end of quarter two start of quarter 3 for its release.
Link Posted: 5/8/2021 11:25:18 PM EDT
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I speculate that it will be a great can but DA will have some weird QC issues periodically due to the mass quantity produced, and there will be a bunch of complaining about it.  I further speculate that their customer service will take care of anyone affected, but for some reason all of this will be a surprise to many.

Sarcasm aside, I hope Dead Air is able to produce something interesting and innovative in the 5.56 realm, and that they sell a ton of product.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 10:15:36 AM EDT
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I’m hoping they produce something like the short-lived RMS2 Hopaii, tubeless, with a 6.5 bore for good gas flow on a 5.56 and the ability to use on a Grendel or Creedmoor.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 11:00:15 AM EDT
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You could have that today with a 4 baffle custom Rex.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 11:16:32 AM EDT
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I don't get the appeal of a dedicated 5.56 can.

It's going to be loud, and sure it can be shorter and lighter than full size 30 cal can.  But what does it do that a 30 cal K can doesn't?
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 11:20:32 AM EDT
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I don't get the appeal of a dedicated 5.56 can.

It's going to be loud, and sure it can be shorter and lighter than full size 30 cal can.  But what does it do that a 30 cal K can doesn't?
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I have a gemtech trek2. It’s shorter and quieter then my sandman S or omega 30.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 12:36:50 PM EDT
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That didn't turn out to really be usable for 6.5.  The front cap bore on mine is at .295" and the internal baffles could be smaller but I'm not sure.  Knowing that, it could be usable for 6mm max.  Even for 6mm I'd only do it with direct thread or with a mount that has been checked for precise alignment.  

Link Posted: 5/9/2021 1:04:01 PM EDT
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I’m sure you could tune the Nomad baffles into a nice 1.5 x 6” format that would do nicely on 6.5 and below.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 2:22:44 PM EDT
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I have a gemtech trek2. It’s shorter and quieter then my sandman S or omega 30.
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Same ammo, same host?
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 3:13:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2021 4:03:33 PM EDT
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I’m sure you could tune the Nomad baffles into a nice 1.5 x 6” format that would do nicely on 6.5 and below.
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I like where you're going with that.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 5:50:28 PM EDT
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Same ammo, same host?
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I have a gemtech trek2. It’s shorter and quieter then my sandman S or omega 30.



Same ammo, same host?

Yes
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 7:09:49 PM EDT
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I don't get the appeal of a dedicated 5.56 can.

It's going to be loud, and sure it can be shorter and lighter than full size 30 cal can.  But what does it do that a 30 cal K can doesn't?
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what if it they somehow figure out how to make it not loud?

there has to be a reason they are spending time and money on this project.
Link Posted: 5/9/2021 7:11:44 PM EDT
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I don't get the appeal of a dedicated 5.56 can.

It's going to be loud, and sure it can be shorter and lighter than full size 30 cal can.  But what does it do that a 30 cal K can doesn't?
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Mitigate flash. That could matter quite a lot for some people.
Link Posted: 5/12/2021 3:15:56 PM EDT
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A 5.56/6.5 can would be appealing.  Got to keep it short though, something between the Sandman K and S.
Link Posted: 5/14/2021 1:15:51 PM EDT
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Yea, me too.
Link Posted: 6/5/2021 9:25:47 AM EDT
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Hoping we hear something on this soon. Running all DA mounts but am looking for a mid size 556 can. Temptation of an RC2 is getting harder to overcome.
Link Posted: 6/6/2021 2:34:19 AM EDT
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Here I just took delivery of  Sandman S, & now they're gonna switch things up.
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 5:36:47 PM EDT
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New speculation: Dead Air teased two stylized pictures of lions hunting along with cryptic quotes on their Instagram account last week and again this morning. I'd be willing to bet this is all leading up to revealing their new 5.56 can. Anyone care to hazard a guess at what the quotes and imagery mean?

The first quote was: "When we perceive danger or a threat, we need to act instantaneously, instinct kicks in. Instinct is the master of self-preservation. It is primal." (from Zamm Zamudio's book "Intuition" although they didn't attribute the quote in their original post)

The second quote was: "Problem solving is hunting. It is a savage pleasure and we are born with it." (from Thomas Harris, the author of Silence of the Lambs, Red Dragon, etc.)

So, there's a theme obviously about intuition and instinct, the pictures of lions hunting will probably illustrate the branding concept rather than showing something literal like the Dead Air Water Buffalo (lmao)

Therefore, my guess is it will be called the Dead Air Intuition 5.56
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 5:57:37 PM EDT
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New speculation: Dead Air teased two stylized pictures of lions hunting along with cryptic quotes on their Instagram account last week and again this morning. I'd be willing to bet this is all leading up to revealing their new 5.56 can. Anyone care to hazard a guess at what the quotes and imagery mean?

The first quote was: "When we perceive danger or a threat, we need to act instantaneously, instinct kicks in. Instinct is the master of self-preservation. It is primal." (from Zamm Zamudio's book "Intuition" although they didn't attribute the quote in their original post)

The second quote was: "Problem solving is hunting. It is a savage pleasure and we are born with it." (from Thomas Harris, the author of Silence of the Lambs, Red Dragon, etc.)

So, there's a theme obviously about intuition and instinct, the pictures of lions hunting will probably illustrate the branding concept rather than showing something literal like the Dead Air Water Buffalo (lmao)

Therefore, my guess is it will be called the Dead Air Intuition 5.56
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Sounds like they’re teasing a hunting can
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 6:00:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/7/2021 6:12:00 PM EDT
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Let me throw the curve ball: Africa, hunting, dangerous game... it's obviously the large bore can*!  

*I have no idea what they are releasing.
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Lol
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 6:26:02 PM EDT
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Let me throw the curve ball: Africa, hunting, dangerous game... it's obviously the large bore can*!  

*I have no idea what they are releasing.
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Sounds like they are getting ready to copy Suppressor Safari Boy.  Can’t wait to listen to the podcast shitflinging.  (Sarcasm....I can’t stand social media buzz marketing bullshit).
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 7:05:32 PM EDT
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In for the 10th? .30 cal DA can
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 8:15:40 PM EDT
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I like the theme they've been using with the horror movie/comic book type of  characters/creatures (Mask, Ghost, Sandman, Wolfman, etc.).  Hope they continue with that.
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 10:10:14 PM EDT
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I like the theme they've been using with the horror movie/comic book type of  characters/creatures (Mask, Ghost, Sandman, Wolfman, etc.).  Hope they continue with that.
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Twotwentythreeman?
Link Posted: 6/7/2021 11:20:00 PM EDT
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Twotwentythreeman?
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Twotwentythreeman?





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