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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:27:44 PM EST
Anyone have any experience with Remington Golden Saber ammo? I've never seen brass jacketed bullets before.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/889697114
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:30:46 PM EST
Just fine if you can't find HST, Gold Dot, RangerT
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:36:36 PM EST
Well, I've never capped a fool with any, but it is usually what is loaded in my edc.

Mainly due to the phenomenon of HST never being in stock when I have money...

Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:32:29 PM EST
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I carry HST every day.  BUT...  Golden Saber is my buy it cheap (many years ago) and stack it deep ammo.  I think I got just under 500 rounds in both .38 SPL and .45 ACP.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:59:21 PM EST
From what I could gather on the 9mm version several years back, its relatively velocity dependent so in guns with 3.5-4+ inch barrels its gtg but shorter than that you may run into issues.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:48:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 9:46:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
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This, it wouldn't be my first choice but it's better than some of the other stuff out there.  It seems to be a lot more consistent and cleaner than their bulk pack stuff.  I have no experience with it in .40, only .380acp, 9mm and .45acp and I haven't shot any in a couple of years.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 1:18:50 AM EST
Is it still being loaded during the Remington bankruptcy?
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 10:06:45 AM EST
Wish I would have bought a lot more of it a few years ago when I could get it from Target Sports for $15-$16 a box
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 2:14:02 PM EST
I use it, 9MM, 45. No complaint, +P. I think it’s a better choice than generic HP ammo but I’m not a ballistic expert. Good expansion in range tests
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 2:48:40 PM EST
I use Golden Saber in my .45
I have 5 or 6 boxes each of .45, 9mm and .380.   Have a bunch of 9mm Gold Dot I bought really cheap about 2 years ago. Will probably start carrying the Gold Dot eventually.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:11:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 50cal:
I use Golden Saber in my .45
I have 5 or 6 boxes each of .45, 9mm and .380.   Have a bunch of 9mm Gold Dot I bought really cheap about 2 years ago. Will probably start carrying the Gold Dot eventually.
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In my experience, the Golden Saber tends to run very reliably in .45s, especially 1911s, most likely because of the rounded profile.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 12:05:06 PM EST
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In my experience, the Golden Saber tends to run very reliably in .45s, especially 1911s, most likely because of the rounded profile.
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Feeds like hardball in both my 1911's. Zero problems
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 12:42:17 PM EST
The .38 spl +p for short barrels is my preferred carry ammo in a snub. It shoots very accurately out of my Cobra and there isn't a lot of blast so it is easy to put a cylinder into a target relatively quickly. It does well in internet gel tests too
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:03:22 PM EST
Some of it's on DocGKRs list, good enough for me.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:08:57 PM EST
Distant choice below the top tier stuff.  

I've had a no-powder squibs with 9mm 147 Golden Sabre.  That could have sucked a lot, since I don't normally have something to drive stuck bullets out in my pocket.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 5:33:41 PM EST
Many years ago several police departments in the North Texas area used to issue Golden Saber for duty use.  Don’t know if they still do but they never had issues with performance for the OIS it was used in.

I’ve carried 9mm +P Golden Saber for years. Haven’t needed to use it but it’s performed fine at the range when I’ve tested it.

Going to rotate it out for some HST but only because my carry ammo is getting old now and I got a good price on the HST when I was buying.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 5:37:34 PM EST
I had an older 1911 that would choke on a lot of
HP rounds.  Golden saber fed reliably.  I’ve seen videos of core/jacket separation. But they make a bonded round that’s supposed to be better.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 6:21:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 50cal:

Feeds like hardball in both my 1911's. Zero problems
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Originally Posted By 50cal:
Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
In my experience, the Golden Saber tends to run very reliably in .45s, especially 1911s, most likely because of the rounded profile.

Feeds like hardball in both my 1911's. Zero problems

Same reliability in my 1911s.

Knox County (TN) SD issues the same same .40 as pictured for their Glocks. Many shootings over the years, no complaints.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 8:21:39 PM EST
Shoots fine. I’m down to my last 100 rounds. I had half a case that the FBI left at the range on a training day.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 8:32:27 PM EST
I have my Glock 21 loaded with them now. Not my first choice but it’s what I have.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 9:47:22 PM EST
It'll work just fine as long as you put it where it needs to go.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 6:28:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jcarrol:
Is it still being loaded during the Remington bankruptcy?
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The bankruptcy is settled and Vista now owns them and the factories.  IMO, the quality of Remington ammo will only go up.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 6:38:58 PM EST
GS is my preferred 357 mag self defense load.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 6:48:33 PM EST
Golden Saber in .45, it runs great in my 1911's and goes where I want 'em to.  I'm pretty confident they'll ruin somebody's day if they pose a threat.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 7:35:44 PM EST
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The bankruptcy is settled and Vista now owns them and the factories.  IMO, the quality of Remington ammo will only go up.
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Originally Posted By jcarrol:
Is it still being loaded during the Remington bankruptcy?



The bankruptcy is settled and Vista now owns them and the factories.  IMO, the quality of Remington ammo will only go up.



While their premium stuff was generally gtg, we can only hope that what you say applies to the rest of the line as well.  Most of it was pretty mediocre in my experience, especially their bulk pack stuff.  I'd like to see them produce a quality reduced recoil 00; I think I'm down to my last couple of boxes of that stuff.
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 9:14:12 PM EST
GTG.  It was my carry ammo for many years.  If I have my choice, I’ll carry HST.  But I have a lot of Golden Saber in my stash, and if that was all I had to carry I wouldn’t spend any time worrying about it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:20:23 PM EST
I use Golden saber in my HK UMP clone SHTF mags. Packs a punch and the 8 8inch barrel gives it some heft.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 10:10:08 PM EST
Golden sabers are a decent bullet just as long as you don’t have to shoot through barriers, I’ve seen enough tests in person to know they will break apart big time. With that being said I have no problems carrying them when not on the job.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 12:33:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ghostface:
Golden sabers are a decent bullet just as long as you don’t have to shoot through barriers, I’ve seen enough tests in person to know they will break apart big time. With that being said I have no problems carrying them when not on the job.
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The bonded too? All tests we have done show complete opposite of your experience. Vehicle glass, doors, and sheetrock/2x4 walls dont seem to break it up much if at all
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:54:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 2:19:47 AM EST
Tulsa PD issued it with their Glock 22C's. I never heard anything negative about its performance.
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 7:45:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
GS is my preferred 357 mag self defense load.
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yep
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 8:40:19 AM EST
I know a guy that shot someone through the windshield with a 230gr 45acp Golden Saber. The entire jacket stuck in the glass and the lead core then struck the steering wheel, and continued into the bad guy's shoulder. Bad guy would have been DRT if the bullet had held up. I used to tease him about not double tapping. That glass penetrating failure led to several departments in my area dropping Remington Golden Sabers as a duty round. Most around here run Federal HST or Winchester Ranger.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 9:00:31 AM EST
It was our duty load (.45ACP) at my department for a while and worked every time it needed to.

I still carry it, even with Winchester Ranger SXT +P at my disposal.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 9:14:33 AM EST
I carried it for a number of years.. it works well

Technology has continued to improve and HST or Gold Dot would be slightly better

Ultimately where you hit them is far more important than what you hit them with.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 9:19:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Stumps:
I know a guy that shot someone through the windshield with a 230gr 45acp Golden Saber. The entire jacket stuck in the glass and the lead core then struck the steering wheel, and continued into the bad guy's shoulder. Bad guy would have been DRT if the bullet had held up. I used to tease him about not double tapping. That glass penetrating failure led to several departments in my area dropping Remington Golden Sabers as a duty round. Most around here run Federal HST or Winchester Ranger.
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That was the non bonded golden saber I assume?
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