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Posted: 1/19/2022 5:02:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: So does anyone know of maybe a release date for this? I was hoping something would have happened this week, but no such luck. There's no one here, other than me, that would know about release dates, because we haven't talked anything about release dates in an official capacity. We've just released the first production run of the SPEAR. Releases of other variants will all come in due time. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:26:13 PM EDT
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Aug 2nd 2022, will have 6.5 Creedmore and .308 barrels and come in Sig Grey and black.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aug 2nd 2022, will have 6.5 Creedmore and .308 barrels and come in Sig Grey and black. @coregon Checkmate my dude. Looks like this guy knows more than you do. Lol. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:59:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @coregon Checkmate my dude. Looks like this guy knows more than you do. Lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aug 2nd 2022, will have 6.5 Creedmore and .308 barrels and come in Sig Grey and black. @coregon Checkmate my dude. Looks like this guy knows more than you do. Lol. el oh el |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 6:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: el oh el Hopefully you sensed my sarcasm. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully you sensed my sarcasm. Mos def 
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:05:07 AM EDT
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Rumor I heard was February 29th 2022. Confirmed from multiple sources.
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Posted: 1/22/2022 11:47:55 AM EDT
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Will civies be able to remove the muzzle device and put on their own mounts and non-sig suppressors?
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Posted: 1/22/2022 11:08:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will civies be able to remove the muzzle device and put on their own mounts and non-sig suppressors? I was going to reply that "of course we will"... But then I remembered that the Raptor has an 8 inch 308Win/7.62x51 Barrel. So... "I hope so" seems to be a better response.  |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 12:30:19 AM EDT
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Looking at the prototype Raptor video, it looks to be a gas trap set up similar to the 5.56 Rattler and we know that one can’t be removed. I guess we wait and see.
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Posted: 1/23/2022 4:02:39 PM EDT
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With as short and handy as the Raptor is, I think I'm most interested in seeing how well it can be converted to 8.6 Blackout.
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Posted: 1/23/2022 5:03:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Has there been pricing released for the standard models?
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:25:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has there been pricing released for the standard models? Negative and only one member here knows, but he isn’t saying
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative and only one member here knows, but he isn’t saying Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has there been pricing released for the standard models? Negative and only one member here knows, but he isn’t saying  Not yet. The NGSW Limited Edition models havent seen the market yet (awaiting NFA Forms to dealers). The production versions aren't far behind. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not yet. The NGSW Limited Edition models havent seen the market yet (awaiting NFA Forms to dealers). The production versions aren't far behind. Is it safe to say that the civilian Spear (non collector version) and Raptor should be around the same time frame? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has there been pricing released for the standard models? $4299 MSRP but expect street pricing to be lower. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $4299 MSRP but expect street pricing to be lower. And where did you see that? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:39:39 PM EDT
[#19]
That seems pretty lofty if true.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:54:56 PM EDT
[#20]
If you watch the video/ interview by TFB, it will give you a general idea on MSRP. Wasn’t even close to $4299.00.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:13:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you watch the video/ interview by TFB, it will give you a general idea on MSRP. Wasn’t even close to $4299.00. So what was it? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:16:44 PM EDT
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About the price of the rattler plus 20% is what I gathered. It was a good video if you haven’t seen it. I just watched it again and he actually said it would be competitively priced to the MCX line.
https://youtu.be/p6iy1TSolGQ |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:34:08 PM EDT
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Coregon, maybe you could answer this.
Was the Raptor developed at the request of a military unit like the MCX and Rattler? |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:12:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Any confirmed updates on this?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 2:45:49 PM EDT
[#25]
So when will the Raptor be released, any updates on this?
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Posted: 2/28/2022 4:22:01 PM EDT
[#26]
No update. The standard size commercial variant hasn't released. The Raptor won't come until after that.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 6:04:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No update. The standard size commercial variant hasn't released. The Raptor won't come until after that. Thank you Coregon. Still slated for sometime this year? |
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Posted: 3/25/2022 6:27:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Coregon,
Any update that you can pass along? |
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Posted: 3/28/2022 1:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coregon, Any update that you can pass along? No update. |
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Posted: 3/30/2022 12:38:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coregon, Any update that you can pass along? Just chillax and save your $$$. Your gonna need it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2022 12:46:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just chillax and save your $$$. Your gonna need it. I have the money, I just need to get this before my libtard state passes an AWB, which is next on their agenda. Every fricken thing they push to violate our 2A rights passes, even with all the opposition we had this year. |
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Posted: 3/30/2022 8:26:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the money, I just need to get this before my libtard state passes an AWB, which is next on their agenda. Every fricken thing they push to violate our 2A rights passes, even with all the opposition we had this year. Though I understand that, it doesn’t appear that coregon has a history of spilling the beans on product releases before the official press release from Sig (other than some vague details of “somethings coming”, etc.). So asking him twice a month for updates seems a little excessive to me. I’m sure he probably has a decent idea on when they’ll be for sale to the unwashed masses, but he also (again, I assume) likes keeping his job which means not giving out unreleased confidential information to strangers on the internet. |
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Posted: 3/31/2022 9:43:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Though I understand that, it doesn’t appear that coregon has a history of spilling the beans on product releases before the official press release from Sig (other than some vague details of “somethings coming”, etc.). So asking him twice a month for updates seems a little excessive to me. I’m sure he probably has a decent idea on when they’ll be for sale to the unwashed masses, but he also (again, I assume) likes keeping his job which means not giving out unreleased confidential information to strangers on the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have the money, I just need to get this before my libtard state passes an AWB, which is next on their agenda. Every fricken thing they push to violate our 2A rights passes, even with all the opposition we had this year. Though I understand that, it doesn’t appear that coregon has a history of spilling the beans on product releases before the official press release from Sig (other than some vague details of “somethings coming”, etc.). So asking him twice a month for updates seems a little excessive to me. I’m sure he probably has a decent idea on when they’ll be for sale to the unwashed masses, but he also (again, I assume) likes keeping his job which means not giving out unreleased confidential information to strangers on the internet. I give you guys what I can, when I can. But, it's hard for me to look my employees in the face and tell them the consequences for leaking information, when they can come here and read what I write
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Posted: 3/31/2022 11:10:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I give you guys what I can, when I can. But, it's hard for me to look my employees in the face and tell them the consequences for leaking information, when they can come here and read what I write I totally understand. I guess I just get a little impatient given the current climate we are in and my States politics. Moving is not an option currently. Hopefully it will be in my “Christmas stocking 2022”. lol |
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Posted: 3/31/2022 9:14:14 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I totally understand. I guess I just get a little impatient given the current climate we are in and my States politics. Moving is not an option currently. Hopefully it will be in my “Christmas stocking 2022”. lol And don’t take my post as an insult. I’m looking forward to the release of the Raptor too. |
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Posted: 3/31/2022 10:52:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And don’t take my post as an insult. I’m looking forward to the release of the Raptor too. Not at all |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:07:35 AM EDT
[#37]
Bumps it up
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:16:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With as short and handy as the Raptor is, I think I'm most interested in seeing how well it can be converted to 8.6 Blackout. This guy gets it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 2:51:53 PM EDT
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Hey Coregon, in regards to that civilian Spear we're discussing here, can you ballpark the price for us? $ 7,995.00 is no bueno.
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Posted: 7/1/2022 8:55:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey Coregon, in regards to that civilian Spear we're discussing here, can you ballpark the price for us? $ 7,995.00 is no bueno. $7,995 was the Limited Edition model price - which was the ACTUAL NGSW configuration (sans select fire lower) + the NGSW silencer (only available on this model). I actually argued we could have sold them for more (to the dealers who received) - and it turns out, I was right about that The commercial variant(s) will be in line with their comptetition - SCAR-H, LWRC, etc. But, they wont be as expensive as a SR25. |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 12:59:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $7,995 was the Limited Edition model price - which was the ACTUAL NGSW configuration (sans select fire lower) + the NGSW silencer (only available on this model). I actually argued we could have sold them for more (to the dealers who received) - and it turns out, I was right about that The commercial variant(s) will be in line with their comptetition - SCAR-H, LWRC, etc. But, they wont be as expensive as a SR25. Coregon, Not sure if this information is out or just not released yet but is there a release date? what calibers and barrels lengths etc? |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 6:07:39 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Coregon, Not sure if this information is out or just not released yet but is there a release date? what calibers and barrels lengths etc? It's set internally, but wont publish it until time. The Spear will be in 6.5CM, 308 and 277/6.8. Variants will determine caliber (example - there probably wont be a 6.5CM version of the Raptor, etc). |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 10:30:19 AM EDT
[#43]
Thanks man, that's good info!
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Posted: 7/27/2022 4:53:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's set internally, but wont publish it until time. The Spear will be in 6.5CM, 308 and 277/6.8. Variants will determine caliber (example - there probably wont be a 6.5CM version of the Raptor, etc). Has there been any testing done with an 8” barreled Raptor in 277? Curious about muzzle velocity at that length. Or is it strictly gonna be a 7.62 model? |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 12:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has there been any testing done with an 8” barreled Raptor in 277? Curious about muzzle velocity at that length. Or is it strictly gonna be a 7.62 model? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's set internally, but wont publish it until time. The Spear will be in 6.5CM, 308 and 277/6.8. Variants will determine caliber (example - there probably wont be a 6.5CM version of the Raptor, etc). Has there been any testing done with an 8” barreled Raptor in 277? Curious about muzzle velocity at that length. Or is it strictly gonna be a 7.62 model? Yes. Extensive. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:41:07 PM EDT
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@coregon
Thanks for the reply, have the velocity numbers for the raptor been made public yet? I’d love to read up on what the 277 will do in a shorter barrel, everything I can find is with a much longer barrel. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 5:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @coregon Thanks for the reply, have the velocity numbers for the raptor been made public yet? I’d love to read up on what the 277 will do in a shorter barrel, everything I can find is with a much longer barrel. No, they havent. 8" with hybrid ammo exceeds 16" with standard ammo, in other calibers. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 6:03:07 PM EDT
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Thank you for the response @coregon
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:50:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they havent. 8" with hybrid ammo exceeds 16" with standard ammo, in other calibers. Other calibers, as in other large frame calibers such as 308? Wasn’t sure if you were referring to AR15 or AR10 based calibers. I drew my own conclusions, but didn’t want to assume. Thanks for sharing what you can. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 11:24:46 PM EDT
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Any updates on the Raptor?
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