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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:00:38 PM EDT
I do NOT know how I have been so lucky in scoring grail guns lately.
Was goofing around the local store today with the roomie who was looking for a Ruger Mk IV for a suppressor host....I was just taggin' along to get way from the smell of the roast in the crock pot which was making me hungry. That was either a good...or a bad move....depending on if you ask me..or my wallet. I am talking to one of the assistants about how far Smith and Wesson has tanked into the sewer on everything the seem to do except the M and P and AR line when, over his shoulder...what do I see????? ....a 1954 Winchester M 70.....IN 30-06!!!!! Atop it was the shittiest scope I have ever seen on a gun...well, next to that crappy Hawke on my Diana M52...... I hung my pathetic head and asked to see it. I dropped the bolt and checked that it matched...check the GORGEOUS more...blah blah.... Yeah....it's on layaway as all of my extra cash seemed to have turned into classic Smith and Wesson revolvers as of late.  ( filling in my gaps before they get too pricey )So, here she be...obviously from an alternate dimension!!!! 
I am changing NOTHING...except, the scope and the mounts are coming straight off and going right into the trash when I get it home. No American Winchester of mine is gonna be wearing shit Chinese glass and aluminum. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:08:01 PM EDT
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Needs a Weaver k4
Nice find. |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:43:09 PM EDT
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Needs a Weaver k4 Nice find. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:41:09 AM EDT
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Nice score.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:19:26 AM EDT
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Very nice!
Needs a Bausch & Lomb Balvar scope and mounts. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:45:53 AM EDT
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Very nice! Needs a Bausch & Lomb Balvar scope and mounts. 
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:39:27 AM EDT
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Great find!
I've got a Model 70 in 30 Govt 06 that my late Grandfather bought in the late 40s. I shot my first deer with it and several more afterwards, it's a great shooting rifle. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:48:55 AM EDT
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Great find! I've got a Model 70 in 30 Govt 06 that my late Grandfather bought in the late 40s. I shot my first deer with it and several more afterwards, it's a great shooting rifle. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:47:38 PM EDT
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Very Nice !!
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:10:09 PM EDT
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Very nice, you are of course on track to junk that glass.
My somewhat limited experience makes me suspect that recoil pad has turned hard and will ring your chimes . they just don't seem to hold up for more than 6 or 8 years without turning into a petrified fossil. easy fix |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 11:17:53 PM EDT
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Very nice, you are of course on track to junk that glass. My somewhat limited experience makes me suspect that recoil pad has turned hard and will ring your chimes . they just don't seem to hold up for more than 6 or 8 years without turning into a petrified fossil. easy fix |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 11:27:39 PM EDT
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Nice score op.
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Posted: 6/20/2018 3:23:45 PM EDT
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I've got 1 built in 1943 in gov3006 caliber just a little more wear on mine. Mine has a luepold pioneer 4x scope about the same era still good clear glass, but bad eye relief for me. I inherited mine recently so no attachment other than its a nice gun.
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Posted: 6/20/2018 8:42:29 PM EDT
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I've got 1 built in 1943 in gov3006 caliber just a little more wear on mine. Mine has a luepold pioneer 4x scope about the same era still good clear glass, but bad eye relief for me. I inherited mine recently so no attachment other than its a nice gun. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 7:29:33 AM EDT
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* * * https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/Rotated_-_WEB_SIZE_clean-579236.jpg I am changing NOTHING...except, the scope and the mounts are coming straight off and going right into the trash when I get it home. No American Winchester of mine is gonna be wearing shit Chinese glass and aluminum. God bless you. 
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Posted: 6/21/2018 1:13:53 PM EDT
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Just know that you have one of the best factory hunting rifles ever made. If I am right, your gun can also be fed with stripper clips and should have the stripped clip cutout at the front of the rear receiver ring, right above the bolt. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 7:06:06 PM EDT
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That model 70 looks very nice indeed!
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Posted: 6/22/2018 7:21:28 PM EDT
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Neat. Recently picked up one in 22 Hornet, basically a grail gun.
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Posted: 6/22/2018 10:16:44 PM EDT
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Neat. Recently picked up one in 22 Hornet, basically a grail gun. |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 11:12:11 PM EDT
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Brought her home!
Excuse the monkey paw print on the front of the barrel....that was me . 
As much as the scope and mounts utterly disgust me, the height of the rings and the size of the rear bell of the scope are almost exactly right so I am going to take measurements so that I can buy the right rings, mounts and optic for this. Sadly, the stock was cut for the butt pad many moons ago...which WAS the right thing to do....but I would prefer the original butt plate.....but that would make my LOP too short. This pad is shot....so I think I will get new spacers and a Pachmeyer decelerator pad and re-shoe this old horse. 
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Posted: 6/22/2018 11:48:15 PM EDT
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Very nice, you are of course on track to junk that glass. My somewhat limited experience makes me suspect that recoil pad has turned hard and will ring your chimes . they just don't seem to hold up for more than 6 or 8 years without turning into a petrified fossil. easy fix 
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Posted: 6/23/2018 8:29:22 AM EDT
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And that white line is hideous. 
I kid! I kid. I will likely drop the white and go with the decelerator in brown. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 11:22:27 AM EDT
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Sweet.
I traded a field grade M1 for a Pre-64 M70 featherweight in 30-06 a couple years back. It's in an old Fajen aftermarket stock. Looked like a turd in the shop--big blotches of rust all over, goopy varnish on the stock, and a chinese Tasco on it. The rust turned out to be just varnish that came right off and the stock looks like a million bucks after I refinished it. A friend had an old Redfield 4x with a German post reticle that he donated which I mounted with a Redfield base and rings. Love that thing. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 3:38:30 PM EDT
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Sweet. I traded a field grade M1 for a Pre-64 M70 featherweight in 30-06 a couple years back. It's in an old Fajen aftermarket stock. Looked like a turd in the shop--big blotches of rust all over, goopy varnish on the stock, and a chinese Tasco on it. The rust turned out to be just varnish that came right off and the stock looks like a million bucks after I refinished it. A friend had an old Redfield 4x with a German post reticle that he donated which I mounted with a Redfield base and rings. Love that thing. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 6:32:14 PM EDT
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Got this glassed up and curing..... 
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Posted: 6/23/2018 7:12:15 PM EDT
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She looks gorgeous!
Is the barrel length 26"? |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 7:43:50 PM EDT
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She looks gorgeous!
Is the barrel length 26"? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 6:17:37 PM EDT
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Fantastic and beautiful find. Congrats!
I agree with post(s) above suggesting that it deserves a vintage appropriate for type scope with similar vintage bases and rings. At least a K4 from the 50's or early '60s. They are plentiful and reasonably priced. Also consider an early Leupold from when they were called Vari-X or a vintage Redfield "Widefield". These were hugely popular at the time. Those would be either 2-7x or 3-9x variables. I'm thinking "Redfield Jr. or Sr." (now made by Leupold on the same pattern) bases and rings. The "Jr." is a one piece base that bridges the front to rear receiver, while the "Sr." has separate two piece bases. These are way nicer that Weaver, but I'd use the Weaver, anyway, for authenticity, with a Weaver scope. You can get original Redfield bases and rings. Here is one of several sources: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/929640 I have a weak spot for good field grade vintage hunting rifles and have picked up a few over the years. Lots of such scopes on all sorts of vintage rifles from that era, both centerfire and rimfire. My wife would argue that it is too many. I have only one pre-64 Model 70, though, and wish I could find another in decent shape for a reasonable price. They are getting very hard to find. Be warned, like black guns, vintage rifles tend to multiply. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 6:34:29 PM EDT
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Very nice! Needs a Bausch & Lomb Balvar scope and mounts. 
I'm looking for a pre '64 Featherweight Model 70 in .270, (Jack O'Connor style) but all the ones worth picking up are well outside what I want to spend. I have a Balvar 8 I could put on it. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:05:40 AM EDT
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Beautiful stuff!!!!! Here is what I am thinking of doing ( pic gleaned from internet):
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Posted: 7/13/2018 4:55:52 PM EDT
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Beautiful stuff!!!!! Here is what I am thinking of doing ( pic gleaned from internet): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/gorgeous_M70_JPG-605994.jpg Consider looking for an older scope that the one in the photo, though. I'll bet you can pick up a decent K4 for $50 at a gun show and an older Leupy Vari-X for about $100. The glass is not nearly as bright as today's scopes as lens coatings were not nearly as advanced, but all of mine are still quite usable. None have ever leaked or fogged internally. Not the Weavers, not the Leupys, not the Colorado made Redfields and certainly not the Balvars. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 7:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely! If you do strip the stock, you can steam out most of those scratches and dings before refinishing. Don't you just love that warm glow of a true hand oil finish! Consider looking for an older scope that the one in the photo, though. I'll bet you can pick up a decent K4 for $50 at a gun show and an older Leupy Vari-X for about $100. The glass is not nearly as bright as today's scopes as lens coatings were not nearly as advanced, but all of mine are still quite usable. None have ever leaked or fogged internally. Not the Weavers, not the Leupys, not the Colorado made Redfields and certainly not the Balvars. I am torn on the optics.....I absolutely demand the old school look...but do love modern glass. I may hunt the gun shows and see if I can find something American Made that trips my trigger. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:30:59 PM EDT
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Nice find there!
Educate me, why are the pre-64 Model 70s more sought after? I just picked up a vintage 1967 Remington 700 in 30.06. Vintage hunting rifles are pretty cool! |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 11:52:48 AM EDT
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Nice find there! Educate me, why are the pre-64 Model 70s more sought after? I just picked up a vintage 1967 Remington 700 in 30.06. Vintage hunting rifles are pretty cool! I also have a "transition" model 70 barreled action made in '69, chambered in 7mm Rem mag. That caliber was not available in pre-64. I had it custom stocked. The action is push feed, but cycles just as reliably. It's gorgeous, accurate, powerful and reliable, but lacks the prestige or collector's value of the pre '64 rifles. The Remington 725 I posted above was what the Remington 700 could have been. It was Remington's effort to directly compete with the pre'64 Model 70 Featherweight. It's actually more rare, as they made them for only three years. Cut checkering, better wood. Three position safety (can lift the bolt handle in safe in the mid position, like the Model 70). Higher stock comb for scope use, checkered metal buttplate. It was made only three years, '58-61. As pictured, including scope, rings, base, sling and full magazine it weighs 8.0 pounds. It was the forerunner of what we call "Mountain Rifles" today. In truth, the 725 and the subsequent 700 are stronger actions than the Model 70. The Rem 700 action has gone on to be the basic building block for trued, blueprinted custom action where accuracy is a premium (tactical, sniper, long range etc.), while the Model 70 action (especially pre-64) is considered more elegant for custom builds where beauty is a bit higher priority. I have several Remington 700 rifles. All shoot a bit tighter groups than my Winchester 70s. Maybe not quite as sexy looking. I don't think any one has ever improved on the sheer physical beauty of the pre-64 Model 70, though. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 12:59:20 PM EDT
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725s are amazing rifles.
I consider them one of the best guns ever made in this country. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 2:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure. One thing is that it is a true controlled round feed as opposed to the later push feed. Another was real cut checkering and generally better wood even in field grade. Also, they no longer had the metal buttplate from '64 on and started using less labor intensive stamped steel. I also have a "transition" model 70 barreled action made in '69, chambered in 7mm Rem mag. That caliber was not available in pre-64. I had it custom stocked. The action is push feed, but cycles just as reliably. It's gorgeous, accurate, powerful and reliable, but lacks the prestige or collector's value of the pre '64 rifles. The Remington 725 I posted above was what the Remington 700 could have been. It was Remington's effort to directly compete with the pre'64 Model 70 Featherweight. It's actually more rare, as they made them for only three years. Cut checkering, better wood. Three position safety (can lift the bolt handle in safe in the mid position, like the Model 70). Higher stock comb for scope use, checkered metal buttplate. It was made only three years, '58-61. As pictured, including scope, rings, base, sling and full magazine it weighs 8.0 pounds. It was the forerunner of what we call "Mountain Rifles" today. In truth, the 725 and the subsequent 700 are stronger actions than the Model 70. The Rem 700 action has gone on to be the basic building block for trued, blueprinted custom action where accuracy is a premium (tactical, sniper, long range etc.), while the Model 70 action (especially pre-64) is considered more elegant for custom builds where beauty is a bit higher priority. I have several Remington 700 rifles. All shoot a bit tighter groups than my Winchester 70s. Maybe not quite as sexy looking. I don't think any one has ever improved on the sheer physical beauty of the pre-64 Model 70, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure. One thing is that it is a true controlled round feed as opposed to the later push feed. Another was real cut checkering and generally better wood even in field grade. Also, they no longer had the metal buttplate from '64 on and started using less labor intensive stamped steel. I also have a "transition" model 70 barreled action made in '69, chambered in 7mm Rem mag. That caliber was not available in pre-64. I had it custom stocked. The action is push feed, but cycles just as reliably. It's gorgeous, accurate, powerful and reliable, but lacks the prestige or collector's value of the pre '64 rifles. The Remington 725 I posted above was what the Remington 700 could have been. It was Remington's effort to directly compete with the pre'64 Model 70 Featherweight. It's actually more rare, as they made them for only three years. Cut checkering, better wood. Three position safety (can lift the bolt handle in safe in the mid position, like the Model 70). Higher stock comb for scope use, checkered metal buttplate. It was made only three years, '58-61. As pictured, including scope, rings, base, sling and full magazine it weighs 8.0 pounds. It was the forerunner of what we call "Mountain Rifles" today. In truth, the 725 and the subsequent 700 are stronger actions than the Model 70. The Rem 700 action has gone on to be the basic building block for trued, blueprinted custom action where accuracy is a premium (tactical, sniper, long range etc.), while the Model 70 action (especially pre-64) is considered more elegant for custom builds where beauty is a bit higher priority. I have several Remington 700 rifles. All shoot a bit tighter groups than my Winchester 70s. Maybe not quite as sexy looking. I don't think any one has ever improved on the sheer physical beauty of the pre-64 Model 70, though. Quoted:
Beautiful stuff!!!!! Here is what I am thinking of doing ( pic gleaned from internet): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/gorgeous_M70_JPG-605994.jpg Quoted: I'm not sure. One thing is that it is a true controlled round feed as opposed to the later push feed. Another was real cut checkering and generally better wood even in field grade. Also, they no longer had the metal buttplate from '64 on and started using less labor intensive stamped steel. I also have a "transition" model 70 barreled action made in '69, chambered in 7mm Rem mag. That caliber was not available in pre-64. I had it custom stocked. The action is push feed, but cycles just as reliably. It's gorgeous, accurate, powerful and reliable, but lacks the prestige or collector's value of the pre '64 rifles. The Remington 725 I posted above was what the Remington 700 could have been. It was Remington's effort to directly compete with the pre'64 Model 70 Featherweight. It's actually more rare, as they made them for only three years. Cut checkering, better wood. Three position safety (can lift the bolt handle in safe in the mid position, like the Model 70). Higher stock comb for scope use, checkered metal buttplate. It was made only three years, '58-61. As pictured, including scope, rings, base, sling and full magazine it weighs 8.0 pounds. It was the forerunner of what we call "Mountain Rifles" today. In truth, the 725 and the subsequent 700 are stronger actions than the Model 70. The Rem 700 action has gone on to be the basic building block for trued, blueprinted custom action where accuracy is a premium (tactical, sniper, long range etc.), while the Model 70 action (especially pre-64) is considered more elegant for custom builds where beauty is a bit higher priority. I have several Remington 700 rifles. All shoot a bit tighter groups than my Winchester 70s. Maybe not quite as sexy looking. I don't think any one has ever improved on the sheer physical beauty of the pre-64 Model 70, though. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 7:24:16 PM EDT
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Nice find there! Educate me, why are the pre-64 Model 70s more sought after? I just picked up a vintage 1967 Remington 700 in 30.06. Vintage hunting rifles are pretty cool! A lot of folk kind of act as though the Post 64 Winchester 70 was a bad gun...and that is not so, engineering wise.....BUT....I have always looked at guns from after the Mid 60s as an exercise is "How can we cheapen this gun up?"...not, "How can we make this gun more economically and still turn out an awesome product." Ruger is the SOLE exception to that rule as far as rifles go. The Pre-64 is among the last rifles that were made fairly old school.... They are also dead simple and dead reliable. Now, don't panic about your new old Remington as I am sure it is fine....but the reason I shy away from 700s is that I have TERRIBLE luck with them. Every 700 I have owned has had extraction issues. The most frustrating thing for me is that every Remington 700 I have ever owned has been ridiculously accurate for a stock gun. THAT makes it all the more horrible for me. Anyhow, the Remington 700 extractor is a little bitty c-clip type thing that just begs to break. That being said, they really very rarely do....UNLESS I OWN THE GUN.  The Winchester M70 either uses the Mauser claw extractor....which is near on bulletproof...OR a Savage style extractor which, while small, is mechanically very simple and effective and more than strong enough for almost every situation.For me, the Pre-64 Winchester is the ultimate exercise in simplicity and reliability when speaking operationally. They are not the most accurate rifles on the planet....but they are more than adequate. ...and damn are they smoooth..... Here's how I get a Remington rifle to extract and eject: 
The Sendero, like many magnum Senderos suffered from cartridges being stuck in the chamber after firing. The chamber is just rough enough to cause a problem with extraction. Because this rifle was so damn accurate, we did not want to change the chamber dimensionally so we added a Harris extractor and a leverage point corrected ejector. The lower ejector is dummied out. It has only a minor tension spring that keeps it under control....but it does not function. When you add a Harris extractor, you change the fulcrum point of the leverage against the cartridge. This causes the empties to drop into the action instead of ejecting correctly. The upper ejector changes the leverage input to match the new fulcrum point. THIS allows the gun to eject correctly. What a MASSIVE pain in the ass....but it works and works well. After allll of that pain and suffering.....I have still decided to clean the chamber with a custom hone from Flex Hone....but that's in my other thread. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 10:18:16 PM EDT
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Thanks Desert Moon!
Yeah, I agree the newer 700s are definitely cheapened. My 308 700 needee quite a bit of work done to be a good rifle. It is a 2012 gun. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:09:22 PM EDT
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Awesome find op!
I picked up 1947 vintage Model 70 last fall in .30 gov't 06 as well. It's just no where as pretty as yours. The bluing is well worn, there's bumps and bruises and its wearing a steel Weaver 4x in the tip off Weaver bases. And a steel buttplate in the white. Over the past month I've been stripping it and finally finished it this past week and a half. I'll try to get pics up later. I can't wait to get this thing hunting. 
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:18:31 PM EDT
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Winchester Model 70s with the controlled round push feed action are very good. Probably one of, if not the, best variants, IMO.
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:47:49 PM EDT
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Awesome find op!
I picked up 1947 vintage Model 70 last fall in .30 gov't 06 as well. It's just no where as pretty as yours. The bluing is well worn, there's bumps and bruises and its wearing a steel Weaver 4x in the tip off Weaver bases. And a steel buttplate in the white. Over the past month I've been stripping it and finally finished it this past week and a half. I'll try to get pics up later. I can't wait to get this thing hunting. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:50:10 PM EDT
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Winchester Model 70s with the controlled round push feed action are very good. Probably one of, if not the, best variants, IMO. |
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:52:44 PM EDT
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Will do then!
It's definitely a working man's rifle. Carried much but shot little. With the bullet in the muzzle test it's as tight as my Weatherby Vanguard that's much newer. 
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Posted: 8/5/2018 10:54:09 PM EDT
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Will do then! It's definitely a working man's rifle. Carried much but shot little. With the bullet in the muzzle test it's as tight as my Weatherby Vanguard that's much newer. You know if I stumble upon another, I will go broke to secure it...right?
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Posted: 8/6/2018 8:34:33 PM EDT
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@desertmoon
Before: 
After stripping and several coats of tung oil: 
Notice the deep scars along the left wrist. Looks like someone let his slung rife bang against his pistol's hammer spur. 
The stock was filthy and dark from decades of use and lack of tlc. So l stripped it and refinished it but left all the old bumps and bruises. The checkering is no longer any where close to sharp, the bluing is well gone in many places but l didn't want to erase its long history of life in the field so l did nothing to change that. As it was the wood was so dry l was able to put the first three costs of 50/50 tung oil and mineral spirits on in the first day. Put three more coats of 50/50 on it over the next three days followed by three coats of just tung oil. A true working rifle that lived a long life in the field. What stories it could tell. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 8:37:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/6/2018 9:10:36 PM EDT
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Thanks man.
That's how l feel about it too. Your rifle is beautiful too. But they're different kinds of beauty. A fresh virgin vs. a comfortable lady you've been married to for most of your life, type of thing. When l took it out of the stock the first time none of the screws were buggered and it was filthy under the wood. And at the wood line. I spent a couple days with oil and my thumb nail cleaning that crap off the steel. I don't think the gun had ever been out of the stock once Winchester put it together. The stock was cracked between the mag opening and the trigger opening. I would have to use both thumbs to wriggle the box out of the stock. So l wrapped some 60 grit sandpaper around a 10" file and opened the stock up a bit. I'm thinking that's why it cracked there. Now the mag liner stays in the receiver when you take it out. Drilled three holes vertically along the length of the crack and filled them with JB Weld. That should hold it, l would think. That old beat up 1" imitation 1907 sling is something that's been floating around my spare parts box for years and looks right at home here. I shot out sparingly last winter so l wouldn't damage it more but l shot it enough to find out the tip off system does not return to zero. So I've cranked the hinge screws down tight but think someday I'll look for a vintage one piece Redfield mount and rings.
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:34:57 AM EDT
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Great seeing people enjoying these wonderful rifles - got one virtually identical to Bumblebee's except in 270 - has Weaver K4 center post reticle in tip off mounts that actually do seem to hold the zero very well on my version. My dad bought it new in 1952 right before I was born and gave it to me 14 yrs later. It is a tack driver...………..
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Posted: 8/9/2018 8:15:29 PM EDT
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Great seeing people enjoying these wonderful rifles - got one virtually identical to Bumblebee's except in 270 - has Weaver K4 center post reticle in tip off mounts that actually do seem to hold the zero very well on my version. My dad bought it new in 1952 right before I was born and gave it to me 14 yrs later. It is a tack driver..... Bird |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:42:30 PM EDT
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Great seeing people enjoying these wonderful rifles - got one virtually identical to Bumblebee's except in 270 - has Weaver K4 center post reticle in tip off mounts that actually do seem to hold the zero very well on my version. My dad bought it new in 1952 right before I was born and gave it to me 14 yrs later. It is a tack driver...……….. Bird
I love center post reticles. I have the very same scope on my first .30-06. A sporterized 03A3. |
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