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12/11/2018 1:58:31 AM
Posted: 10/1/2018 9:51:31 PM EST
Is Vltor not making them anymore? If not, why?

Ive seen some posts saying they have ones made by “SWD.” Who is that?
Link Posted: 10/1/2018 10:51:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2018 10:52:21 PM EST by joe_sun]
From what I gathered whatever they manufacture us receivers out of whether it's a billet or what, there was a big batch that was out of spec. Steyr had to send over receiver castings so that they could be milled out and rifles assembeld. Those markings mean it is an Austrian receiver casting.
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 8:04:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By joe_sun:
From what I gathered whatever they manufacture us receivers out of whether it's a billet or what, there was a big batch that was out of spec. Steyr had to send over receiver castings so that they could be milled out and rifles assembeld. Those markings mean it is an Austrian receiver casting.
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You are correct.

The receivers are marked SWD, they make the factory Steyr AUG castings for Steyr Austria.

VLTOR still machines the unfinished receivers.

Link Posted: 10/3/2018 9:22:15 AM EST
Where is the SWD marking? Gonna go check my rifles to see if I got one
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 10:15:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By vellnueve:
Where is the SWD marking? Gonna go check my rifles to see if I got one
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Its located on the bottom side of the receiver in the middle. I have a pic of mine in this post.
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 11:23:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aphex:
Its located on the bottom side of the receiver in the middle. I have a pic of mine in this post.
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And if you compare the typical cast receiver made in Canada for Steyr to the European SWD version you'll notice a large difference in how they compare structurally before and after machining.

Link Posted: 10/3/2018 11:44:39 AM EST
I'm sorta hoping I get my funds in order soon, think it'd be nifty to have one of these SWD receiver AUGs.
Link Posted: 10/3/2018 12:56:38 PM EST
Are the end results any different? One stronger the other? Different weights?
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 9:27:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:

And if you compare the typical cast receiver made in Canada for Steyr to the European SWD version you'll notice a large difference in how they compare structurally before and after machining.

https://i.imgur.com/JLNC3oU.jpg
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That appears to be a forging. Can you give more details about Canadian AUG receivers? I wasn’t aware Steyr had a presence in Canada. The AUG is not available for civilian purchase in Canada.
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 10:33:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JoshNC:
That appears to be a forging. Can you give more details about Canadian AUG receivers? I wasn’t aware Steyr had a presence in Canada. The AUG is not available for civilian purchase in Canada.
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Originally Posted By JoshNC:
Originally Posted By maleante:
And if you compare the typical cast receiver made in Canada for Steyr to the European SWD version you'll notice a large difference in how they compare structurally before and after machining.

https://i.imgur.com/JLNC3oU.jpg
That appears to be a forging. Can you give more details about Canadian AUG receivers? I wasn’t aware Steyr had a presence in Canada. The AUG is not available for civilian purchase in Canada.
Eh, maybe it's a forging, don't know. I was told they are castings.

The first ~10,000+ "0%" castings originated from Canada since the Sabre Defence era. I assume subsequent castings either came from the same Canadian source as a smaller lot or from a new source that eventually didn't meet their specifications - hence the recent rejection of a large lot and the sourcing of SWD castings from Europe to hold over production.
Link Posted: 10/6/2018 6:26:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:

Eh, maybe it's a forging, don't know. I was told they are castings.

The first ~10,000+ "0%" castings originated from Canada since the Sabre Defence era. I assume subsequent castings either came from the same Canadian source as a smaller lot or from a new source that eventually didn't meet their specifications - hence the recent rejection of a large lot and the sourcing of SWD castings from Europe to hold over production.
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Definitely looks like a forging. It has the forging seam which is the tell.

Thanks for the back story re: Canada. I didn’t know that.
Link Posted: 10/7/2018 10:37:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:

And if you compare the typical cast receiver made in Canada for Steyr to the European SWD version you'll notice a large difference in how they compare structurally before and after machining.

https://i.imgur.com/JLNC3oU.jpg
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As in the European SWD ones being better?
Link Posted: 10/7/2018 12:49:13 PM EST
It's not to say one is better than the other, just that there are major differences between the two. I think it's neat because of what it is, but there probably isn't any extra value to it right now apart from an AUG collection.

If you want an AUG, buy an AUG. If you end up with this type receiver then you have something the majority doesn't.
Link Posted: 10/7/2018 2:34:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:
It's not to say one is better than the other, just that there are major differences between the two. I think it's neat because of what it is, but there probably isn't any extra value to it right now apart from an AUG collection.

If you want an AUG, buy an AUG. If you end up with this type receiver then you have something the majority doesn't.
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but what are the differences?
Link Posted: 10/7/2018 3:47:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mcantu:

but what are the differences?
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It's super special and will make you a Teutonic operator
Link Posted: 10/7/2018 5:12:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mcantu:

but what are the differences?
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One is pretty much entirely machined to reach the final product, the other is cast to have less material as a "0%" block of aluminum.





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Link Posted: 10/7/2018 6:02:43 PM EST
In Austria they are probably all drooling over our billet receivers
Link Posted: 10/8/2018 6:48:50 AM EST
I like the machined billet mo better.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 1:25:17 AM EST
Interesting thread...I don't believe my AUG receiver has any markings on the bottom whatsoever
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 2:06:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Sakic:
Interesting thread...I don't believe my AUG receiver has any markings on the bottom whatsoever
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Mine too. Sabre leftover? Raytheon contract?
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 4:01:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:

Mine too. Sabre leftover? Raytheon contract?
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You have a newer Vltor receiver. ATF variance lets it be so.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 9:38:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:

Mine too. Sabre leftover? Raytheon contract?
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Was Raytheon contracted by Steyr at some point?
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:09:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:
You have a newer Vltor receiver. ATF variance lets it be so.
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Originally Posted By maleante:
Originally Posted By FADALdude:

Mine too. Sabre leftover? Raytheon contract?
You have a newer Vltor receiver. ATF variance lets it be so.
Sweet, thanks mal

I *thought* I heard Raytheon was doing some machining. No facts, just conjecture.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 1:50:00 PM EST
Abrams bought Vltor, so technically Abrams is doing the machining. I wouldn't be surprised if Vltor is just a brand now and Abrams machines everything.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 9:18:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:
Abrams bought Vltor, so technically Abrams is doing the machining. I wouldn't be surprised if Vltor is just a brand now and Abrams machines everything.
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I guess the Bren 10 will be here any day now then...
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