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Posted: 3/18/2018 9:06:49 AM EDT
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If you are having no feeding or chambering problems I see no reason to change. I always use a crimp die at least to straighten the case but your flare must be very slight to non existent.
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Posted: 3/18/2018 10:05:49 AM EDT
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As long as neck tension is fine I can't see the issue.
I would expand slightly, seat without crimping, and crimp in the taper crimp die just enough to close whatever bell you put on the case. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 10:12:28 AM EDT
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If you are having no feeding or chambering problems I see no reason to change. I always use a crimp die at least to straighten the case but your flare must be very slight to non existent. and the bullet is seating fine and the neck tension appears good. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:12:40 AM EDT
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If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.
However, I would check for bullet movement chambering or in the magazine under recoil. You might need a crimp to hold the bullet under those circumstances. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:25:25 AM EDT
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Been down that road.
My Lee .50 Beowulf dies do the same thing, but since I load on a Dillon 550, I have to use a powder drop dies funnel. I set the funnel up to barely flare (almost unnoticeable)- just enough to actuate the powder measure. If you don't taper crimp, the bullets WILL move under recoil and you may have one push deeper into the case on re-chambering, which is gonna cause pressure issues. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 11:40:39 AM EDT
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I'm not expanding at all so there is no flare and the bullet is seating fine and the neck tension appears good. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 12:14:20 PM EDT
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Not shaving the bullet in fact I've had to pull some bullets and they are are not super easy to get out? Maybe the group I will try the crimped. I don't want to cause any pressure issues but I just don't see any movement in the bullets under recoil.
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:43:44 PM EDT
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Not shaving the bullet in fact I've had to pull some bullets and they are are not super easy to get out? Maybe the group I will try the crimped. I don't want to cause any pressure issues but I just don't see any movement in the bullets under recoil. If you are not seeing bullet movement from recoil, I would not crimp. Besides, crimping is not a substitute for neck tension. Crimping is done to remove the belling of the case mouth (and maybe impress into the bullet a thousandth of two to help prevent set back. By itself, crimping will not hold a bullet with inadequate neck tension. In magnum revolvers, a heavy roll crimp into a cannelure is used to prevent bullet movement during firing. |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 8:06:42 PM EDT
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Thank you, I think I'm going to just keep doing what has been working. I really have not seen any type of issue, like I was told don't fix it if it's not broke.
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Posted: 3/18/2018 10:01:20 PM EDT
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if using a progressive press you won't save any time by skipping flaring and crimping, they're free steps. I could see with a single stage press if skipping these steps still makes good ammo then it's worth skipping.
On a progressive if I don't flare the case mouth for straight wall cartriges the bullet will fall off just before seating unless I hold it place all during the upstroke. Usually my hands are occupied with working the press handle and grabbing another projectile so if I have to hold the bullet in place it would slow down my rate of production |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 12:18:00 AM EDT
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if using a progressive press you won't save any time by skipping flaring and crimping, they're free steps. I could see with a single stage press if skipping these steps still makes good ammo then it's worth skipping. On a progressive if I don't flare the case mouth for straight wall cartriges the bullet will fall off just before seating unless I hold it place all during the upstroke. Usually my hands are occupied with working the press handle and grabbing another projectile so if I have to hold the bullet in place it would slow down my rate of production I understand the personal process and production rate arguments but it's not a race. |
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Posted: 3/19/2018 9:42:58 AM EDT
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No I use a single stage press and I don't use the powder drop unit, I hand measure each load and funnel it into the brass.
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