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Posted: 4/3/2020 11:19:41 AM EDT
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Not eForm, so this will be significantly slower to process and return.
ETA: Website description for the promo is now gone. Not sure if paper or e-file after all. |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 11:36:51 AM EDT
[#2]
The picture on the website showed eForm.
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Posted: 4/3/2020 12:45:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Those sure went quick. I tried to get in but the site kept crashing.
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Posted: 4/3/2020 1:08:05 PM EDT
[#4]
I tried getting in but I was too slow.
They pulled $40k in 2 hrs! I work overseas and am rarely home, so this was the best option for me. I sent them an email pleading for another run, lol. The email mentioned some extra steps that keep the process from being as streamlined as they prefer for a finished product. Did anyone here get in before the deadline that can elaborate on what those extra steps were or otherwise explain what the process was like? |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 4:51:41 PM EDT
[#5]
I got in for two stamps. After purchase I got an email directing me to submit the weapon info for the stamps. So far so good. Not sure what the “extra steps” are that they are referring to.
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Posted: 4/6/2020 12:58:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not eForm, so this will be significantly slower to process and return. ETA: Website description for the promo is now gone. Not sure if paper or e-file after all. Called SilencerShop, was told it is eFile Form1. |
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Posted: 4/6/2020 1:03:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried getting in but I was too slow. They pulled $40k in 2 hrs! I work overseas and am rarely home, so this was the best option for me. I sent them an email pleading for another run, lol. The email mentioned some extra steps that keep the process from being as streamlined as they prefer for a finished product. Did anyone here get in before the deadline that can elaborate on what those extra steps were or otherwise explain what the process was like? Not everyone with a Silencershop account has their personal information on file. They need to: Add or Confirm the personal information. Add or Update Bimetrics, for example, the picture of the responsible person has to be taken within a year. I have a trust on file with SS, but that's for pre-41F. I'm filing this one with a separate trust. |
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Posted: 4/6/2020 9:14:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Eform is not hard to do.
Why pay Silencershop to do this? I was going to go this route originally but is was "out od stock" so I just did it myself. No problems. 2 SBS and 1 SBR later and now I don't see the point of it all. 30 minutes of you time and 30 days later you get yo stamp. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:53:04 PM EDT
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I guess it's easier to have them send your prints in for you, but I'm still not sure how you run your efile account (for getting the form1 to print) through Silencershop.
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Posted: 4/7/2020 2:18:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eform is not hard to do. Why pay Silencershop to do this? I was going to go this route originally but is was "out od stock" so I just did it myself. No problems. 2 SBS and 1 SBR later and now I don't see the point of it all. 30 minutes of you time and 30 days later you get yo stamp. Depends on how well the eForms site works for you. For whatever reason, I always encounter a bunch of annoying bugs, including one that made my name disappear from the list of RPs after I hit submit. That error probably cost me a couple hours of my time to fix and delayed my approval a week or two given the back and forth with my examiner. In the future I'll likely still do it myself, but people are obviously willing to pay extra for the ease of doing this through a customer-oriented, streamlined, technologically-modern process. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 10:58:20 PM EDT
[#11]
I have also bought SS Single Shot trust.
Filled out some new information on the lower receiver on Monday, uploaded a current passport photo. SS already has my finger print on file. SBR eFile Form1 submitted today. It's totally worth the 35 bucks, all done through few emails. Silencer Shop created a new efile account, separate from the one already have. Edit: Also found out today my engraver was deemed non-essential, no word when they will be back running. |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 12:31:37 AM EDT
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Already sold out and I was on their notify list.
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Posted: 4/9/2020 7:54:37 PM EDT
[#13]
I just completed my 2 efile Form 1s through Silencer Shop. I’m curious to see how long it takes
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Posted: 4/17/2020 12:56:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The email mentioned some extra steps that keep the process from being as streamlined as they prefer for a finished product. Did anyone here get in before the deadline that can elaborate on what those extra steps were or otherwise explain what the process was like? Quote HistoryQuoted: The email mentioned some extra steps that keep the process from being as streamlined as they prefer for a finished product. Did anyone here get in before the deadline that can elaborate on what those extra steps were or otherwise explain what the process was like? Quoted: I guess it's easier to have them send your prints in for you, but I'm still not sure how you run your efile account (for getting the form1 to print) through Silencershop. You don't give SS your efile account. They create one for you and send you the login details. I was able to pick up 2 of these during the 1000 release. Just got done submitting them through the efile site. They ask you some simple info like the make, model, caliber, and serial of the fire arm. They then use your info on hand, fingerprints, and passport photo to generate all the documents on the ATF website. Below video shows the only step necessary for you to file this Form 1 on the shitty ATF website. Stupid easy and well worth the $40 for me and the limited free time I have. I fill out enough government bullshit in my day job through shitty Oracle type systems that never work right. I will pay a small premium to not deal with this crap in my free time.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't give SS your efile account. They create one for you and send you the login details. I was able to pick up 2 of these during the 1000 release. Just got done submitting them through the efile site. They ask you some simple info like the make, model, caliber, and serial of the fire arm. They then use your info on hand, fingerprints, and passport photo to generate all the documents on the ATF website. Below video shows the only step necessary for you to file this Form 1 on the shitty ATF website. Stupid easy and well worth the $40 for me and the limited free time I have. I fill out enough government bullshit in my day job through shitty Oracle type systems that never work right. I will pay a small premium to not deal with this crap in my free time.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1pnCVjeMI4Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The email mentioned some extra steps that keep the process from being as streamlined as they prefer for a finished product. Did anyone here get in before the deadline that can elaborate on what those extra steps were or otherwise explain what the process was like? Quoted: I guess it's easier to have them send your prints in for you, but I'm still not sure how you run your efile account (for getting the form1 to print) through Silencershop. You don't give SS your efile account. They create one for you and send you the login details. I was able to pick up 2 of these during the 1000 release. Just got done submitting them through the efile site. They ask you some simple info like the make, model, caliber, and serial of the fire arm. They then use your info on hand, fingerprints, and passport photo to generate all the documents on the ATF website. Below video shows the only step necessary for you to file this Form 1 on the shitty ATF website. Stupid easy and well worth the $40 for me and the limited free time I have. I fill out enough government bullshit in my day job through shitty Oracle type systems that never work right. I will pay a small premium to not deal with this crap in my free time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1pnCVjeMI4Thanks! Hopefully I can get on the next go round |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:26:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Already sold out and I was on their notify list. So far the only upside for me of working from home is dropping what I was doing and putting in for two stamps. 
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Posted: 5/9/2020 7:46:42 PM EDT
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Anyone in here that was part of this SS 1000 get an approval yet? I submit on the 16th and so far nothing. I should be getting close. Just seeing if these are going through or if the SS system with EForms May have a delay like it did last year
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Posted: 5/9/2020 8:57:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Mine was submitted on 4/3 for a SBR but went pending for about a week and no approval yet.
Edit: single shot trust. This past week they threw up another 500. Got one of them as well. Eventually I’ll make a suppressor for 350 Legend and below. |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:03:38 PM EDT
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submitted 4/7, singleshot trust, not approved yet.
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Posted: 6/8/2020 3:57:46 PM EDT
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Anyone get an approval yet?
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Posted: 6/8/2020 4:25:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone get an approval yet? Not I. Seems Form 1s are pushing 2 months or so. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Impatient-with-Silencer-Shop-s-Form-1-Bad-idea-to-do-my-own-e-file-/17-511539/&page=1&anc=5317304#i5317304 |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 8:24:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone get an approval yet? I was wondering the same thing.Nothing for me. Today is two months for me since I completed my eForm. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 9:29:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Disappointing revived thread title is disappointing.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 9:49:16 AM EDT
[#24]
I thought I was the only one held up with my SS Form 1 service. I’m now 63 days into my application.
So no one you know has gotten their Form 1 stamp back through SS? . |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:59:37 AM EDT
[#25]
I put mine in on April 3rd and a friend of mine did on April 7th? And nothing.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 2:47:41 PM EDT
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Now multiple threads on this site and Reddit about this and Silencer Shop isn't saying anything. May be nothing but makes me nervous.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 3:11:49 PM EDT
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Y'all need to be a little more grateful silencer shop is doing this for us. I wrote my control numbers down when I did the submission so I could call the atf if need be. I called and mine was submitted by me on April the 7th and the ATF said they got my prints on the 20th, so it looks like it has more to do with the ATF.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 3:41:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now multiple threads on this site and Reddit about this and Silencer Shop isn't saying anything. May be nothing but makes me nervous. Once it got input into the eforms system, it’s in the ATF’s hands. Unless the ATF notified Silencer Shop there was a problem with their submissions, they may not have any more information other than just to wait. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 4:58:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Maybe they do and I just don't know it but I wish they sold Single Shot Trusts you can use for your own submissions.
I don't mind filling everything out I just like being able to use the Single Shot. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 5:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they do and I just don't know it but I wish they sold Single Shot Trusts you can use for your own submissions. I don't mind filling everything out I just like being able to use the Single Shot. Don’t you get a copy of the trust when they file? Pick a new name, find & replace, submit. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 6:53:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t you get a copy of the trust when they file? Pick a new name, find & replace, submit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe they do and I just don't know it but I wish they sold Single Shot Trusts you can use for your own submissions. I don't mind filling everything out I just like being able to use the Single Shot. Don’t you get a copy of the trust when they file? Pick a new name, find & replace, submit. And who do you pay when you do that? The single shot trusts aren’t free. I’m not sure taking an existing trust and making your own new trust by just changing the name makes it a legal trust. Also, it has to be registered somewhere. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 2:12:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Why aren't any of these being approved?
People from the first batch are now at 3x the average wait without approval. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 6:06:38 PM EDT
[#33]
I can’t help but think the ATF is giving silencer shop customers a big FU.
I have another SS form 1 sitting in my account and I’m thinking twice about using it. |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 9:24:04 AM EDT
[#34]
Just got off the phone with the ATF.
They said the current F1 wait time is 60 days after them getting your fingerprints. They said I’m only 2 days over that.... ????? |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 9:34:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got off the phone with the ATF. They said the current F1 wait time is 60 days after them getting your fingerprints. They said I’m only 2 days over that.... ????? Well that explains why my eform 1 is taking so long. (Filed 5/11, prints received 5/18.) |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 10:10:37 AM EDT
[#36]
I filed through this, but using an Old shotgun means I had to do some running around with SS to prove the model number and stuff. I did, and it looks like my 4/6 order was "officially" submitted with prints on 4/25. I called ATF at about the 35 day mark and was told it's "Pending".
I'm coming up on 60 days but I imagine with this big rush of people being home submitting more, the ATF people working form home, and their general "we don't give a shit about doing this quickly" that it will still be a bit. If I had money and time I would go to law school and just sue the shit out of the NFA all the time for funsies, but I don't. |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 12:56:39 PM EDT
[#37]
I've been waiting since 4/7 submission and no approval yet, and I got in on this batch.
It's really soured me on the Silencer Shop eF1 process. I see tons of others in eF1 threads posting that they have received approval in <30 days, and I'm here at >60 days with nothing to show for it. This is far from my first tax stamp, but it's still very frustrating to see. I even wrote into Silencer Shop's support and got confirmation that these were eF1s not paper F1s mailed in. |
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Posted: 6/23/2020 3:52:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Yep, I have 2 of these submit from the first batch of 1000. Submit on 4/16 and still waiting. Called ATF and they confirmed both are received and pending but not in FBI background check.
They cant give any information over the phone beyond "pending" or "approved". I know others always recommend the "Ask The Experts" tab to get in touch with an examiner. Problem with that for us is that the email field auto populates with the throw-away email the SS used to fill out your application. You can't change this field. So even if you do get a response it goes to an email you can't access.  I reached out to Silencer Shop on the 8th to see if they had any further info. They have nothing:  Last thing I did was email my Congress representatives for my state and asked if there is anything they can do to contact the ATF and get some answers. That was a few days ago and no response yet. |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 12:32:52 PM EDT
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Below are two interesting threads regarding this issue. Looks like someone was able to contact an ATF agent, cancel their SS submissions, and apply the tax and fingerprints to their own new submissions.
Seems risky but it will get you an approval. You would have to do a chargeback to get your $35 back from SS though. I’m not going to bother trying it, I just wish we had some open communication and clarity from Silencer Shop on this. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/gvk5pm/anyone_in_on_the_last_batch_of_silencer_shop_form/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/gzp898/form_1_delay_on_silencershop_jk_armament_mst/ |
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Posted: 6/24/2020 2:24:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Just got off the phone with Silencer Shop for another question and asked if there was any Form 1 update. Answer was no.
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Posted: 6/24/2020 3:32:13 PM EDT
[#41]
I called silencer shop and got the same runaround. Had a 2nd form 1 Service from them sitting In my account and told them I want a refund on it.
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Posted: 6/25/2020 10:19:23 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got off the phone with the ATF. They said the current F1 wait time is 60 days after them getting your fingerprints. They said I’m only 2 days over that.... ????? I've had 2 f1s approved in the past few months. Both under a month from the date I filed the eform to the date I got approval. |
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Posted: 6/26/2020 8:28:10 AM EDT
[#43]
I figured I was OK with the delay. SS makes it easy, they already have my fingerprints, and I had a gift certificate from the first form 1 so that filing this one was free. Annoying to not have it back yet but honestly:
1) nobody I know gets into NFA because it's a fast or fun process 2) this is to cut down a stevens SxS shotgun to like 6". It is so far down on my list of "needs" it's unreal |
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Posted: 7/1/2020 8:33:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Sorry to keep beating this dead horse but has anyone from either of the two sales (1000 or 500) actually gotten their stamp yet without resubmitting?
Edit: 2nd round was 500 |
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Posted: 7/1/2020 11:40:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry to keep beating this dead horse but has anyone from either of the two sales (1000 or 5000) actually gotten their stamp yet without resubmitting? Nothing yet. Prints mailed 4/9. 
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Posted: 7/2/2020 3:13:18 PM EDT
[#46]
There has to be someone know knows *something* on this?
@SilencerShop |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 8:34:42 PM EDT
[#47]
When I called them last week, silencershop “claim” they aren’t getting answers from the ATF either. They “claim” when they do get an answer they will send out a mass email to the form 1 customers.
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Posted: 7/2/2020 8:37:21 PM EDT
[#48]
How long do we stay in limbo before they tell everyone to cancel and refile themselves?
A little communication could go a long way if they are having troubles with the ATF. Instead of everyone focusing their anger at SS I bet a bunch would start contacting their representatives to find out why the ATF is making life difficult. |
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Posted: 7/6/2020 10:24:47 PM EDT
[#49]
The last I heard was on 6/26, after I emailed Silencer Shop:
Good Afternoon, We’ve submitted a formal inquiry to the ATF regarding longer than anticipated wait times, but haven’t received an official response back yet. Once we do, we’ll update you as soon as we know more. Thank you for your patience and trust in us. We're coming off of a holiday weekend, so I'll give them another week or so before I look into the cancel and resubmit route. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 7:54:33 AM EDT
[#50]
Called the ATF yesterday and told asked about my F1 and talked about my concerns. Told them due to going thru SS I have no way to contact “ask the experts”. The very nice person gave me an email to get ahold of someone to correct that issue.
I haven’t heard back yet so when/if I do I’ll put the email here so everyone else can bombard them with requests. |
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