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Posted: 4/15/2018 2:35:44 AM EDT
Can a 01 ffl carry powder and primers in there inventory without an approved separate magazine storage or without a federal explosives license?

Thanks
Link Posted: 4/15/2018 4:26:35 AM EDT
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Don’t know, but I would guess you’d be limited on quantity. NFPA has some info on storage. Can’t recall which section specifically though.  I do remember reading it and being surprised that it says no more than 10k could be stored in a residential structure. Probably broken more times than 992r.
Link Posted: 4/17/2018 9:57:56 PM EDT
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Smokeless powder and primers do not require a storage magazine or an FEL.
Link Posted: 4/17/2018 11:24:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info !
Link Posted: 4/18/2018 11:59:56 AM EDT
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NOT GOOD ADVICE AT ALL!

ONLY YOUR LOCAL FIRE INSPECTOR CAN TELL YOU!
State laws very state to state.
Your insurance carrier may have a thing or two to say!
Link Posted: 4/18/2018 8:09:02 PM EDT
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NOT GOOD ADVICE AT ALL!

ONLY YOUR LOCAL FIRE INSPECTOR CAN TELL YOU!
State laws very state to state.
Your insurance carrier may have a thing or two to say!
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Smokeless powder and primers do not require a storage magazine or an FEL.
NOT GOOD ADVICE AT ALL!

ONLY YOUR LOCAL FIRE INSPECTOR CAN TELL YOU!
State laws very state to state.
Your insurance carrier may have a thing or two to say!
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Federal law/ATF regulations!
And it wasn't advice, but factual!
Link Posted: 4/19/2018 3:14:12 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure he's referring to Federal law/ATF regulations!
And it wasn't advice, but factual!
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Assuming is again not good information!
Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements?
Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it is entitled to the exemption. Smokeless powder designed for use other than in small arms ammunition, and explosive products such as squibs, fireworks, theatrical special effects, or other articles that may contain smokeless powders, are regulated and must be stored pursuant to the regulations at 27 CFR 555, Subpart K – Storage.

It should be noted that persons engaged in the business of importing or manufacturing smokeless powder designed for any use must have a Federal explosives license. Further, importers of smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition must also possess an ATF firearms importers license (Type 08 or 11); must register with ATF under the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act; and must submit (to ATF) and receive an approved ATF Form 6 – part I (5330.3A), Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms Ammunition and Implements of War.

NFPA had guidelines NOT LAWS

BATFE has laws

Local government entities have LAWS!
Case in point MN State Laws

7500.3500 SMOKELESS PROPELLANTS.
Subpart 1. Restricted scope. This part does not apply to the transportation of smokeless propellants governed by Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983).
Subp. 1a. Approved container required. Smokeless propellants must be stored in shipping containers approved by the Department of Transportation in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983).
§Subp. 1b. Transportation of certain quantities. Quantities of smokeless propellants of 25 pounds or less in shipping containers approved by the Department of Transportation in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983), may be transported in a passenger vehicle.
Quantities in excess of 25 pounds but not exceeding 50 pounds that are transported in a passenger vehicle must be in a portable magazine having wooden walls of at least one-inch nominal thickness.

Transportation of quantities in excess of 50 pounds is prohibited in vehicles transporting passengers.

Transportation of quantities in excess of 50 pounds in other than passenger vehicles must comply with Department of Transportation regulations in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983). In addition, warning placards must be prominently displayed when more than 250 pounds are being transported.

Subp. 2. Storage of propellants intended for personal use. Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not to exceed 20 pounds may be stored in residences. Quantities in excess of 20 but not exceeding 50 pounds must be stored in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least one-inch nominal thickness.
Subp. 3. Commercial displays and stocks. Not more than 20 pounds of smokeless propellants, in containers of one-pound maximum capacity, may be displayed in commercial establishments. Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants greater than 20 pounds but not more than 100 pounds must be stored in approved wooden boxes having walls of at least one-inch nominal thickness. Not more than 50 pounds are permitted in any one box.
Commercial stocks in quantities not to exceed 750 pounds must be stored in storage cabinets having wooden walls of at least one-inch nominal thickness. Not more than 400 pounds are permitted in any one cabinet.

Subp. 4. Quantities over 750 pounds. Quantities in excess of 750 pounds must be stored in magazines constructed and located as specified in part 7500.0800.

7500.3600 SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION PRIMERS.
Subpart 1. Restricted scope. This section does not apply to the transportation of small arms ammunition primers governed by Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983).
Subp. 2. Transportation and storage. Small arms ammunition primers must not be transported or stored except in the original shipping container approved by the Department of Transportation in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983).
Subp. 3. Truck or rail transportation. Truck or rail transportation of small arms ammunition primers must comply with the Department of Transportation regulations in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983).
Subp. 4. Quantity limitations. Not more than 25,000 small arms ammunition primers may be transported in a passenger vehicle.
Not more than 10,000 small arms ammunition primers may be stored in residences.

Not more than 10,000 small arms ammunition primers may be displayed in commercial establishments.

§Subp. 5. Separate storage. Small arms ammunition primers must be separated from flammable liquids, flammable solids as classified by the Department of Transportation in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, parts 100 to 199 (1983), and oxidizing materials by a fire-resistive wall of one-hour rating or by a distance of 25 feet.
Subp. 6. Storage of large quantities. Quantities of small arms ammunition primers in excess of 1,000,000 must be stored in magazines in accordance with part 7500.0800.
Link Posted: 4/19/2018 5:40:45 PM EDT
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There was no assumption.

OP did not specify what state. He was given correct info for the details he provided.
Link Posted: 4/19/2018 5:44:41 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure he's referring to Federal law/ATF regulations!
And it wasn't advice, but factual!
Assuming is again not good information!
I think you are the one "assuming".

Is smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition subject to the explosives storage requirements?
Smokeless powders designed for use in small arms ammunition are exempt from regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40 and the regulations in 27 CFR Part 555. Packaging that readily identifies the smokeless powder as being designed for use in small arms ammunition may help in determining whether it is entitled to the exemption. Smokeless powder designed for use other than in small arms ammunition, and explosive products such as squibs, fireworks, theatrical special effects, or other articles that may contain smokeless powders, are regulated and must be stored pursuant to the regulations at 27 CFR 555, Subpart K – Storage.
Which confirms what was posted earlier.

It should be noted that persons engaged in the business of importing or manufacturing smokeless powder designed for any use must have a Federal explosives license. Further, importers of smokeless powder designed for use in small arms ammunition must also possess an ATF firearms importers license (Type 08 or 11); must register with ATF under the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act; and must submit (to ATF) and receive an approved ATF Form 6 – part I (5330.3A), Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms Ammunition and Implements of War.
And AGAIN, the OP is not engaged in either of those activities, but as a DEALER.

NFPA had guidelines NOT LAWS

BATFE has laws
No shit. OP is asking about Federal law and ATF regulations.


Local government entities have LAWS!
Case in point MN State Laws
Again, no shit. But this ain't Minnesota law he's asking about.
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