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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:26:44 AM EDT
I have had a license for a number of cycles. Never used it and only kept it when I felt I might get a SBR.
Never bought into that and got busy with CCW. I moved in this cycle, was very busy with life change
and didn’t realize I had not done an address change.
Want to give it up now, never used it to purchase anything in the land of FOID. What do I have to do
to give it up. There’s an empty book because of no activity. Any purchases over the years have been through FFL and my FOID.

Thanks
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 3:53:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LILGUY:
I have had a license for a number of cycles. Never used it and only kept it when I felt I might get a SBR.
Never bought into that and got busy with CCW. I moved in this cycle, was very busy with life change
and didn’t realize I had not done an address change.
Want to give it up now, never used it to purchase anything in the land of FOID. What do I have to do
to give it up. There’s an empty book because of no activity. Any purchases over the years have been through FFL and my FOID.

Thanks
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This may be a silly question, but what kind of license for your cycles?

Driver's license, license plates?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:27:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2020 7:28:10 AM EDT by lvcipriani]
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Originally Posted By sergtjim:

This may be a silly question, but what kind of license for your cycles?

Driver's license, license plates?
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Well, this is the C&R forum, so I figure it's a C&R FFL.

You don't have to do anything under federal law, just throw it away.  The C&R FFL bound book doesn't have to be sent to ATF, even with 1000 entries, just toss it.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:17:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 12:35:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

Well, this is the C&R forum, so I figure it's a C&R FFL.

You don't have to do anything under federal law, just throw it away.  The C&R FFL bound book doesn't have to be sent to ATF, even with 1000 entries, just toss it.
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27 CFR 478.129(e) - https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=a9364ebec44ba755954d34671462e79a&mc=true&node=se27.3.478_1129&rgn=div8

(e) Records of dealers and collectors under the Act. The records prepared by licensed dealers and licensed collectors under the Act of the sale or other disposition of firearms and the corresponding record of receipt of such firearms shall be retained through December 15, 1988, after which records of transactions over 20 years of age may be discarded.

Even if you give up your license, any records prepared while you were a licensed collector regarding the sale or other disposition of firearms must be retained for 20 years.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 12:41:25 PM EDT
When my regular FFL expired, the gov send me a couple letters requesting my bound book.  I didn't make a single sale because of the California regulations fuck fuck, so I had no bound book.

They eventually stopped.  My expired FFL hangs on my safe.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:33:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2020 9:34:59 PM EDT by LILGUY]
Thank you all. I moved from the country with a small police department to a neighborhood with a Sheriff as cleo. With anti gun politics carrying sway in Lake County Illinois I felt giving it up was the prudent thing to do.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:31:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/22/2020 10:32:20 PM EDT by Polarbear31]
"I have had a license for a number of cycles. Never used it and only kept it when I felt I might get a SBR."

How is this affected by an FFL 03?

"With anti gun politics carrying sway in Lake County Illinois I felt giving it up was the prudent thing to do"

And this sounds like losing to me.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:42:42 AM EDT
The only NFA item we can acquire is a short barrel rifle. In Illinois, on top of everything else, one needs a C/R  license to own one.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:45:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LILGUY:
The only NFA item we can acquire is a short barrel rifle. In Illinois, on top of everything else, one needs a C/R  license to own one.
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And out SBRs can’t be <26”. Which kills a lot of choices.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 2:06:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
And out SBRs can’t be <26”. Which kills a lot of choices.
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
Originally Posted By LILGUY:
The only NFA item we can acquire is a short barrel rifle. In Illinois, on top of everything else, one needs a C/R  license to own one.
And out SBRs can’t be <26”. Which kills a lot of choices.
Well that's dumb. Can it be any SBR or does it have to be C&R eligible?
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 5:41:00 PM EDT
It does not need to be a c/r rifle shortened. A MSR that fits the legal description.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 10:07:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pomofo:

27 CFR 478.129(e) - https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=a9364ebec44ba755954d34671462e79a&mc=true&node=se27.3.478_1129&rgn=div8

(e) Records of dealers and collectors under the Act. The records prepared by licensed dealers and licensed collectors under the Act of the sale or other disposition of firearms and the corresponding record of receipt of such firearms shall be retained through December 15, 1988, after which records of transactions over 20 years of age may be discarded.

Even if you give up your license, any records prepared while you were a licensed collector regarding the sale or other disposition of firearms must be retained for 20 years.
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If you are an active licensee, you need to keep your records for 20 years. Once you give up your license, there are no recordkeeping requirements.
Link Posted: 3/9/2020 8:15:49 AM EDT
No, Licensed collectors are not required to turn in records after giving up license.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/are-licensed-collectors-required-turn-their-acquisition-and-disposition-records-atf-if

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