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Link Posted: 5/4/2018 7:41:44 PM EDT
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@Seven-Shooter

Here you go. I need to rearrange some things and add things to the bag but here it is for now. I have some paracord, small med kit, Otis 5.56/9mm field kit, Benchmade fixed blade knife, six Glock 33 round mags, two Glock 19 mags and a box of 9mm ammo. With all that in there, the bag weighs 22lbs with the rifle. The bag is well made and very comfortable to wear.
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Well, I need to buy one, then.  Just gotta scrape up enough coin, and hope they sell them in blue again.
Link Posted: 5/5/2018 1:13:08 PM EDT
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Well, I need to buy one, then.  Just gotta scrape up enough coin, and hope they sell them in blue again.
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Here you go. I need to rearrange some things and add things to the bag but here it is for now. I have some paracord, small med kit, Otis 5.56/9mm field kit, Benchmade fixed blade knife, six Glock 33 round mags, two Glock 19 mags and a box of 9mm ammo. With all that in there, the bag weighs 22lbs with the rifle. The bag is well made and very comfortable to wear.
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Well, I need to buy one, then.  Just gotta scrape up enough coin, and hope they sell them in blue again.
I think I’m going to pick another one up for my 10/22 Takedown. I really like the pack. With the PC Carbine it does feel heavy but the gun isn’t light and six 33 round mags ain’t light either.

I think I got it down to 22 or 21lbs by taking a couple of things out.
Link Posted: 5/6/2018 11:44:00 PM EDT
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Got mine today and stuck my dead air ghost on it. I like the irons and the feel of it overall. Just needs the new magpul riflemans loop sling and a m&p mag well.
Link Posted: 5/6/2018 11:58:55 PM EDT
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I’ll get some pics posted tomorrow hopefully. Staying in the Seattle area tonight and going to hit up the range before school.
Link Posted: 5/7/2018 11:58:56 AM EDT
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I ordered one from Bud's and picked it up a couple of weeks ago.  I took it out once  to sight it in and run some rounds through a chronograph.  I like it.  I shot reloads and factory ammo ranging from 115 to 147 gr., FMJ and JHP.  It was 100% reliable using a Magpul 15rd Glock mags.

I'll probably add a red-dot of some sort, maybe a Sig Romeo 5.  My old eyes don't like open sights any more.
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 11:07:35 AM EDT
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Is TacSol going to make a SB-X barrel for it?
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 11:35:46 AM EDT
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I asked and got a canned response to the effect of “I will pass your ideas along”
Link Posted: 5/10/2018 5:37:08 PM EDT
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Finally bought one from Bud's in TN yesterday.

Stripped it down,cleaned it and lubed with CLP and put the Glock insert in.Very easy to strip down,my receiver was a bit stuck in the stock,took a bit of tugging until it came free of the stock.

Just test fired 100 rounds of WWB 115 grain with 10 round and a 33 round Glock mags with zero problems.Rapid fire,slow fire,runs like a champ

Iron sights are pretty much dead on at 50,75,and 100 yards on steel targets.

Little more recoil than i was expecting,very fun rifle to shoot. Will be adding some sort of cheaper red dot for quicker target acquisition soon along with a comp or brake of some sort

I give it a solid 10/10,Ruger hit a home run with this. Waiting on Magpul to release a stock for this
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 3:23:21 PM EDT
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what optics are y'all running on your PCC?
Link Posted: 5/16/2018 5:25:08 PM EDT
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Vortex Crossfire micro H1 clone.
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 2:37:38 PM EDT
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Mounted right on the rail or on a riser? Hows the sight picture with the iron sights in there?
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 5:27:08 PM EDT
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Mounted right on the rail or on a riser? Hows the sight picture with the iron sights in there?
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Vortex Crossfire micro H1 clone.
Mounted right on the rail or on a riser? Hows the sight picture with the iron sights in there?
Rail. Comes with a low mount direct to rail and is already mounted to the 1/3 riser that is very light yet sturdy for what it is.

I ignore the irons, the way that they are indirect messes with my head but with how my cheek weld is I never notice them anymore.

I needed two clicks left and one down to be zeroed at 25. Advertised 7,000 hours at the mid power setting confirmed by Vortex Sam here on arf.
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 6:51:22 PM EDT
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Don't know why my picture is in the quote, but that oughta help get an idea.
Link Posted: 5/17/2018 7:28:46 PM EDT
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Im trying out a Bushnell TRS-25 mounted right to the rail.

With all the risers i have in my parts box they sit too high,unless a chin weld is used.

Iron sights could be used in a pinch looking through the red dot,but most of the sight picture is blocked with the micro mounted directly to the rail.

Doubt i will use the irons much,so its not really an issue for me at this point
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 5:14:06 AM EDT
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I don't get this gun.  I've been buying .22 all day long for $32 per 1,000.  Why would I want to spend $550 for a pea shooter with a Fudd style stock that shoots $180 per 1,000?
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 5:28:10 AM EDT
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I don't get this gun.  I've been buying .22 all day long for $32 per 1,000.  Why would I want to spend $550 for a pea shooter with a Fudd style stock that shoots $180 per 1,000?
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You know what I don't get? Other people complaining about guns that they have no interest in, yet still try to find a way to bitch about it to those that do.

And there is nothing fudd about that stock. Fudd is a mindset, not an actual material shape or design. And that's the other thing that I just don't understand; why are gun owners out to burn other gun owners because of different likes?

Enough already.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 1:04:35 PM EDT
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I don't care if you want to or not, all that matters is that I want to!
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 3:40:52 PM EDT
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I don't get this gun.  I've been buying .22 all day long for $32 per 1,000.  Why would I want to spend $550 for a pea shooter with a Fudd style stock that shoots $180 per 1,000?
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There are a few reasons to go 9mm over 22 but like everything it just depends on what you want to do with it. I plink with all kinds of expensive stuff like 500 smith and wesson and 50 bmg. Everybody loves cheap plinking but fun can be had in all price ranges.

Competition is one of the main ones. In case you haven't noticed lots of people actually use their guns for more than plinking. USPSA pistol caliber carbine is hugely popular right out of the gate. There are also plenty of local type 2 gun and steel matches that use these guns as well. There are also the people that actually want to use it for defense purposes. 9mm is a much better option if you ever plan to do anything with it other than plink or shoot small critters. 9mm is pretty versatile and with the various loads available can be used for all kinds of cool stuff.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 4:49:46 PM EDT
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Good,more for us that do get it.

I love mine,much more fun than shooting my .22's.Its a solid rifle,that is selling very well for multiple purposes.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 5:00:00 PM EDT
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I don't get this gun.  I've been buying .22 all day long for $32 per 1,000.  Why would I want to spend $550 for a pea shooter with a Fudd style stock that shoots $180 per 1,000?
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For a lot of people, this will be their home defense rifle, in a caliber that has all kinds of defensive ammo.  Most people can shoot a carbine far better than a handgun.  The fact that it uses the same mags as your Glock 9mm, or SR Ruger pistol, gives you an option as to whether you will grab a pistol or the carbine, or both, if you need them for self defense.  For just plinking, I can see your point $ wise.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 10:47:40 PM EDT
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Got my first pistol caliber carbine today! I really hope the ets mags feed.

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Link Posted: 5/19/2018 11:06:17 PM EDT
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Got my first pistol caliber carbine today! I really hope the ets mags feed.

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Congrats,nice set up.

You are going to love it. Little snappy with the big block of steel in the receiver.

Let us know how it does
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 11:32:59 PM EDT
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Got my first pistol caliber carbine today! I really hope the ets mags feed.

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They don't, in my experience.  Hope yours is better.  I replaced my ETS sticks with Magpul, but I still need to get out to the range with it.

No big loss, I think the 21 round mags are the goldilocks size for me.

But I have thought about setting mine up almost identical to yours; let me know how the bushnell holds up.
Link Posted: 5/20/2018 10:53:01 AM EDT
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I don't get the .22 at $32 per 1000 when I can buy one bottle of crossman 6000 bb's for $8.47.  And they are Copperhead and so cool.
Link Posted: 5/20/2018 2:44:51 PM EDT
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As long as you have the new followers they should. If they do not lock back, then you should call ETS.
Link Posted: 5/20/2018 4:46:48 PM EDT
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As long as you have the new followers they should. If they do not lock back, then you should call ETS.
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They lock back and cycle snap caps by hand. Haven't got to shoot it yet though.
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 5:06:59 PM EDT
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I shot my PC today. It shot great and functioned great.

Early on I had a couple stovepipe type failures on the last round out of ETS mags but after that it fed perfectly and I couple not get it to replicate the failure. Probably just breaking in.

Man it was fun to shoot! I haven't been a fan of PCCs all this time but I can see that changing.

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Link Posted: 5/27/2018 6:43:08 PM EDT
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Federal HST out of that barrel with a can is anything but "Fudd," and a whole lot more lethal than a .22.

It shares magazines with my G17's and G19's.

But, hey, I don't get wasting my time caring about what guns other people buy.
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 10:52:39 PM EDT
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@davidb1982, where did you find the Copper Basin in stock?  And did they have any blue ones, or just the black/grey?
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The black/grey is an updated 3rd gen.  I think the blue ones would all be new old-stock if you found one.

I ordered one from Amazon today.
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 11:18:30 PM EDT
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The black/grey is an updated 3rd gen.  I think the blue ones would all be new old-stock if you found one.

I ordered one from Amazon today.
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Awesome information.  Where did you find out that there are different generations of them?  And/or if they're going to offer them in different colors?

There are no blue ones in stock anywhere that I've found
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 8:12:30 AM EDT
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Awesome information.  Where did you find out that there are different generations of them?  And/or if they're going to offer them in different colors?

There are no blue ones in stock anywhere that I've found
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Gen 3 backpack releases
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 10:18:36 PM EDT
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Nice,i like that.

Thanks for the link
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 10:55:14 PM EDT
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Nice,i like that.

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Link Posted: 5/29/2018 10:03:23 AM EDT
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I ran mine yesterday for the first time.

400 rounds of mixed old 115 ball and 147 , and some Fed 124 HP. Factory 15,17 and 33 round mags.
All the ammo/mags feed perfectly.

I put a HoloSun 510c on it , just for something different.
It too worked great with the factory,adjustable QR mount.

Good trigger , accurate and fun to shoot.

I do wish it was lighter.
Link Posted: 5/29/2018 3:41:50 PM EDT
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I like my Sub2k but these are definitely in a whole different class.
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They kind of are , and kind of are not , in the same class.

I wish my PCC was the same weight as my Sub2k.
Link Posted: 5/29/2018 5:16:41 PM EDT
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They kind of are , and kind of are not , in the same class.

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I kind of like how the Ruger PC feels beefed up and tough.

The Sub 2000 feels flimsy to me. Not saying it's a bad firearm but I didn't like how it feels.
Link Posted: 5/29/2018 6:11:53 PM EDT
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I kind of like how the Ruger PC feels beefed up and tough.

The Sub 2000 feels flimsy to me. Not saying it's a bad firearm but I didn't like how it feels.
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They kind of are , and kind of are not , in the same class.

I wish my PCC was the same weight as my Sub2k.
I kind of like how the Ruger PC feels beefed up and tough.

The Sub 2000 feels flimsy to me. Not saying it's a bad firearm but I didn't like how it feels.
Almost everything is nicer on the Ruger. Sights, controls, stocks, trigger, etc.

Two totally different guns in my mind.
Link Posted: 5/29/2018 8:05:46 PM EDT
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The keltec subs I have owned felt like they were going to beat themselves to pieces when firing. Squeeze the grip without a mag in it and it flexes. One if the ones I had looked like it was bent in the middle when in the firing position...shaped like a bananna.
Link Posted: 5/30/2018 11:44:20 PM EDT
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I bought a SPARC AR for mine. will try to get to range this weekend.

The sight seems a bit high. I have a ADE Python pistol red dot coming for another gun that I may try on it as well..

A couple more SR9 mags and I'll be good to go.
Link Posted: 5/31/2018 9:26:38 PM EDT
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I bought a SPARC AR for mine. will try to get to range this weekend.

The sight seems a bit high. I have a ADE Python pistol red dot coming for another gun that I may try on it as well..

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If its on a riser it probably will be too high to get a good cheek weld.

I tried several and just mounted directly to the rail and to keep the red dot as low a profile as possible.

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Link Posted: 5/31/2018 9:48:00 PM EDT
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This carbine has put so much faith in me to like PCC's again, that I went ahead and ordered my Hight Tower Armory Hipoint bullpup kit last night and picked up my first Hipoint 9mm carbine today
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 12:23:49 PM EDT
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Zero'd the Sparc the other night.
Shot well.

Put another 40-50 rounds through it with no gun related issues.
Ammo issues, well that's another story.

I noticed that it ejected spent brass to the 1:00 position and spent aluminum to 3:00.
Also, the brass got dinged at the front, the aluminum was not deformed.

All in all, happy with it.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 1:47:31 PM EDT
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Zero'd the Sparc the other night.
Shot well.

Put another 40-50 rounds through it with no gun related issues.
Ammo issues, well that's another story.

I noticed that it ejected spent brass to the 1:00 position and spent aluminum to 3:00.
Also, the brass got dinged at the front, the aluminum was not deformed.

All in all, happy with it.
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Mine is ejecting brass at 1:00 as well along with the dinged brass.
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 1:48:04 PM EDT
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Took mine to a local steel match last weekend. Ran like a top. Let several people shoot it and all commented that it shot pretty soft. Everyone else save one was shooting AR based 9mm guns.

Now I just need to chop it to 10” and put my comp on there
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 2:37:54 PM EDT
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Picked mine up a couple of weeks ago. Not a ton of rounds through it, but this deserves to be a very popular rifle and I hope both Ruger and the aftermarket are looking at its future potential.

None of these are strictly necessary, but could easily see a market for new and different stocks, magwells, lightweight barrels, caliber change options, rear sight replacements including optics rails and/or new rear sights. There is a ton of potential here.

Link Posted: 6/15/2018 5:41:44 PM EDT
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Zero'd the Sparc the other night.
Shot well.

Put another 40-50 rounds through it with no gun related issues.
Ammo issues, well that's another story.

I noticed that it ejected spent brass to the 1:00 position and spent aluminum to 3:00.
Also, the brass got dinged at the front, the aluminum was not deformed.

All in all, happy with it.
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I've been noticing that too with brass.

Makes me wonder if I should actually use a specific brass headstamp that I won't care to lose either factory or my own loads.

Definitely not a Starline shooter.
Link Posted: 6/16/2018 7:44:19 AM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO with the riser/spacer removed
Link Posted: 6/16/2018 8:51:25 PM EDT
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I hope some good stocks hit the market soon. I don’t like anything about the factory one, and it’s really the only thing that bugs me about this gun.

It feels like a comblock stock, too small, too low, too slick.
Link Posted: 6/16/2018 9:16:20 PM EDT
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Has any company announced accessories for it?
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There was a company linked that made a few things including a external competition style magwell. Can’t temember their name though.
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