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Posted: 2/3/2021 11:23:11 AM EDT
Ordered one of each (polymer versions) earlier this week, but don’t have them in hand. Anybody have either one? I’m looking at the manual and diagram online tying to figure out a couple things:
1. How to remove the sights? Looks like maybe the front has two screws. Have to drift the fiber sight out of the way to get to one of them. But not seeing how to remote the rear. Diagram does show two holes for pins/screws/something, but no pic that shows anything useful. 2. Is the barrel removable? I’m going to get both of them threaded. Not sure if I can send just the barrel, or is it going to have to be a barreled action? Maybe they use the same rear sight on other rifles as well, so pipe in if you know the answer to either question. Thanks! Here’s what I’m seeing in the manual:  
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Posted: 2/3/2021 1:51:52 PM EDT
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Subscribed. Interested in responses. I thought about buying a Gallery to have threaded but wasn’t sure that it could be done without modification of the magazine tube.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 2:59:34 PM EDT
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@Nate19
Are you asking that because the silencer might have too big of an OD to fit without hitting the mag tube? Because I don’t think length will be an issue. I don’t plan on shortening it at all. If nobody else has one to measure, I’ll make sure to align some of the cans I have with the barrel once the rifle shows up and I’ll see what we have to work with. Worst case is thread it and use a 1/2-28 to 1/2-28 extension so that the new shoulder is just past the end of the mag tube. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 4:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Nate19 Are you asking that because the silencer might have too big of an OD to fit without hitting the mag tube? Because I don’t think length will be an issue. I don’t plan on shortening it at all. If nobody else has one to measure, I’ll make sure to align some of the cans I have with the barrel once the rifle shows up and I’ll see what we have to work with. Worst case is thread it and use a 1/2-28 to 1/2-28 extension so that the new shoulder is just past the end of the mag tube. @BigWaylon Yes, I was worried that it might not clear the magazine tube when threaded on. Even if it does, obviously the can will need removed each and every time that you fill the magazine tube. Not a deal breaker but kind of a pain. I hate the look of the threaded Henry .22 because it’s a 24” barrel, but they did that so the magazine tube wouldn’t be an issue for suppressor OD or pulling the rod to reload the magazine tube. Please update this thread as you go. Very interested in these 2 guns you mentioned, especially if they can be suppressed. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 5:35:59 PM EDT
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@BigWaylon
Any updates? |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 5:40:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BigWaylon Any updates? Nope. Rio Bravo was delivered to FFL yesterday. Gallery hasn’t shipped (or at least I haven’t received a shipping email). I’ll wait until both are there before going to pick them up. I’ll definitely post up here once I have them. I did find a guy local that has the RB22 (bolt action version), and he answered my questions about the sights...but doesn’t have the magazine tube to worry about. He did measure the barrel OD and said it was .598” at the muzzle. So I need ~.2” clearance from the end of the tube. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 5:44:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Rio Bravo was delivered to FFL yesterday. Gallery hasn’t shipped (or at least I haven’t received a shipping email). I’ll wait until both are there before going to pick them up. I’ll definitely post up here once I have them. I did find a guy local that has the RB22 (bolt action version), and he answered my questions about the sights...but doesn’t have the magazine tube to worry about. He did measure the barrel OD and said it was .598” at the muzzle. So I need ~.2” clearance from the end of the tube. What can are you trying to use on them? |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 5:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What can are you trying to use on them? I have 3 Spectres, 2 Warlocks, a Sparrow and an Element 2 I can try. ETA: my preference is to use a Spectre on each. But I just measured them and the Warlocks have a slightly smaller diameter at the threaded end. Spectres are next, then the Mask, and the Sparrow is the biggest. |
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Posted: 2/10/2021 8:04:58 AM EDT
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Looks like you will have to disassemble the rear sight to get at the base screws.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 10:39:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like you will have to disassemble the rear sight to get at the base screws. Yep. I got the answer on a local forum for that question: To remove the rear sight, you have to unscrew the elevation screw all the way off. After this is done, the rear sight should hinge upwards, exposing the two Phillips head screws. I don't have the Bravo or Gallery, but I do have the RB22, which has the same sights. Note that there's a spring under the elevation screw, so make sure it doesn't go sproing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 10:39:57 AM EDT
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The Rio Bravo I ordered is sitting at the FFL. The Gallery is on the brown truck out for delivery today. I’ve already set an appt to pick them both up 8-8:30 tomorrow morning. So I ought to at least have an idea about suppressor fitment by sometime tomorrow...and will post it up here.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 10:52:36 AM EDT
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Get the barrel internally threaded, screw in the adaptor/thread extender and no worries regarding the tube interference. I have a browning pistol done that way to avoid moving the front sight, no issues.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 12:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get the barrel internally threaded, screw in the adaptor/thread extender and no worries regarding the tube interference. I have a browning pistol done that way to avoid moving the front sight, no issues. Ok, that’ll be Plan C. 
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:06:26 AM EDT
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Well...crap
 ...and that doesn’t get fixed with either internal or external threads. Now, if things lined up perfectly (which there’s no way I’d have that luck), it would sneak by the scallop on the threaded end:  So, I’ll just have them threaded externally and use a small extension. I may be able to remove the mag tube with the can installed (the o-ring is definitely rubbing), or might just have to loosen/remove the can each time. Oh well. At least it’s 15 rounds (or 20+ if shorts will function). |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:10:07 AM EDT
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The good news is I can lower the rear sight completely and the scopes I bought (with dovetail rings included) fit just right.
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:51:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well...crap https://i.imgur.com/GUvOTzA.jpg ...and that doesn’t get fixed with either internal or external threads. Now, if things lined up perfectly (which there’s no way I’d have that luck), it would sneak by the scallop on the threaded end: https://i.imgur.com/Px13PiO.jpg So, I’ll just have them threaded externally and use a small extension. I may be able to remove the mag tube with the can installed (the o-ring is definitely rubbing), or might just have to loosen/remove the can each time. Oh well. At least it’s 15 rounds (or 20+ if shorts will function).  Not the report that I was hoping for.May still pick up that pump version. How does the “quality” or supposed lack thereof seem? Reasonable for a ~$250-275 rifle? |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 11:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the report that I was hoping for.May still pick up that pump version. How does the “quality” or supposed lack thereof seem? Reasonable for a ~$250-275 rifle? Both of them feel pretty good. Probably run a mag through them in the next week just to make sure they’re not DOA, then work on the thread job. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 1:40:29 PM EDT
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How much play would be in the mag tube if you loosened the barrel band?
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Posted: 2/12/2021 1:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much play would be in the mag tube if you loosened the barrel band? Not much. It actually closes the gap a little when the band is removed. You think I could maybe put a spacer or something in there to force them apart? |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 1:57:21 PM EDT
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Speaking of mag tube...anybody have experience removing it? I took the front sight, barrel band, handguard and receiver cover off...but the mag tube stayed attached. Looking in the manual, I see this:
 Is it as simple as removing the one roll pin that looks like it fits in the groove on top of the mag tube? The outer/top two pins look to be for the barrel, and the middle/lower one for the tube? Any chance once that pin comes out there’s something else holding it in? |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 3:24:04 PM EDT
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I was thinking of pulling them apart just long enough to thread the suppressor on. If possible, then only a flat would need to be filed on the suppressor nut to provide clearance. Only handy if it will remain the host.
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Posted: 2/12/2021 4:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking of pulling them apart just long enough to thread the suppressor on. If possible, then only a flat would need to be filed on the suppressor nut to provide clearance. Only handy if it will remain the host. Hmmm...like grind down whatever one or two fins are in the way... Something I’d consider. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 3:44:56 PM EDT
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Getting closer...
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Posted: 2/15/2021 6:52:47 PM EDT
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@BigWaylon
Just watched a video of a guy shooting the Gallery. Do you seriously have to activate the action lock to pump the gun after every single shot? If that’s the case..  Attached FileI’m out. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 6:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BigWaylon Just watched a video of a guy shooting the Gallery. Do you seriously have to activate the action lock to pump the gun after every single shot? If that’s the case.. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/GZHd6Sp-56.gif I’m out. I saw that one. The guy that actually has a saloon/gallery setup? Where it worked fine with one kind of ammo and had to press it before every cycle with another? I haven’t even shot this one yet. But I’ve watched several other videos and nobody else has had that issue. And I can cycle this one multiple times (unloaded) without every touching the unlock button. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 7:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw that one. The guy that actually has a saloon/gallery setup? Where it worked fine with one kind of ammo and had to press it before every cycle with another? I haven’t even shot this one yet. But I’ve watched several other videos and nobody else has had that issue. And I can cycle this one multiple times (unloaded) without every touching the unlock button. Yes, that guy. Guess I didn’t watch the whole video.  Back to YouTube! Sorry!
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:13:54 PM EDT
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SiCo adapters arrived today. Almost identical OD to the barrel:
 And should be room to thread the barrel with the same length threads as inside the adapter, and still not interfere with the barrel band:  Hoping to drop them off in the morning. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:26:47 PM EDT
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I love that you are going in hard on a $250 rifle.
I am going to be jealous with the final product though. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that you are going in hard on a $250 rifle. I am going to be jealous with the final product though. Well, at least I didn’t go overboard on the optic. ~$40 for a scope/ring combo for each one.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:39:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, at least I didn’t go overboard on the optic. ~$40 for a scope/ring combo for each one. Hahaha. Ok, so it all balances out. What scope/ring combo are you using? |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hahaha. Ok, so it all balances out. What scope/ring combo are you using? I’m giving these a shot...mount directly to the dovetail. 
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:47:34 AM EDT
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Dropped them off today. Ought to have them back by Monday at the latest...
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Posted: 2/22/2021 12:11:45 PM EDT
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Got the barrels back today. No pics of the thread job because he already torqued the adapters down, including green loctite on one. I didn’t measure, but said the adapters are about .003” larger OD. Barrel bands slide over just fine.
 Got both of them reassembled without too many issues. I had a little contact interference still between the inner tube cap & o-ring and the silencer. My original thought over the last week was to see if I could grind a little out of the bottom of the barrel band (it’s more figure 8 shaped, with formed channels for the barrel and tube, as opposed to just an oval around both) and run a shim between the top of the tube and the band. While driving home from picking up the barrels, I’d had a duh-huh moment that was gonna be my first plan of attack. The plug in the end of the brass tube was a larger OD than the inner tube, and was held in by a pin. Why not grind a flat spot in that piece where it’s needs to be oriented when removed and inserted? So I did that...and the o-ring still hit the can. Tried it without the o-ring and had no clearance issues...but obviously the inner tube moved a little in the magazine. So I cut a section of the o-ring out, roughly the length of the flat spot I now had, and super glued the rest of it back to the plastic end.   Ta-da!! Daylight the whole way!!  After thinking it over a little, I think I’m gonna leave the sights off. I order some socket set screws today that should be here tomorrow. Not 100% sure I figured out the thread pitch correctly, but the guy that threaded the barrels told me what he thought they were. Just going to put the set screws in to keep the threads clean. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:37:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Cool! Looks good.
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Posted: 2/24/2021 11:38:13 PM EDT
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Now that BigWaylon has gone through all of this trouble, how much are we betting that Rossi releases factory threaded versions of the Rio Bravo and Gallery in a few month?
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:53:14 AM EDT
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That would be smart, but they still haven't drilled and tapped the R92's for a peep sight so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:48:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that BigWaylon has gone through all of this trouble, how much are we betting that Rossi releases factory threaded versions of the Rio Bravo and Gallery in a few month? I’d thought about that, but they’re gonna have to redesign them first. Can’t imagine they’d ship them out with ground down tube plugs and cut/glued o-rings. And without some type of redesign, a standard 1” rimfire can isn’t going to work. I don’t think it would take much. There’s only one pin holding the magazine in, so it has a little movement. A redesigned barrel band that separates the barrel and tube a little more at the muzzle end would possibly be a quick solution. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:48:59 AM EDT
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First time shooting them was last night, and both worked well. The Gallery (pump) cycled 22 Shorts just fine. Haven’t tried them in the Rio Bravo (lever) yet.
Not twins, but definitely cousins.   
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Posted: 2/25/2021 1:25:40 PM EDT
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I love what you have done to get clearance under your can! It's surprising to me that you can't get a factory pump or lever gun, that allows you to reload with a can on the end of the barrel. A Ruger 96/22 lever would fit the bill nicely, but they are hard to find and pushing a grand, from what I've seen. I would love to see a video of your suppressed pump in action. I have a Rossi 62 pump that I really enjoy shooting; so I'm interested in seeing the performance of the new Rossi gallery pump.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 1:31:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love what you have done to get clearance under your can! It's surprising to me that you can't get a factory pump or lever gun, that allows you to reload with a can on the end of the barrel. A Ruger 96/22 lever would fit the bill nicely, but they are hard to find and pushing a grand, from what I've seen. I would love to see a video of your suppressed pump in action. I have a Rossi 62 pump that I really enjoy shooting; so I'm interested in seeing the performance of the new Rossi gallery pump. Or if they’d make one with a side gate, that would also work. Might try to get a video sometime. If I do, I’ll post it up here. |
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